Player Discussion Tim Stützle - (C) - Part VI

[Cosmix]

When I watch him skate, he gives off Hossa vibes with those short powerful strides, hunched over, to generate separation.

But he plays the game like Spezza.

It's a fun combination.

I also like his defensive play, skating, puck handling, getting back into the D zone, back checking, hitting, etc. He is young and still learning. I see a superstar emerging.

We now need a "best in class" coaching staff, GM, scouts, and development staff to take this team to the next level: consistent playoff team.

 

[aragorn]

He has to get better at protecting the puck & stop taking risks when there is nobody behind him. Make the easy pass & stop trying to do everything himself, use your teammates. Passing the puck gets it down the ice faster than trying to carry it yourself.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

He has to get better at protecting the puck & stop taking risks when there is nobody behind him. Make the easy pass & stop trying to do everything himself, use your teammates. Passing the puck gets it down the ice faster than trying to carry it yourself.

Our team doesn’t present options in the neutral zone. It’s simply not who we play. He absolutely has to be better with the puck in the d zone thin

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[HF2002]

He looks more like Havlat than Hossa. Hossa was physically built differently. Hossa didn't fall down when someone near him sneezed.

Still, impressive company to be in.

Of course, if Yashin didn't sit out as much as he did he would lead this category.

 

[JackieDaytona]

He’ll fall less as he gets older and stronger. He’s still growing into his body. He’s so good at keeping his feet moving and skating through defense, but it means he’ll fall easy until he gets that pro core and base strength. He draws penalties, he falls a lot now. Eventually he’ll get more driving chances and more drawn penalties when he can keep his balance and his ice.

Tkachuk used to be a friggin yard sale up and down the ice, we had the same complaint about him 2+ years ago. Never hear about it anymore. I imagine it’ll be the same with Stü.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

 

[Answer]

Unable to score goals again is a concern now

 

[Dionysus]

Unable to score goals again is a concern now

His line played very well in a nice win. Goals will come, and he is creating chances for himself and others.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

To me, he is playing better positionally and defensively. Even with Bath and Tarasenko, line doesn't look anything close to liability and he's been a big part of it.

Pivotal growth for him. One of the best +/- on the team and it absolutely matches the eye test. The points will always come. We are seeing someone develop in a way that will make him dangerous in the playoffs in all situations.

 

[K1900L]

Unable to score goals again is a concern now

To be honest, I never saw him as some kind of perennial 40+ goal scorer anyway, his shot has always been a quieter part of his game.
This doesn't mean that he doesn't have the ability to score, he certainly has the skill set to beat goalies in multiple ways – similar to how McDavid was capable of scoring 60 goals.
But if you compare him to guys like Stamkos, Matthews, Ovie.. he just isn't a shoot first player, but rather belongs to the Draisaitl, MacKinnon, Kucherov grouping imo (Draisaitl is a little funny, considering that he arguably belongs into the first group – but if you watch him you'll see that he is looking for the pass first as well, making his 50+ goal seasons even more impressive).

 

[Answer]

To be honest, I never saw him as some kind of perennial 40+ goal scorer anyway, his shot has always been a quieter part of his game.
This doesn't mean that he doesn't have the ability to score, he certainly has the skill set to beat goalies in multiple ways – similar to how McDavid was capable of scoring 60 goals.
But if you compare him to guys like Stamkos, Matthews, Ovie.. he just isn't a shoot first player, but rather belongs to the Draisaitl, MacKinnon, Kucherov grouping imo (Draisaitl is a little funny, considering that he arguably belongs into the first group – but if you watch him you'll see that he is looking for the pass first as well, making his 50+ goal seasons even more impressive).

He may not be a pure sniper who likes to shoot the puck but as you mentioned he has the skillset to beat goalies and score goals in many ways and he should be building on his last year and should get that 40 goal mark consistently now.

Just 5 goals this season is way too underwhelming for him

 

[JackieDaytona]

He played a smart defensive game last night and his line pushed the puck nearly every shift. he had a lot to do with strong transition even if he didn’t get on the scoresheet. Unlikely that happens often if he keeps up this level of play, it’s winning hockey.

I expect him to go on a heater in January and bury pucks in bunches. That seems to be his MO the past couple seasons.

 

[NyQuil]

He may not be a pure sniper who likes to shoot the puck but as you mentioned he has the skillset to beat goalies and score goals in many ways and he should be building on his last year and should get that 40 goal mark consistently now.

Just 5 goals this season is way too underwhelming for him

His shooting percentage is at an all-time career low:
20-21: 10.8%
21-22: 12.5%
22-23: 17.1%
23-24: 8.1%

Meanwhile, in shots per game:
20-21: 2.1
21-22: 2.2
22-23: 2.9
23-24: 3.1

He's actually shooting more - so I'm not too concerned as I think those goal numbers will come back up.

If his shooting opportunities were dropping, that's typically where you see players losing their goal scoring touch.

 

[armani]

While Daniel Alfredsson didn't even start his career until 23.

Therefore, Stutzle >> Alfie.

 

[DueDiligence]

Unable to score goals again is a concern now

I know. 24 points in 20 games and being a plus 8 is crap. The Sens need to bring in Dany Heatley as a shooting coach to teach these guys how to hit the back of the net!

 

[Answer]

I know. 24 points in 20 games and being a plus 8 is crap. The Sens need to bring in Dany Heatley as a shooting coach to teach these guys how to hit the back of the net!

That is why you should learn to read what exactly the other posters are saying or talking about exactly, but I guess your head is far up Brady's ass for past 5 years that you forgot how to comprehend things now

 

[Dionysus]

I know. 24 points in 20 games and being a plus 8 is crap. The Sens need to bring in Dany Heatley as a shooting coach to teach these guys how to hit the back of the net!

Heatley next former Sen back in the fold! Senior Advisor of One-timers and being an f'n All-Star.

 

[Answer]

His shooting percentage is at an all-time career low:
20-21: 10.8%
21-22: 12.5%
22-23: 17.1%
23-24: 8.1%

Meanwhile, in shots per game:
20-21: 2.1
21-22: 2.2
22-23: 2.9
23-24: 3.1

He's actually shooting more - so I'm not too concerned as I think those goal numbers will come back up.

If his shooting opportunities were dropping, that's typically where you see players losing their goal scoring touch.

That is the frustrating part with him. He keeps going on those long streaks where he gets/creates all these opportunities but doesn't score. Not something we would like to see from our star player, It has become a yearly trend for him now

 

[Xspyrit]

I know. 24 points in 20 games and being a plus 8 is crap. The Sens need to bring in Dany Heatley as a shooting coach to teach these guys how to hit the back of the net!

Actually someone who would just tell them to not always shoot for top corners would be great

 

[Dionysus]

Actually someone who would just tell them to not always shoot for top corners would be great

Drake as well. I think Timmy will start getting on a roll as the games start giving the team some rhythm.

Goals will come, not too worried. Just needs to keep shooting.

One thing I like this year, his B games are better. Collecting points with regularity, and his overall game is solid.

Last night, he wasn't the focal point, but having him between Drake and Tank has created a new offensive threat.

He can play with Brady and G, but can also lead a line himself and create offense while playing responsibly.

 

[Golden_Jet]

That is the frustrating part with him. He keeps going on those long streaks where he gets/creates all these opportunities but doesn't score. Not something we would like to see from our star player, It has become a yearly trend for him now

Also playing a little injured, as was taking practices off, saw him wincing after certain plays, and they said he was barely taking face offs for 5-6 games.

 

[bert]

To me, he is playing better positionally and defensively. Even with Bath and Tarasenko, line doesn't look anything close to liability and he's been a big part of it.

Pivotal growth for him. One of the best +/- on the team and it absolutely matches the eye test. The points will always come. We are seeing someone develop in a way that will make him dangerous in the playoffs in all situations.

Totally agree, putting those 3 together I am sure is a concern for the coaching staff from a defensive standpoint. However they have been really solid so far and boy oh boy are they dangerous on the rush. I like that Tarasenko and Batherson have the skill to play with Stutzle but also they have some size and physicality to make room for him too. I always thought Tarasenko would be a good fit with Stutzle so happy they finally tried this.

His shooting percentage is at an all-time career low:
20-21: 10.8%
21-22: 12.5%
22-23: 17.1%
23-24: 8.1%

Meanwhile, in shots per game:
20-21: 2.1
21-22: 2.2
22-23: 2.9
23-24: 3.1

He's actually shooting more - so I'm not too concerned as I think those goal numbers will come back up.

If his shooting opportunities were dropping, that's typically where you see players losing their goal scoring touch.

There is absolutely nothing to be concerned about in his play. He is so dangerous and creates so much opportunity and room for his teammates.

 

[DueDiligence]

That is why you should learn to read what exactly the other posters are saying or talking about exactly, but I guess your head is far up Brady's ass for past 5 years that you forgot how to comprehend things now

Hmmmm. Stu just went through a stretch of five games where he took a total of 6 faceoffs and also his shooting percentage is way down. Did you every stop to think his wrist might be hurt? That could certainly affect his goal scoring.
And what has Brady got to do with Timmy's shooting percentage?

 

[bert]

That is why you should learn to read what exactly the other posters are saying or talking about exactly, but I guess your head is far up Brady's ass for past 5 years that you forgot how to comprehend things now

What is going on here man? They win and Stutzle's line drives the play scoring 3 goals and you are complaining about something that is a none issue. Now you are insulting people because they dont agree with your take?