Ticket/Attendance Discussion: The Sequel

jetsmooseice

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That’s fair - I don’t live there so I cannot comment on that.

But a lot of the new immigrant demographics moving to Winnipeg at least, it will take a generation for them to latch on to the game. Those same demographics are big supporters of nhl teams in other markets especially in western Canada

It will happen, but it won't be overnight. I look at my kids' school which is extremely ethnically diverse, lots of immigrant kids and children of immigrants go there. The parents I talk to have zero interest in North American sports as a fan. But some of the kids do - a few of them play hockey, football, etc. and take an interest in the local teams. I'm sure some of them will grow up to be big Jets fans.

But the point is valid, people moving to Winnipeg largely aren't York or University of Ottawa graduates that are lifelong NHL fans. They're coming from the Philippines, Punjab or Pimicikamak and either don't care or don't have the means to buy Jets tickets. Which is fine, they have their own things going on. But their kids might become fans and ticket buyers, some day.
 
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wpg1

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12918 against the Avs, first place team playing a rival, kinda sad

From the looks of early on this season, it appears weekday crowds will be around 13k and weekends will bump that up. Tickets for Dallas tomorrow look almost sold out.

I'm going to assume like last season, attendance will continue to grow around the holidays and into the new year. Silver lining is we are significantly better than this time last year, and it looks like much of the league is below average attendance.
 
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jetsfan15

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From the looks of early on this season, it appears weekday crowds will be around 13k and weekends will bump that up. Tickets for Dallas tomorrow look almost sold out.

I'm going to assume like last season, attendance will continue to grow around the holidays and into the new year. Silver lining is we are significantly better than this time last year, and it looks like much of the league is below average attendance.

Yeah, my hope is it’ll get better during holiday season-onward. I went to a couple jets games this year already, but interestingly the games that I’ll be attending with my more extended group of friends that I often attend games with will be in the new year. We have 5 games lined up in January-March that we bought tickets to. For November, our outing is tomorrow for the football game. I wonder if there are approx 33k Winnipeg sports fans whose sport outing for the month is the football game (otherwise maybe they’d be buying a (or an additional, if already attending jets games) jets ticket for a game this month) but will quickly turn to jets games to fill those 2,000 seats per game once this upcoming weekend is done. Who knows. Based on last season, that is indeed what happened (whether that’s actually related to the Bombers’ playoff game, I don’t know though… just speculating).
 

civic204

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Another huge change from the 3? seasons is that ST members can sell their seats on Ticketmaster below walk up prices. Anyone who wants is walkup ticket is likely buying from a ST member.

As a STM, I can buy discounted seats and flip them on TM and profit. I discovered this by accident when I couldn't attend a game. Does TN discourage this? Do they care? Is it just a perk of being a STM?
 

voyageur

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I've heard from several people that the area around the arena has become much more sketchy in the past few years. I've lived in Calgary since 2022 and I have only been to I think 2 games in Winnipeg since moving here? Both games, I took the bus to the arena and basically needed to walk about 30 feet to the doors so I never noticed this.

Is that a "thing"?
The last game I went to I parked on the North side of the rink, where parking is free, and walked there and walked back. I am a mean enough looking guy that nobody gives me trouble, maybe asks for a smoke. I carriy a hockey puck for protection. I think there are some people who are intimidated by poor or in general native people, because they haven't seen them enough. Me I was talking to people about the game after outside the Quest Inn on the walk back. Just maybe a perception issue.
 

MarkWheeler

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All I can speak for is myself, but I used to watch every game nearly religiously, and got to at least a few games a year. It’s over an hour drive one way, so it’s a decent commitment to go to a game for me.
Now I can hardly force myself to watch a game on TV, and can barely remember the last game I went to.
I think it’s a combination of many things.
Mainly I just can’t get any excitement going no matter how good they’re playing because I’d rather not get attached and get my hopes up for them to just collapse in the playoffs in humiliating fashion like they seem to do so often.
Another part of it is True North as an organization being so tone deaf for so long, doing so little to make it affordable, or even fun to attend a game. It’s painfully obvious even on TV how dull the atmosphere in there was the last few seasons. Then Chipman wants to guilt us into feeling like we’re the reason the team has attendance problems. A large part of me just doesn’t think he is the right person to be running this organization, and that just doesn’t make me keen to support the organization unfortunately.
As much as people want to pretend like it’s not, I know for a fact that going downtown is a huge deterrent for a lot of people. Especially rural people coming in from out of town.
That’s just the way it is to me anyways. I just can’t bring myself to get excited about a team rolling through the regular season when they’ve had one good playoff run in their 13 year history. And more often than not play like garbage in the playoffs. Which is a shame, because I really do want to be excited about them.
 

Scheifele55

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All I can speak for is myself, but I used to watch every game nearly religiously, and got to at least a few games a year. It’s over an hour drive one way, so it’s a decent commitment to go to a game for me.
Now I can hardly force myself to watch a game on TV, and can barely remember the last game I went to.
I think it’s a combination of many things.
Mainly I just can’t get any excitement going no matter how good they’re playing because I’d rather not get attached and get my hopes up for them to just collapse in the playoffs in humiliating fashion like they seem to do so often.
Another part of it is True North as an organization being so tone deaf for so long, doing so little to make it affordable, or even fun to attend a game. It’s painfully obvious even on TV how dull the atmosphere in there was the last few seasons. Then Chipman wants to guilt us into feeling like we’re the reason the team has attendance problems. A large part of me just doesn’t think he is the right person to be running this organization, and that just doesn’t make me keen to support the organization unfortunately.
As much as people want to pretend like it’s not, I know for a fact that going downtown is a huge deterrent for a lot of people. Especially rural people coming in from out of town.
That’s just the way it is to me anyways. I just can’t bring myself to get excited about a team rolling through the regular season when they’ve had one good playoff run in their 13 year history. And more often than not play like garbage in the playoffs. Which is a shame, because I really do want to be excited about them.

I am sorry if this sounds bad, but your message comes off as being nothing but excuses. No team in Canada has won the Stanley Cup for over 30 years, Vancouver, Ottawa, Toronto have droughts over 50 years. It took Chicago Cubs 108 years to win a World Series yet they have loyal fans.

What you have written is honestly the same excuse filled rant that was made 30 years ago when the Winnipeg Jets were about to leave Winnipeg.

"Far distance to travel to St James, don't want to get attached and get my hopes up for them to just collapse in the playoffs in humiliating fashion like they seem to do so often, Winnipeg Enterprises as an organization being so tone deaf, doing so little to make it affordable (yet tickets were as little as $7) Then Shenkarow wants to guilt us into feeling like we're the reason the team has attendance problems. I know for a fact that going to St James is a huge deterrent for a lot of people."
 
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voyageur

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All I can speak for is myself, but I used to watch every game nearly religiously, and got to at least a few games a year. It’s over an hour drive one way, so it’s a decent commitment to go to a game for me.
Now I can hardly force myself to watch a game on TV, and can barely remember the last game I went to.
I think it’s a combination of many things.
Mainly I just can’t get any excitement going no matter how good they’re playing because I’d rather not get attached and get my hopes up for them to just collapse in the playoffs in humiliating fashion like they seem to do so often.
Another part of it is True North as an organization being so tone deaf for so long, doing so little to make it affordable, or even fun to attend a game. It’s painfully obvious even on TV how dull the atmosphere in there was the last few seasons. Then Chipman wants to guilt us into feeling like we’re the reason the team has attendance problems. A large part of me just doesn’t think he is the right person to be running this organization, and that just doesn’t make me keen to support the organization unfortunately.
As much as people want to pretend like it’s not, I know for a fact that going downtown is a huge deterrent for a lot of people. Especially rural people coming in from out of town.
That’s just the way it is to me anyways. I just can’t bring myself to get excited about a team rolling through the regular season when they’ve had one good playoff run in their 13 year history. And more often than not play like garbage in the playoffs. Which is a shame, because I really do want to be excited about them.
I think there is a common fatigue like anything in life these days. It's hard to believe how much energy there was in the building for the like of GST, and some really bad teams that fed off crowd energy.

The first playoff year was nuts in the building. But NHL hockey was still a novelty. Watching the odd superstar in preseason, or catch a couple of Canucks on their way up was different. We were in the big show. Now it's an economic reality that going to game is more expensive than it used to be, unless you pick your weakest, least popular teams. Tier pricing is something every owner profits on. But it's funny that the NHL is tone deaf to what fans see as real rivalries. Everybody passes through,, you see Minny or Chicago the same amount times as San Jose in some years. And Calgary, Edmonton as often as Carolina in others.

The NHL doesn't market its stars enough. I imagine watching Mackinnon play live is quite the show. I haven't seen it yet. When I bought in I always got stuck with St. Louis. I came to hate David Perron.

Covid killed the hockey experience for me. This is my first year back, in 5. I notice that seniors were regular customers at Jets game as the years wore on, and they are probably not in an economic position now to pick up that slack, though having your house paid off definitely puts you in a better economic position.

This team isn't going to be good forever, so it's probably the best time to enjoy it, if you can afford it.
 

ryanshope

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Hey everyone- long time lurker, first time poster. I was a season ticket holder for many years- we got in as a group in the inaugural year. I estimate I have spent probably upwards of 65K over the last (is it 12 or 13 seasons now?) including a lot of money for playoff games. I no longer go to games and I echo a lot of the reasons as stated here for my own departure. The nail in the coffin, unfortunately for me, was two factors: 1) the game experience relative to the cost and 2) the marketing/account reps. So, when the pandemic hit, one of our shareholders lost their job. I couldn't afford our season tickets myself- we were in section 123 for many years and then moved to 107. When I plead my case to TNSE, they basically threatened legal action even though we had asked to defer for one year and then we would resume our season ticket agreement. So, that last year, we moved from 107 to the cheapest seats we would find in 321 and I barely went to any games. I couldn't resell them and basically gave them away. What was really frustrating that last season was that people were getting tickets for half the price we were paying for season tickets and we had no perks aside from the lousy discounts on concessions.

Last year I went to 3 games- the first playoff game because my Mom really wanted to attend a playoff whiteout and I went as a guest for the other two. I now work two jobs because the cost of living has sky-rocketed and I see clients on Tuesday and Thursday evenings- mostly when a lot of Jets games are at home. I'm going to be honest- it will take a lot to win me back. I found TNSE completely tone deaf to what people were going through during the pandemic (I'm in health care myself) and the very thought of legal action left a VERY sour taste in my mouth. I will say, I have somewhat switched my priorities towards the Bombers and have season tickets with them now and am opting to go to the Bomber game tomorrow even though I had an offer to go to the Jets game as well. Attendance does seem to pick up once the Bomber season is over, but right now, I much prefer a Bomber game to a Jets game.
 

MarkWheeler

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Hey everyone- long time lurker, first time poster. I was a season ticket holder for many years- we got in as a group in the inaugural year. I estimate I have spent probably upwards of 65K over the last (is it 12 or 13 seasons now?) including a lot of money for playoff games. I no longer go to games and I echo a lot of the reasons as stated here for my own departure. The nail in the coffin, unfortunately for me, was two factors: 1) the game experience relative to the cost and 2) the marketing/account reps. So, when the pandemic hit, one of our shareholders lost their job. I couldn't afford our season tickets myself- we were in section 123 for many years and then moved to 107. When I plead my case to TNSE, they basically threatened legal action even though we had asked to defer for one year and then we would resume our season ticket agreement. So, that last year, we moved from 107 to the cheapest seats we would find in 321 and I barely went to any games. I couldn't resell them and basically gave them away. What was really frustrating that last season was that people were getting tickets for half the price we were paying for season tickets and we had no perks aside from the lousy discounts on concessions.

Last year I went to 3 games- the first playoff game because my Mom really wanted to attend a playoff whiteout and I went as a guest for the other two. I now work two jobs because the cost of living has sky-rocketed and I see clients on Tuesday and Thursday evenings- mostly when a lot of Jets games are at home. I'm going to be honest- it will take a lot to win me back. I found TNSE completely tone deaf to what people were going through during the pandemic (I'm in health care myself) and the very thought of legal action left a VERY sour taste in my mouth. I will say, I have somewhat switched my priorities towards the Bombers and have season tickets with them now and am opting to go to the Bomber game tomorrow even though I had an offer to go to the Jets game as well. Attendance does seem to pick up once the Bomber season is over, but right now, I much prefer a Bomber game to a Jets game.
Same.
 

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