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How did he die?
Did you get a good cry in yet?
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How did he die?
Did you get a good cry in yet?
HugeInTheShire
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He had a cold for a few days, that devolved into pneumonia and with his breathing difficulties he couldn’t recover and yes I’ve cried a lot over the last few days but I’m getting through it
That's tough, something seemingly so harmless that can spiral. I'm assuming he was older?
Good to cry it out though. Someone on this board, maybe in this thread, was talking about that recently, and something I very much agree, especially when someone close passes away.
HugeInTheShire
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Yes he was 81 years old, so we kinda knew we weren’t going to get another 20 years or anything but it happened so quickly, and that was a massive surprise. I’m all cried out now but it was beneficial for sure
Yeah, it's always better to let that stuff out than to keep it bottled up. I bottled up my grief too much when my mom passed and it all hit me later.
Jack Be Quick
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Given your nationality I'm going with John Martin. But Lykke Li and Robyn are acceptable answers as well.
But seriously, I'd argue no male from Washington who was performing in the 90's was/is a great singer. It was called grunge for more reasons than ripped jeans.
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I'd say Chris Cornell had the best voice out of all those guys, but Eddie Vedder's is good too. It's certainly a close one between those two. That's if we're talking the best singing voice though.
I don't mind Layne Staley, but I actually liked Jerry Cantrell's voice better, but some of the songs that he does lead vocals on happen to be some of their worst songs.
The worst thing about Layne Staley is how many really terrible radio rock bands from the 00's (and I'm sure there were even a few by the late 90's) had a singer that sounded way too much like they were trying to be Layne Staley. It's probably because his voice (to me at least) is the easiest to mimic.
Though I do remember that stupid tool (not the band Tool) from around 99-00 taking a lot of heat for sounding like Eddie Vedder. The ''Can you take me high enough'' guy. I think it's Creed? Showing my age here, but I didn't listen to any of that shit like Creed or those radio rock bands. I only even caught the beginning of the grunge stuff, because I think I had already almost completely moved into Punk by 15 years old. A lot of the guys from those bands came from the Punk scene. Even the Red Hot Chili Peppers early on, a lot of the Guns N Roses guys.
Soundgarden was a pretty good band though and had some releases on SST records (which they probably get no royalties on because Greg Ginn is a f***, but at least they get plenty of royalties from their major label stuff) that were pretty good. I was still listening to Soundgarden until Black Hole Sun and Spoonman. They lost me with those two, but that album had a few good songs on it.
I really loved Nirvana, but they were starting to lose me by In Utero. I was more drawn to them just because they sounded like a Punk band and they kind of were early on and it's still there a lot on Nevermind and Dave Grohl even came from the DC Hardcore scene before arriving in Nirvana. That said, I'm not gonna sit here and argue that Kurt Cobain was a great singer like Cornell and Vedder.
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Yet, six months after the shorter and supposedly punchier name of Czechia was officially adopted by the country’s leaders, citizens of the central European country of 10 million people seem in little doubt over what it should be called.
“The Czech Republic,” answered one person after another on being asked to name their country, some greeting the question with disbelieving stares.
“It’s a little confusing. Nobody calls it Czechia, I don’t know why,” said Lukas Hasik, 40, a software engineer hurrying through Wenceslas Square to an appearance by the Dalai Lama, who was visiting Prague. “People are used to the name Czech Republic by now and I would say we should stick with it.”
“It’s the Czech Republic,” agreed Zdenek Cech, 30, a medical student at Charles University in Prague. “I would like a shorter name but Czechia doesn’t sound nice. It sounds too small, or like some dialect.”
In April, Czech leaders, most prominently the president, Milos Zeman, who was the idea’s leading champion, announced that Czechia would supplant Czech Republic as the country’s everyday common moniker - in the same way most other nations are known by names that omit their official constitutional status.
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The trouble is, Czechia is not catching on. Czech authorities continue to use the term Czech Republic on official correspondence and English-language websites, including Zeman’s presidential site.
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Disagreements over what to call the nation date back at least to 1992, when the former Czechoslovakia divided in a so-called velvet divorce to form two independent states, Czech Republic and Slovakia.
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The name Bohemia was rejected because it explicitly excluded Moravia and Czech Silesia in the east of the country. Czechia was initially rejected for similar reasons, since it was derived from the name of the sixth-century Slavonic tribe that had settled Bohemia and was later adopted as the alternative Latin name for the province. Some also said it was too ugly, or that it sounded like the Russian republic of Chechnya.
Now it is back, angering some who think it misrepresents the country’s image and earning the mockery of others, who dismiss it as a joke.
“I like the name Czech Republic because it sounds non-racial,” said Jana Stejskalova, an obstetrician gynaecologist originally from Moravia. “Czechia sounds too eastern. It’s not a good sound for a western country.”
Eliska Cmejrkova, a Czech language teacher to Prague’s large foreign expatriate community, said calling the country Czechia could be justified historically but would be unlikely to stick.
“Czechia makes some sense historically but the common people will call it the Czech Republic,” she said. “You cannot change a language by law; it’s like a living organism. Only linguists and nationalists care about this. When I talk about Czechia with my friends, we make fun of it and never use it.”
'Nobody calls it Czechia': Czech Republic's new name fails to catch on
Yet, six months after the shorter and supposedly punchier name of Czechia was officially adopted by the country’s leaders, citizens of the central European country of 10 million people seem in little doubt over what it should be called.
“The Czech Republic,” answered one person after another on being asked to name their country, some greeting the question with disbelieving stares.
“It’s a little confusing. Nobody calls it Czechia, I don’t know why,” said Lukas Hasik, 40, a software engineer hurrying through Wenceslas Square to an appearance by the Dalai Lama, who was visiting Prague. “People are used to the name Czech Republic by now and I would say we should stick with it.”
“It’s the Czech Republic,” agreed Zdenek Cech, 30, a medical student at Charles University in Prague. “I would like a shorter name but Czechia doesn’t sound nice. It sounds too small, or like some dialect.”
In April, Czech leaders, most prominently the president, Milos Zeman, who was the idea’s leading champion, announced that Czechia would supplant Czech Republic as the country’s everyday common moniker - in the same way most other nations are known by names that omit their official constitutional status.
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The trouble is, Czechia is not catching on. Czech authorities continue to use the term Czech Republic on official correspondence and English-language websites, including Zeman’s presidential site.
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Disagreements over what to call the nation date back at least to 1992, when the former Czechoslovakia divided in a so-called velvet divorce to form two independent states, Czech Republic and Slovakia.
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The name Bohemia was rejected because it explicitly excluded Moravia and Czech Silesia in the east of the country. Czechia was initially rejected for similar reasons, since it was derived from the name of the sixth-century Slavonic tribe that had settled Bohemia and was later adopted as the alternative Latin name for the province. Some also said it was too ugly, or that it sounded like the Russian republic of Chechnya.
Now it is back, angering some who think it misrepresents the country’s image and earning the mockery of others, who dismiss it as a joke.
“I like the name Czech Republic because it sounds non-racial,” said Jana Stejskalova, an obstetrician gynaecologist originally from Moravia. “Czechia sounds too eastern. It’s not a good sound for a western country.”
Eliska Cmejrkova, a Czech language teacher to Prague’s large foreign expatriate community, said calling the country Czechia could be justified historically but would be unlikely to stick.
“Czechia makes some sense historically but the common people will call it the Czech Republic,” she said. “You cannot change a language by law; it’s like a living organism. Only linguists and nationalists care about this. When I talk about Czechia with my friends, we make fun of it and never use it.”
'Nobody calls it Czechia': Czech Republic's new name fails to catch on
Nirvana has gotten awful lot of mileage out of a relatively modest catalogue of widespread material.
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It would have been interesting to see where they had gone and how many more huge albums they had, but I tend to think they would have probably flamed out by about 2000 or so, just like STP, AIC, Pearl Jam (still around but have they really had a blockbuster album in 20 years? Or even 25 years?) Soundgarden (think they were broken up altogether by like 97 or 98) and a few others.
They might have even still been playing today (or off and on, a few breakups and reunions, etc), but the Foo Fighters probably don't take off like they did, if they ever happen at all.
Outside of Soundgarden (because their lead singer/only singer is not living) all of the bands I mentioned are still either together or have gotten back together after a breakup, including STP on singer #3 and #2 was already there a few years before #1 died and then he died. And Alice In Chains is also still around (I think? They at least were and got back together) with a new singer. Jerry Cantrell was a singer and did lead vocals on some songs, but not really the lead singer. I know this band doesn't really fit in with those bands, Jane's Addiction even got back together a few times and has made a couple albums.
But are any of these bands really relevant for ANYTHING that's come out in the last 25 years? I would bet the post-Layne Staley Alice In Chains hasn't even maintained long term airplay. Maybe when the albums were just released, but don't quote me. I don't listen to the radio unless someone else has it on.
STP is another one. Pearl Jam is still riding off of the 90's hits, particularly the early and mid 90's at that.
Pearl Jam perhaps even moreso. Really one great album, then a couple OK albums and then a bunch of albums you've never heard of.
Different genre but Guns and Roses were really a one album(+patience) band as well.
I think all of Nirvana's 3 albums were really good. I thought Incesticide was really good. I thought their unplugged was the best of the MTV unplugged's and a couple of those covers added completely new material to their library.
And perhaps they get some extra credit for having a short run. They didn't hang around long enough to create some completely unnoteworthy music like Pearl Jam has, but imo they put together 5 different releases which were top shelf.
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Wasn't it two albums (not including that one of them was a double album) for GNR? Appetite and the double album + the EP with Patience, Used to love her. GNR is actually one band that I was thinking probably had a couple more albums in them (in their prime, like between 93-97, not in the 00's or god forbid today) and seemed to implode when they were still pretty close to the top of the world. And they didn't even have a member death that ended them. So they're very much like Nirvana in that sense.
Jane's Addiction is another (I was really into them around 8th/9th grade, still into them a bit), but they didn't get nearly as big. They wound up releasing I think two more albums years and years later.
I think Patience is a really good song, though I can't say I know the rest of the album.
But Use Your Illusion I'll argue is not a truly notable album. I think the only reason it gets any play is because it was following in the wake of Appetite for Destruction, which is an all time great. Again different genre but I think Appetite is probably better than anything from the grunge scene bands.
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I agree with you. I don't think it's a good album (Use your illusion's 1 and 2), but I do think it still has it's fair share of songs that you still hear by them and produced quite a few hits, unlike Pearl Jam's albums after about 94-95. When I say hits, I'm talking of critical acclaim, not what I personally think are hits are good songs.
I feel like November Rain is probably a top-5 most played/well-known song of theirs.
And November Rain would rank right at the bottom of Appetite if I had to rank it.
I thought Use your Illusion was a complete dud.
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Jack Be Quick
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I was having a discussion with a coworker the other day and we agreed on the fact that if we could select one musical talent to adopt it would be singing. She's pretty way ahead in the game for that industry I might add.
I can easily do a Vedder or Layne impression. Cornell isn't worth trying, not to sully the dead or anything.
Cobain however isn't easy. Not that he had a particularly great voice, just unique.
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Sadly, I can actually sing Country (I don't listen to the shit at all, by the way) better than anything, it's kind of funny. I feel like I can impersonate Alan Jackson better than any other singer in the world.
And while I don't mind his music (mostly because a close loved one really loves him and it brings back fond memories, so he's okay, I dig him) he's certainly not someone I listen to on my own and he's certainly the last person you'd expect me to be able sing like or even attempt to sing like.
As far mimicking Cobain goes, I think Scott Weiland did a pretty fine job on Creep!
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That sucks. I got something going on with my sinuses a little bit.
While I'm the last person to be worried about catching covid, every time I start to have an allergy or sinus problem I automatically start freaking out about it being covid.
I'm pretty sure I had it back in January (like right before NHL season started last year) because I had a contact with someone who wound up testing positive for it and the test was probably before that, but the results didn't come back for yet. I started feeling shitty the next day, had a bad cough for probably weeks (my coughs always linger for weeks and I'm really sensitive when I start coughing. If something goes down the wrong pipe, I'll be coughing on and off for 2 or 3 hours. It's a good thing I don't smoke anything) and chills for maybe two nights and generally feeling shitty for 4-5 days and that was it. I never tested (why should I have? I didn't think it was even worth leaving the house to go out into public and get people sick) for it, but I stayed home from work for a week or maybe even 10 days just to be safe. Honestly, whatever I caught in February-ish of 2019 was much worse and it lasted a little longer and that cough didn't go away hardly at all for 3-4 weeks. And then I got strep throat in the Spring of 2018 after visiting someone in a nursing home quite a bit.
I've found I don't get colds much since I moved to Florida 10 years ago. Just a stuffy nose here or there or some sinus/allergy issues like what I kind of feel like right now.
I think I probably didn't get a cold at all from 2011 (I had something around June of 2011 my last few months living in Jersey) until the Spring of 2018 strep throat I mentioned. Then whatever in 2019 (my then girlfriend and her son were living with me then and didn't even get whatever I had then) and the probable covid in January of 2021. The 2019 one was very random, as the strep throat was obviously from the nursing home which is crawling with all kinds of germs and my buddy got it too from visiting. I only knew it was strep throat because he went to the doctors and had the same symptoms as me. I didn’t go, so I assumed we had the same thing.
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