This is a bad hockey team

[duhmetreE]

I'll just leave this here...

 

[mas0764]

It sure is right now

 

[EdJovanovski]

I'll just leave this here...

Too bald and round, reminds me too much of Gallant. Next

 

[TriFF51]

Damn....they actually are kinda bad. Beaten by Georgiev, shutout by the Isles, dominated late by San Jose.

 

[bbny]

Too bald and round, reminds me too much of Gallant. Next

Kravtsov player coach. Just for you.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Kravtsov player coach. Just for you.

He actually studied to be a hockey coach, he took college courses on it or something lol

 

[RangersFan1994]

Last year fluke year.

 

[DanielBrassard]

It's early and I don't think they've played as bad as their record, but I also don't think they are all that good. I keep hearing about how talented this team is and I don't get it. Where is the overwhelming amount of skill? I think the Rangers team from 2019 was more skilled than the team they have now. Tired of hearing about their skill.

 

[BKGooner]

Too early for talkathon?

 

[irishlaxburger2]

It's early and I don't think they've played as bad as their record, but I also don't think they are all that good. I keep hearing about how talented this team is and I don't get it. Where is the overwhelming amount of skill? I think the Rangers team from 2019 was more skilled than the team they have now. Tired of hearing about their skill.

We wanted to get tougher, and all we got was slower. It worked out fine’ish short term, but long term may be a problem…especially as our skill gets older and slower.

 

[duhmetreE]

We're poorly coached or we just have the absolute worst combo of players.

Way too many mistakes and breakdowns.

Not sharp. Poor puck movement or movement in general. Poor transition. No structure to fall on.

We desperately need a X's and O's infusion with some structure and Gallant is not that guy. Maybe one of his assistants can but at this point, it's what we're getting.

 

[hockeyplayer999]

Can’t score but another solid performance from our backup making 1.5 million a year. Should of signed another for cloakroom the price. Doesn’t matter who is the backup if they are gonna lose only. We could of kept motte if we didn’t sign Halek for that price

We wanted to get tougher, and all we got was slower. It worked out fine’ish short term, but long term may be a problem…especially as our skill gets older and slower.

We are not tougher though. That is the problem.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Can’t score but another solid performance from our backup making 1.5 million a year. Should of signed another for cloakroom the price. Doesn’t matter who is the backup if they are gonna lose only. We could of kept motte if we didn’t sign Halek for that price


We are not tougher though. That is the problem.

Of course we’re not tougher. The players who drive our bus are all very soft players. Super skilled, sure. But soft.

Panarin, Mika, Fox, etc aren’t creating a culture of toughness. They’re the ones that set the standard. And our standard is try to score super pretty cross-ice goals. If that doesn’t work, we’re cooked.

 

[DanielBrassard]

We wanted to get tougher, and all we got was slower. It worked out fine’ish short term, but long term may be a problem…especially as our skill gets older and slower.

Slower and less skilled. Which isn't a huge surprise given the lack of progression from 3 top 10 picks at forward plus trading one of the better RW's in the game for a 4th liner.

 

[DanielBrassard]

We're poorly coached or we just have the absolute worst combo of players.

Way too many mistakes and breakdowns.

Not sharp. Poor puck movement or movement in general. Poor transition. No structure to fall on.

We desperately need a X's and O's infusion with some structure and Gallant is not that guy. Maybe one of his assistants can but at this point, it's what we're getting.

It's a very simplistic brand of hockey. Sort of reminds me of Tortorella in that everything is about just moving the puck up ice as quickly as possible, put pucks in areas and skate into them, force plays up the walls, don't use the middle of the ice on breakouts. Except for when Panarin is on the ice and he swings back to take pucks up ice himself.

In the offensive zone it's get pucks to the point and throw them to the net. you don't see a lot of high rotations or guys poppinf into soft areas between the hash marks off of a cycle play. It's either throw a seam pass across ice or back to the point and shoot.

 

[Zynbanejad]

Was looking for this thread

 

[TheBloodyNine]

We're poorly coached or we just have the absolute worst combo of players.

Way too many mistakes and breakdowns.

Not sharp. Poor puck movement or movement in general. Poor transition. No structure to fall on.

We desperately need a X's and O's infusion with some structure and Gallant is not that guy. Maybe one of his assistants can but at this point, it's what we're getting.

The best move the Rangers could have made this season would have been to hire an associate coach who was good at this stuff.

 

[Cmox]

Lose honor for Connor.

 

[bleedblue94]

Poorly coached or we just have the absolute worst combo of players.

Way too many mistakes and breakdowns.

Not sharp. Poor puck movement or movement in general. Poor transition. No structure to fall on.

We desperately need a X's and O's infusion with some structure and Gallant is not that guy. Maybe one of his assistants can but at this point, it's what we're getting.

I think that falls on Kelly. Head coaches are not the x and o guys anymore. That's the assistant coaches in most situations.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Look on the bright side, right now Rangers would have the 13th and 27th pick in the 2023 draft

 

[RangersFan1994]

Of course we’re not tougher. The players who drive our bus are all very soft players. Super skilled, sure. But soft.

Panarin, Mika, Fox, etc aren’t creating a culture of toughness. They’re the ones that set the standard. And our standard is try to score super pretty cross-ice goals. If that doesn’t work, we’re cooked.

Imagine if we had guys like Schenn, Landeskog, Tkachuk, Marchand guys with an edge and skill,, etc Rangers always get the big guys that are not as physical as they should with their size and try the pretty play. That style of game needs to change along with the type of players. Why cant the Rangers draft their own Landeskog. He is the type of forward this team needs. Power forward leader with grit and make other players better. One of the best forwards in the League. I cant wait for Othmann, Sykora and Grubbe on this team. Cuylle just gives me Boyd Kane Dane Byers vibes. He was a ghost in preseason could have been more aggressive and more effective,

 

[egelband]

I’m pretty confident that this is a very good team getting its bearings and facing some bad puck luck.
And I’m very confident that’s the approach GG is taking.
Let’s not panic.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Imagine if we had guys like Schenn, Landeskog, Tkachuk, Marchand guys with an edge and skill,, etc Rangers always get the big guys that are not as physical as they should with their size and try the pretty play. That style of game needs to change along with the type of players. Why cant the Rangers draft their own Landeskog. He is the type of forward this team needs. Power forward leader with grit and make other players better. One of the best forwards in the League. I cant wait for Othmann, Sykora and Grubbe on this team. Cuylle just gives me Boyd Kane Dane Byers vibes. He was a ghost in preseason could have been more aggressive and more effective,

Laf was that player in juniors. But for whatever reason every single forward we draft plays with a complete lack of assertiveness once they reach the big club. It’s almost as if they’re scared to make a mistake vs playing their natural style of play.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

One side note about last year's team. Andrew Copp and Frank Vatrano were incredibly underrated pieces, and Braun wasn't outstanding, but could be trusted defensively which fixed a major weakness in the team that is now back.

Copp gave us one more depth player capable of scoring that we sorely lack right now. Vatrano gave us a guy in the bottom 6 who could really shoot the puck and didn't hurt you in any meaningful way. These guys were good for offense at 5-on5.

Carpenter is brutal, and I'd much rather have seen Rydahl with the big club.

-6D has been a very weak point between Jones and Hajek.
-Schneider has taken a step back from the preseason. I don't see any confidence with the puck anymore, nor the ability to make those key passes. I still see the upside with him, but he's got to start playing better. Healthy scratch wouldn't be a bad idea to wake him up perhaps, but the problem is you wouldn't want Jones and Hajek both in the lineup.

This year, the powerplay really glossed over a lot of their weaknesses, which we saw in their wins in Games 2 and 3 this season. Now that it's not scoring, it's apparent. Why? Teams have quickly figured out to stick close to Zibanejad, and that's shut the PP down. Where's the net front pass to Kreider? Where's the Zibanejad pass from behind the net for a tap-in goal? Where's the Fox one timer from the point? Where's the "Panarin's obviously going to pass, so the other team lets him walk up the right side of the ice and beat the goalie clean from the faceoff dot"?

Without the ability to pivot to those plays, the powerplay becomes one dimensional and easy to defend. Which is why it hasn't been scoring. And, coincidentally, neither has the team.

That's not a bad thing - it can be fixed. Look at the better powerplays in the league. Washington and Tampa both structure their PP the same way. Ovechkin/Stamkos one timer from the top of the circle is their bread and butter. But Tampa has built a great PP by having options. They can run the same play weakside to Kucherov. Hedman can shoot from the point. They can go for the netmouth scramble and the dirty Killorn goal. If a team decides to cover Stamkos tight, they pivot to something else. This Rangers team needs to show it can make the same kind of adjustments.

Also, 2nd unit. Should absolutely be Trouba and Schneider on the points. Schneider > KAM with the man advantage.

 

[duhmetreE]

It's a very simplistic brand of hockey. Sort of reminds me of Tortorella in that everything is about just moving the puck up ice as quickly as possible, put pucks in areas and skate into them, force plays up the walls, don't use the middle of the ice on breakouts. Except for when Panarin is on the ice and he swings back to take pucks up ice himself.

In the offensive zone it's get pucks to the point and throw them to the net. you don't see a lot of high rotations or guys poppinf into soft areas between the hash marks off of a cycle play. It's either throw a seam pass across ice or back to the point and shoot.

It's simple but without the simplest aspect... puck support. It really does look like 5 individuals playing some times. Especially at even strength.

Low to High is great but we need traffic in the middle. Not just standing stationary in front of the goalie but cutting through and attacking the middle.

We are so easy to defend and it's infuriating to watch the same thing over and over and over again

I think that falls on Kelly. Head coaches are not the x and o guys anymore. That's the assistant coaches in most situations.

Is he a X's and O's guy>? sure doesn't seem like it.