Things to watch out for during the Habs 2024 campaign / aka All Encompassing Bored Off-season Thread

[Mrb1p]

Him looking bad/not producing as a rookie doesn't mean the plan failed and was a mistake though. Taking an extreme example that isn't going to happen, let's say Slaf puts up 100 points next season, wouldn't that prove that the plan was right because he would have blown past every expectation of his from the draft so they must have done something right, no?

At the end of the day in 4-5 years if Slaf is doing/playing better then his draft expectations which realistically was probably something like 70 point winger then we can probably say the plan worked out well, if he's doing less then that then we can point fingers and say the plan was a mistake.

He can still have success without this plan being a success, he could have a 100% wrong development path and still triumph. He can also not have success with everything going to plan.

The plan is to give him the most tools to succeed and nobody can look at me straight and say that to be completely outmatched and not have the puck on his stick, not know whats happening 99% of the time, getting drilled left and right and just generally not expressing his skillset was actually good for his development. The pro excuse doesnt fly either as many leagues have pros and many leagues offer incredible infrastructure.

Its okay to admit youre wrong and Id hope pros like HuGo put their ego aside and do so.

 

[HuGort]

Monty I be watching most

 

[Sorinth]

The plan is to give him the most tools to succeed and nobody can look at me straight and say that to be completely outmatched and not have the puck on his stick, not know whats happening 99% of the time, getting drilled left and right and just generally not expressing his skillset

I will look at you straight and say none of that is true.

 

[Mrb1p]

I will look at you straight and say none of that is true.

Then youre not being true to what you see. Its fine to admit that not all is perfect.

Its also not admitting that its all doom and gloom.

Monty I be watching most

Me too, I actually believe in him. Theres something about his calmness and big pads that seems talented to me.

 

[Sorinth]

Then youre not being true to what you see. Its fine to admit that not all is perfect.

Its also not admitting that its all doom and gloom.

Or they are gross exaggerations and you are the one not being true to what you see.

 

[ZUKI]

Lol its as if they dont want to admit they made a mistake.

Everything went as planned of course! They planned for the season ending injury, the total amount of points being the worst ever for a 1st overall, the piss poor play and the like 10 shots in 40 games he took. Get out if here with that bull.

first, an injury could happen to any player in any league, it has nothing to do with a mistake. secondly what is that " worst total of points ever for a first overall " ? many first overalls don't even play in the NHL, some of them are dmen and you are telling us that they put more points than Slaf at 18 teen ? And to be fare you shouldn't compare the total of points from players that have never played on the smaller NHL's ice vs those who have always .
as you said, get out of here with that bull.

It have been said from day one that Slaf was a project picked for what he will be after few years, not for the day one. Fans should put things in a perspective instead of being jammed on the stats sheets. They must see the grey zones instead of always seeing all in black or all in white.How can someone be negative at that point ?

 

[PaulD]

What are some of the things we should look out for next season, in order to consider it a success?

Here is my suggested list:

- Evaluating how strong the current roster is when healthy? Is it at the level of a bubble team as suggested by that brief experiment last year?
- Can Suzuki, Cauldield, Dach, Barron, and Guhle be consistent over a full season?
- Can Slafkovsky rise to the level of effective middle-six forward?
- How will Roy, Kidney, Mailloux, Trudeau, Mysak, Heineken, Farrel, Mesar, etc do in Laval?
- How will Reinbacher, Engstrom, Huston, Beck do in their respective leagues?
- Can Hughes extract some top-64 picks at the deadline?
- How will the Habs do in the lottery?
- Can MSL fix the power play?

This thread is not intended to ask if the Habs are on the right path, but rather what would be the indicators demonstrating that they are on the right path?

Watch out for the NHL standings board......one of these seasons management will put them back up in the room.

 

[austin316]

Totally out of the blue, but how do we start a campaign to change our goal song to Sami Zayn’s WWE intro song? The Bell Centre would be epic after a huge goal and having the crowd sing along to that song.

It’s perfect and made for a goal song. And the fact that he’s from Montreal is even better!

 

[Mrb1p]

Or they are gross exaggerations and you are the one not being true to what you see.

I am. He was bad, theres no way around it. He got visibly worse with time. I think before his injury he was on two months straight without recording a point.

What did Slaf learn that he couldnt learn in a lower level? The sacred "pace"? The AHL is just as fast, if not faster system wise. What it takes to be a "pro"? Couldnt he learn that in the AHL? In SHL? In Liiga? Wait, couldnt he learn that in his d+2? Why is it important?

Its just baseless, the only concrete evidence we have is of his play on the ice and the fact he didnt progress much, if at all.

first, an injury could happen to any player in any league, it has nothing to do with a mistake. secondly what is that " worst total of points ever for a first overall " ? many first overalls don't even play in the NHL, some of them are dmen and you are telling us that they put more points than Slaf at 18 teen ? And to be fare you shouldn't compare the total of points from players that have never played on the smaller NHL's ice vs those who have always .
as you said, get out of here with that bull.

It have been said from day one that Slaf was a project picked for what he will be after few years, not for the day one. Fans should put things in a perspective instead of being jammed on the stats sheets. They must see the grey zones instead of always seeing all in black or all in white.How can someone be negative at that point ?

Yes an injury could happen everywhere. It probably happens less often when youre not overmatched both physically and mentally though, even if that may not be the reason for his injury.

If hes not the worst D+1 first overall ever hes god damn near close.

Point totals are useless in the long run, true. Theyre not in assessing the year he just had.

Youre 100% right he was a project, so why did he need to start in the NHL?

Accepting that this year was bad for his development but doesnt ruin him as a player is the grey zone lmao, youre in La La Land somewhere where everything is fine and dandy and it all went according to plan.

It did not, you can stop trying to convice me I see it right before my eyes.

 

[Beer and Chips]

If Slafkovsky is in the top six only Newhook is left to fill it, unless of course they do something stupid and put Monahan up there. It's still a bag of shite with players slotted where they don't belong but at least Drouin and Hoffman are gone replaced by younger guys so we'll see what happens.