Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

[Tripod]

Hey guys, it's much easier to fix Special Teams

21/22 last in PP
22/23 last in PP
23/24 last in PP
24/25 28th in PP

Why are the Flyers not fixing it? Or is 32nd to 28th considered fixing it now?

 

[Curufinwe]

And the only reason the PP is better this year is because of Michkov. Zero improvement from the coaching side of things.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Hey guys, it's much easier to fix Special Teams

21/22 last in PP
22/23 last in PP
23/24 last in PP
24/25 28th in PP

Why are the Flyers not fixing it? Or is 32nd to 28th considered fixing it now?

Again… I still think we need to give Rocky an extra 5 years on the job to be doubly sure.

 

[ybnvs]

Trust the Process!

When you're rebuilding (3rd youngest team, not a tank but definitely a rebuild) playing well is more important than winning games through luck or a hot goalie.

If your young players develop and can go nose to nose with the best teams, it's much easier to tweak the roster, fix STs and find a goalie than fill 8-10 holes b/c you only have a half dozen players who are NHL caliber.

Psh... trust issue are a bitch.

I see a lot of good in this roster, but what worries me while I sit in my comfy desk chair is the fear of continuing on being mired in mediocrity. I want to go to live games again, but I won't support what's been happening the last few years. I do not think there is any vision with Briere at the helm, nor does it seem to me he operates as an independent man as GM capable of making decisions on his own. I don't want him to have a tight Hextallian grip and be a control freak, but it seems clear to me he has no thumb on the team. He's the smallest of the triumphant Triumverate.

I want Torts to open it up and stop playing to protect our bad goaltenders. Force action. Inaction is bad.

I do think within the next year there will be fireworks, whether we like it or not.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

ASF piggybacking off Friedman & pushing the Flyers acquiring John Gibson.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

A playoff team?!?

Great success. Much praise.

The ceiling is the roof.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

ASF piggybacking off Friedman & pushing the Flyers acquiring John Gibson.

Someone more injury prone than Ersson...

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Ersson is made of glass. Gibson is made of wet saltine crackers

 

[Curufinwe]

Ellis, Kolosov, the Oiler's 1st and Anaheim's 2nd for Gibby.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Someone more injury prone than Ersson...

Deady and That fool ever been seen together ?

Finkle/Einhorn ?

 

[scumpup]

Flyers are tanking without the benefits of tanking... theyre titanic-ing.

 

[trostol]

They aren't tanking..hell they aren't even rebuilding

 

[volnoir]

Ellis, Kolosov, the Oiler's 1st and Anaheim's 2nd for Gibby.

Only if they also include Cutter. Wouldn't that be a fun reunion!

 

[Beef Invictus]

Trust the Process!

When you're rebuilding (3rd youngest team, not a tank but definitely a rebuild) playing well is more important than winning games through luck or a hot goalie.

If your young players develop and can go nose to nose with the best teams, it's much easier to tweak the roster, fix STs and find a goalie than fill 8-10 holes b/c you only have a half dozen players who are NHL caliber.

The same process they've been following since 2013? Nah. Don't think that needs trust anymore.

 

[ponder719]

ASF piggybacking off Friedman & pushing the Flyers acquiring John Gibson.

I can think of few things I clamor less for than ASF's takes on how to help the Flyers sneak into the playoffs.

 

[Flyer lurker]

I can think of few things I clamor less for than ASF's takes on how to help the Flyers sneak into the playoffs.

These idiots are going to keep Risto and Laughton and trade for Gibson or Vanacek. That kind of thinking is all Hexy's fault clearly and not the 40 years of mis-management.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

These idiots are going to keep Risto and Laughton and trade for Gibson or Vanacek. That kind of thinking is all Hexy's fault clearly and not the 40 years of mis-management.

If you squint hard enough "Gibson or Vanacek" looks like "Giroux and Voracek" and, f*** it, let's do that.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Danny Briere said earlier today that he has no plans of trading Rasmus Ristolainen.Well, Risto scored the game winner tonight, and makes Danny B look good (via Jamie b)

 

[JojoTheWhale]

If you squint hard enough "Gibson or Vanacek" looks like "Giroux and Voracek" and, f*** it, let's do that.

Sign Jost as a UFA and you've done it.

 

[deadhead]

Danny Briere said earlier today that he has no plans of trading Rasmus Ristolainen.Well, Risto scored the game winner tonight, and makes Danny B look good (via Jamie b)

That's not quite what he said. He said Risto and Laughton weren't rentals, so he's not looking to trade them, but he's been taking calls. He also said they're still focused on the future.

Which means he's open to a good offer but since they're not rentals he has no reason to accept low ball offers.

To me it's weighing what they can bring this season (how close they are to the POs at the TDL) against whether they'd be more or less valuable in June. So if you're offered more than you'd expect to get in June, move them, if not, no hurry.

 

[trostol]

we've heard it before...face it Briere just isn't it

 

[flyersnorth]

That's not quite what he said. He said Risto and Laughton weren't rentals, so he's not looking to trade them, but he's been taking calls. He also said they're still focused on the future.

Which means he's open to a good offer but since they're not rentals he has no reason to accept low ball offers.

To me it's weighing what they can bring this season (how close they are to the POs at the TDL) against whether they'd be more or less valuable in June. So if you're offered more than you'd expect to get in June, move them, if not, no hurry.

I don't even think that is true.

He's likely open to exceptional offers - an overpay relative to the general market value. But he has said multiple times Laughton is more valuable to this organization than a collection of market value assets. He needs an overpay. Good won't cut it.

Risto, on the other hand, I think is more feasible. He could be this year's Walker deadline trade.

 

[ybnvs]

That's not quite what he said. He said Risto and Laughton weren't rentals, so he's not looking to trade them, but he's been taking calls. He also said they're still focused on the future.

Which means he's open to a good offer but since they're not rentals he has no reason to accept low ball offers.

No. Read what he said.

“I don’t know yet. There’s been teams that have called to inquire. But Ristolainen has been so good for us too, and he’s not a rental,” Briere said at his midseason press conference on Tuesday. “For us, there’s no rush to trade him. We finally have him healthy. We finally have him playing extremely well. To find a right-shot defenseman like that; to play in your top four, to play as physical as he does, they’re tough to find. We have him here for us. We get excited thinking about trading him and what kind of return we could get, but I’m not shopping him. I’m not trying to get rid of him."



I'm not shopping him. Im not trying to get rid of him.

It is Laughton all over again. Unless it's a massive overpayment (which no GM will do) Risto stays.

Reeks of incompetence and lack of vision, to me.

 

[VladDrag]

No. Read what he said.

“I don’t know yet. There’s been teams that have called to inquire. But Ristolainen has been so good for us too, and he’s not a rental,” Briere said at his midseason press conference on Tuesday. “For us, there’s no rush to trade him. We finally have him healthy. We finally have him playing extremely well. To find a right-shot defenseman like that; to play in your top four, to play as physical as he does, they’re tough to find. We have him here for us. We get excited thinking about trading him and what kind of return we could get, but I’m not shopping him. I’m not trying to get rid of him."



I'm not shopping him. Im not trying to get rid of him.

It is Laughton all over again. Unless it's a massive overpayment (which no GM will do) Risto stays.

Reeks of incompetence and lack of vision, to me.

I'm not saying you're wrong, here, but I genuinely wonder how much is a GM speaking to other GMs out there vs their real thoughts. We've seen it with Laughton over the last few years, it's pretty clear they want to keep him around and NEED an overpayment for Laughton...But with Risto, I'm not 100% sure.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I'm not saying you're wrong, here, but I genuinely wonder how much is a GM speaking to other GMs out there vs their real thoughts. We've seen it with Laughton over the last few years, it's pretty clear they want to keep him around and NEED an overpayment for Laughton...But with Risto, I'm not 100% sure.

The thing with Briere, he hasn't exactly shown that he's capable of GM speak. He's been pretty upfront about everything he's done dating back to when he was the assistant to the regional manager and he decided to talk openly about their draft plan to the media right before the draft.