Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

[Fight4yourRight]

A 1st and ???

Chariot got a 1st and 4th, Savard got a 1st, 3rd & 4th. Big physical RHDs, Risto is a couple years younger than they were when they were traded as rentals. Flyers would be willing to take 2026 and 2027 picks.

Risto has two more years at $5M, Flyers might take a contract back for the right sweetener, but with the cap rising, some team may want two years of control at that price.

An Edmonton first is basically a second, so IMO you’d need to start at multiple picks and a prospect.

I think it'll end up being more than people expect, if it happens. Probably a 1 and something else smaller, with cap ballast coming back, something cheaper and shorter term than Risto himself.

A hypothetical deal with Edmonton, for example, I could see us agreeing to trade Risto for your #1 in 2026 (or 27, if that's better for the Oilers), a mid-tier prospect (I don't know your prospect pool well enough to know who counts as that level, and who would be insulting to ask for) and anyone you'd want to offload to balance the money up to Risto's full salary but no more. We could probably also include other pieces from our side to get to that point, I think getting a #1 back will be very important for Brière, and he won't move Risto unless he can spin the value as a coup, whether there are poison plls in there or not.

That’s a pretty bad return. Wouldn’t be surprised if we saw that with Briere. He’ll get bent over.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Oiler fan coming in peace(as much as any foregn fan can be)

What is the expected asking price for Rasmus Ristolainen, if the flyers do decide to trade him? Not that I think he will be traded but the talking head are talking like he is under consideration

It would be disservice to McDrai if they bring in someone as inept as Ristolainen. Plus Fisto has his streak of most nhl games played without making it to playoffs once to consider.

 

[Jumptheshark]

It would be disservice to McDrai if they bring in someone as inept as Ristolainen. Plus Fisto has his streak of most nhl games played without making it to playoffs once to consider.

Have u heard of jeff Skinner? He has played like 15 years in the nhl and no playoffs

 

[Audible Velvet]

That brain dead turnover by Risto at the blue line last night? That’s the ol’ mutt I have to come to know and rely on. Anyone catch whether Torts made it a point to criticize publicly?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

That brain dead turnover by Risto at the blue line last night? That’s the ol’ mutt I have to come to know and rely on. Anyone catch whether Torts made it a point to criticize publicly?

he prolly blame Frost somehow

 

[Strawberry Fields]

It's tough to answer because there's a massive discrepancy between what we think Risto is worth versus what actual NHL front offices think.

 

[Danko]

That brain dead turnover by Risto at the blue line last night? That’s the ol’ mutt I have to come to know and rely on. Anyone catch whether Torts made it a point to criticize publicly?

I never thought I'd say this, but Risto''s been fine to me.

 

[deadhead]

It's tough to answer because there's a massive discrepancy between what we think Risto is worth versus what actual NHL front offices think.

Risto is the scapegoat for CF's folly. He's improved substantially, but gets no credit here.

One of the weird things about Risto is his career GAR and WAR are substantially positive, but his xGAR and xWAR are substantially negative. Single season divergence is normal, but over a ten year career?

As a Flyer, they're both positive, but WAR 2.5, xWAR 1.4, GAR 15.5, xGAR 9.1.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Risto is the scapegoat for CF's folly. He's improved substantially, but gets no credit here.

One of the weird things about Risto is his career GAR and WAR are substantially positive, but his xGAR and xWAR are substantially negative. Single season divergence is normal, but over a ten year career?

As a Flyer, they're both positive, but WAR 2.5, xWAR 1.4, GAR 15.5, xGAR 9.1.

So Fletcher has made mistakes?

 

[Audible Velvet]

I never thought I'd say this, but Risto''s been fine to me.

I just cherry picked a glaring example of something that gets others piled on, but overlooked for golden boys. Haven’t really watched enough to give the guy a fair reevaluation. Ultimately, it’s the mistake that keeps on giving.

 

[Curufinwe]

Oiler fan coming in peace(as much as any foregn fan can be)

What is the expected asking price for Rasmus Ristolainen, if the flyers do decide to trade him? Not that I think he will be traded but the talking head are talking like he is under consideration

Will the Oilers need max retention?

 

[ponder719]

So Fletcher has made mistakes?

No, only one.

Unfortunately for us, that one was "believing he was a competent GM."

 

[deadhead]

Here's a good example why few trades will be made before March 1:

"The Stars still haven’t put Tyler Seguin on long-term injured reserve, wanting to wait as long as possible to accrue more cap space. But when they do park his $9.85 million cap hit, they’ll be one of the more dangerous Cup contenders to monitor ahead of the March 7 trade deadline. They are making their calls right now, but the plan is to be patient and wait until after the 4 Nations event to decide where to act. The idea is to see if more injuries change their needs."

NHL rumblings: Flames not selling on Andersson, Stars can be big-time buyers, Oilers D, Caps goalies, more

Teams have called the Flames about Andersson, and the answer to each team has been the same: There's no interest in trading him.

www.nytimes.com

 

[GKJ]

Greg Wyshsynski had a stat that the Flyers are third in the league in shot differential in the inner slot, aided by suppression. Highlights that the defense is good but the goaltending is maybe worse than we know.

 

[freakydallas13]

Greg Wyshsynski had a stat that the Flyers are third in the league in shot differential in the inner slot, aided by suppression. Highlights that the defense is good but the goaltending is maybe worse than we know.

Fedotov looks like he is coming around, but Kolosov has been straight garbage. They need to send him down to the AHL yesterday and let him get reps in.

 

[VladDrag]

Greg Wyshsynski had a stat that the Flyers are third in the league in shot differential in the inner slot, aided by suppression. Highlights that the defense is good but the goaltending is maybe worse than we know.

If it's shot's as in shots on goals, and not corsi attempts, then I think the shot differential can also be attributed to blocked shots. Flyers block more % of shot attempts than any other team in the last 10 years.

 

[deadhead]

Greg Wyshsynski had a stat that the Flyers are third in the league in shot differential in the inner slot, aided by suppression. Highlights that the defense is good but the goaltending is maybe worse than we know.

Since they have the highest rate of GA - xGA in the NHL, it's as bad as we thought.

Though Ersson has shown flashes the last few games, and Fedotov looks like he's finally figuring out the NHL.
I'd let Kolosov go back to Belarus if he doesn't want to play at LHV, stash him there for a couple years.
Bjarnason comes over next season and Zavragin in 2027.

 

[renberg]

Here's a good example why few trades will be made before March 1:

"The Stars still haven’t put Tyler Seguin on long-term injured reserve, wanting to wait as long as possible to accrue more cap space. But when they do park his $9.85 million cap hit, they’ll be one of the more dangerous Cup contenders to monitor ahead of the March 7 trade deadline. They are making their calls right now, but the plan is to be patient and wait until after the 4 Nations event to decide where to act. The idea is to see if more injuries change their needs."

NHL rumblings: Flames not selling on Andersson, Stars can be big-time buyers, Oilers D, Caps goalies, more

Teams have called the Flames about Andersson, and the answer to each team has been the same: There's no interest in trading him.

www.nytimes.com

Accruing cap space for moves is fine. However so is being proactive and having the player that you want. The sooner that you can get your guy(s) and blend them into the locker room and style of play the better. Getting a player before the 4 Nations would be smart. It's a week worth of practices to break them in to the new club.
This break in period is not inconsequential. Some guys never really get enough time to fit and make their presence felt with their new club. I'm sure we can all think of examples where a player was brought in to a different club and never had an impact.

 

[deadhead]

Accruing cap space for moves is fine. However so is being proactive and having the player that you want. The sooner that you can get your guy(s) and blend them into the locker room and style of play the better. Getting a player before the 4 Nations would be smart. It's a week worth of practices to break them in to the new club.
This break in period is not inconsequential. Some guys never really get enough time to fit and make their presence felt with their new club. I'm sure we can all think of examples where a player was brought in to a different club and never had an impact.

It would be, but it's rarely done. 90% of trades occur within a week of the TDL, most the 2-3 days before up to the deadline.

I'm sure Briere is having a lot of discussions, finding out who has legitimate interest, but it's doubtful anyone pulls the trigger until after Four Nations.

GMs won't say this, but good teams have 4-5 players in the tournament, and probably lose a lot of sleep over a potential injury in what to them are meaningless games.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Greg Wyshsynski had a stat that the Flyers are third in the league in shot differential in the inner slot, aided by suppression. Highlights that the defense is good but the goaltending is maybe worse than we know.

Meets my eye test

 

[Beef Invictus]

Here's a good example why few trades will be made before March 1:

"The Stars still haven’t put Tyler Seguin on long-term injured reserve, wanting to wait as long as possible to accrue more cap space. But when they do park his $9.85 million cap hit, they’ll be one of the more dangerous Cup contenders to monitor ahead of the March 7 trade deadline. They are making their calls right now, but the plan is to be patient and wait until after the 4 Nations event to decide where to act. The idea is to see if more injuries change their needs."

NHL rumblings: Flames not selling on Andersson, Stars can be big-time buyers, Oilers D, Caps goalies, more

Teams have called the Flames about Andersson, and the answer to each team has been the same: There's no interest in trading him.

www.nytimes.com

Trades have already been happening