Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

[deadhead]

What would it take for Flyers fans to trade Sanheim to Colorado excluding MacK and Makar.

That's pretty much it.
Colorado doesn't really have anyone else who fits the Flyers timeline.
We already have their 2025 1st, what else do they have to offer?

Mittlestadt is 26, but is he really an upgrade over Frost?
Rantanen is 28, which is old and expensive for us, and you have to ask how good would he be away from McKinnon (see Hyman).
Ritchie (20) is a good center prospect, but he's not close to equivalent value for Sanheim.

Not that we're shopping Sanheim.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

What would it take for Flyers fans to trade Sanheim to Colorado excluding MacK and Makar.

You’re going to get responses about not having the right pieces, but that misses the forest for the trees. They’re not going to get that much worse no matter what any of us would do.

*Edit* My work here is done.

 

[pit]

Who were "they" wrong about?
AV not liking Ghost or Voracek is neither about evaluation or the current FO.

Sanheim would have been out the door for Krug if that wasn't vetoed by Krug, so I think we can call that a failed evaluation.

That's 3/4 of your top four defense mis-evaluated. I'd call that a pretty damning start, especially when you gave up your second best prospect for half the "second pair" and the other you failed to get value for at the last trade deadline.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Sanheim would have been out the door for Krug if that wasn't vetoed by Krug, so I think we can call that a failed evaluation.

That's 3/4 of your top four defense mis-evaluated. I'd call that a pretty damning start, especially when you gave up your second best prospect for half the "second pair" and the other you failed to get value for at the last trade deadline.

Don’t forget that Andrae started in the AHL this season.

Another misevaluation.

Can’t wait to be told he didn’t earn in in TC and preseason.

 

[freakydallas13]

Culture does matter, it's the reason Carolina turned things around quickly while Buffalo has drafted in the top ten for at least a decade to no avail.

It absolutely is not.

 

[deadhead]

Don’t forget that Andrae started in the AHL this season.

Another misevaluation.

Can’t wait to be told he didn’t earn in in TC and preseason.

Did they trade him? So what's the big deal.

Unless it's an uber talent like Michkov, you don't give prospects jobs, you want them to earn them. Injuries are inevitable, so opportunities will be there, it's up to players to take advantage of them.

Starting the season, the LHDs were York, Seeler, and Zamula.
Seeler had earned it last season and was the caddy for Drysdale, who they definitely didn't want to pair with Zamula or Andrae.

York got injured, Zamula struggled, Andrae got a shot and ran with it.
That's the way you want it to work.

No one expected Andrae to make this big of a jump, this fast.
No one expected Grans to look like he could play in the NHL (wasn't even on the prospect list). Though I think he needs some more development, he's held his own.

Richard, Lycksell and Tuomaala are the three best players on the Phantoms.
Richard and Lycksell have shown they can play in the NHL for short periods, as full-time starters?
Tuomaala has more work to do at 5x5, but he can skate and score.
They provide options for Briere if he wants to trade Laughton.

McDonald and Samson so far haven't shown enough.
Desnoyers, Avon, Gendron are long shots right now.

Phantoms are on Wednesday and Saturday.
I want to see Rizzo in action, hasn't done much so far, but coming off emergency surgery in October to remove his appendix.
Five games so far, starting 11/22. So probably just rounding into game shape.

 

[Boocowski]

Laughton and Risto wouldn't even move the needle.

Nobody is trading a 25 year old physical PPG+ winger for spare parts.

You aren't going to fleece them.

I'm not saying you could get Tkachuk for Risto and Laughton. I'm saying Tkachuk might be available. It would take several first round picks plus to get him but they might be willing to move him if they think he will want out eventually anyway.
Ottawa is failing again they might want a do over plan. Buffalo traded Eichel for 2 firsts Tuch and Krebs or maybe it was a first and a 2nd but not much more. Reinhart went for a first and a goalie prospect. Desperate failing franchises do desperate things.