Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

[ponder719]

Another target might be Wright on Seattle who has been demoted.

If they pull off Frost for Wright without adding another major asset, I will change my custom title to "Brière > Pollock".

I really hope I have to do that.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Trashing players is a core team value stemming from Clarke.

Yep. That’s why Clarke wanted Torts because he knew Torts would shit on players on a regular basis

 

[usahockey22flyers]

I don't know either, but it's a safe bet it'll be the kind of return where we look back a year or two later and regret that it happened. That's the best case scenario.

It's more likely we regret it instantly.

Just another one we’ll add to the list Beef!

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

What is Wrights realistic projection at this point? I haven’t seen him play at all but remember him dropping on draft night when he was projected 1st OA for over a year

 

[Sombastate]

What is Wrights realistic projection at this point? I haven’t seen him play at all but remember him dropping on draft night when he was projected 1st OA for over a year

I watch him regularly and he does everything pretty damn well on the ice, just not ending up on the scoring sheet. I think he's definitely a 2C still, but i don't think he comes anywhere near a 1C

 

[bennysflyers16]

What would Puppet Briere offer, Farabee and Frost for Wright and some Vet garbage ?

 

[GKJ]

I think Frost is more likely for a team like Nashville.

That said, I’m tired of hearing about it. This should have happened last year. Everyone needs to move on. He was never the A-level prospect some people thought, it’s never what the league thought of him, and with a lack of high end talent, he was never going to reach a high ceiling. It’s time to move on, and it’s malfeasance that it hasn’t happened already.

 

[VladDrag]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1859368103555236329

 

[Beef Invictus]

Im sure he has. It's been year after year of futility and bullshit.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1859368103555236329

Frost should be beating down DBs office door and demanding to be traded..

f*** this shithole...

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

They didn’t move Frost because this organization is scared to take a risk like that. So they straddle the line & wait for the decision to make itself for them. Now they’ll probably sell him at a low point for a bag of pucks. I won’t be surprised to see the usual suspect front offices swooping in to get a buy low piece.

I’m not saying Frost is some great player but he can & has been over the stretch of the last few years a useful middle of the lineup player playing in a situation where he isn’t exactly the head coaches’ cup of tea to say the least.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

They didn’t move Frost because this organization is scared to take a risk like that. So they straddle the line & wait for the decision to make itself for them. Now they’ll probably sell him at a low point for a bag of pucks. I won’t be surprised to see the usual suspect front offices swooping in to get a buy low piece.

I’m not saying Frost is some great player but he can & has been over the stretch of the last few years a useful middle of the lineup player playing in a situation where he isn’t exactly the head coaches’ cup of tea to say the least.

i expect his next stop will tell him to stop doing everything he was ever told to do in Philly and become a VERY good NHL player..

hes def. gunna be Ghost v2.0...

 

[VladDrag]

They didn’t move Frost because this organization is scared to take a risk like that. So they straddle the line & wait for the decision to make itself for them. Now they’ll probably sell him at a low point for a bag of pucks. I won’t be surprised to see the usual suspect front offices swooping in to get a buy low piece.

I’m not saying Frost is some great player but he can & has been over the stretch of the last few years a useful middle of the lineup player playing in a situation where he isn’t exactly the head coaches’ cup of tea to say the least.

I am definitely one of the guys who thought Frost could have been a low-end top line player, particularly if he was given the right linemates. Whether that was me thinking over valuing his skills or Torts getting in the way of that development, I am not sure…

But this whole Frost saga is annoying because, it’s not like he was given a real opportunity to develop. It’s been a real organizational failure. Nothing changes if you gave him ice time, and not pulled him in and out of the lineup and tried to actually instill confidence into him. And I have doubts if he’s shipped out, and starts to play well, they’ll actually look at themselves in the mirror and see if they did anything wrong.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I’m not saying Frost is some great player but he can & has been over the stretch of the last few years a useful middle of the lineup player playing in a situation where he isn’t exactly the head coaches’ cup of tea to say the least.

This is yet another lesson we all learned from baseball. The band of players in the 40th-70th Percentiles is the one the generic eye test struggles the most to evaluate. They all have glaring strengths and weaknesses and no one weighs them well on gut. How those balance out is the entire player evaluation.

 

[freakydallas13]

But this whole Frost saga is annoying because, it’s not like he was given a real opportunity to develop.

I can sense an incoming diatribe about how this organization did nothing wrong re: Frost.

 

[Magua]

The good news is the Flyers can just take all the brain power and assets they’ve spent on finding elite defensemen…..and shift gears to center!

 

[dats81]

Frost should be pretty easy to trad since he’s got a low cap hit, no term left and hence no further commitment, and still has some decent potential (debatable) as a two-way middle-six center. Just get him in a good system, and he’s going to produce.

The reason a trade hasn’t happened yet is probably because the team’s got no depth at center and they’re set on doing a player-for-player swap. If they were open to just draft picks, this deal would’ve been done by now.

 

[deadhead]

Frost is not going to suddenly blossom elsewhere, he may score more but he's going to be a role player where ever he goes. He simply doesn't have "it," that intangible quality that top players possess. TK isn't more talented than Frost, he's certainly not as big, but the difference on ice jumps out at you.

I think it's time to move on b/c he's not a good fit here, he's best on a finesse team. On a PO team, he's a 3C and won't get the same chances he got here. And he'll probably thrive in a sheltered role where he's not asked to do too much.

The problem here is expectations were too high and the team too thin, so he was asked to play a bigger role than he can handle. Some players rise to that kind of challenge, others are exposed.

The idea he was "ruined" is silly, he had two years that were about as much as you'd expect from a late 1st rd center (compare to Laughton and Poehling, both drafted ahead of him). He improved on defense, but he's not a high motor physical forward. He's a second tier finesse scorer. He's opportunistic, but doesn't drive play.

 

[ponder719]

Frost should be beating down DBs office door and demanding to be traded..

f*** this shithole...

He should have tried to sneak onto the Hurricanes' plane last night and request asylum.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

He should have tried to sneak onto the Hurricanes' plane last night and request asylum.

post of the year...

 

[Beef Invictus]

Frost is not going to suddenly blossom elsewhere, he may score more but he's going to be a role player where ever he goes. He simply doesn't have "it," that intangible quality that top players possess. TK isn't more talented than Frost, he's certainly not as big, but the difference on ice jumps out at you.

I think it's time to move on b/c he's not a good fit here, he's best on a finesse team. On a PO team, he's a 3C and won't get the same chances he got here. And he'll probably thrive in a sheltered role where he's not asked to do too much.

The problem here is expectations were too high and the team too thin, so he was asked to play a bigger role than he can handle. Some players rise to that kind of challenge, others are exposed.

The idea he was "ruined" is silly, he had two years that were about as much as you'd expect from a late 1st rd center (compare to Laughton and Poehling, both drafted ahead of him). He improved on defense, but he's not a high motor physical forward. He's a second tier finesse scorer. He's opportunistic, but doesn't drive play.

You insisted Ghost was washed and a #7 to justify the team losing his trade, how has that worked out? Frost has turned out two years of low-end second line level play and he's just hitting his prime. It's goofy to write him off this severely. The chances of you being wrong again are high.

 

[freakydallas13]

I can sense an incoming diatribe about how this organization did nothing wrong re: Frost.

Frost is not going to suddenly blossom elsewhere, he may score more but he's going to be a role player where ever he goes. He simply doesn't have "it," that intangible quality that top players possess. TK isn't more talented than Frost, he's certainly not as big, but the difference on ice jumps out at you.

I think it's time to move on b/c he's not a good fit here, he's best on a finesse team. On a PO team, he's a 3C and won't get the same chances he got here. And he'll probably thrive in a sheltered role where he's not asked to do too much.

The problem here is expectations were too high and the team too thin, so he was asked to play a bigger role than he can handle. Some players rise to that kind of challenge, others are exposed.

The idea he was "ruined" is silly, he had two years that were about as much as you'd expect from a late 1st rd center (compare to Laughton and Poehling, both drafted ahead of him). He improved on defense, but he's not a high motor physical forward. He's a second tier finesse scorer. He's opportunistic, but doesn't drive play.

 

[Beef Invictus]

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Imhotep's unbelievably slow reaction here always gets me.

 

[bennysflyers16]

They didn’t move Frost because this organization is scared to take a risk like that. So they straddle the line & wait for the decision to make itself for them. Now they’ll probably sell him at a low point for a bag of pucks. I won’t be surprised to see the usual suspect front offices swooping in to get a buy low piece.

I’m not saying Frost is some great player but he can & has been over the stretch of the last few years a useful middle of the lineup player playing in a situation where he isn’t exactly the head coaches’ cup of tea to say the least.

He's a 40pt center with 60-70 point upside, that is a damn fine player at 25 yrs old.