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Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

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Rich Nixon said:
He could have, but that makes everything more confusing when you look at what the possible reasons might have been, based on reporting by people like Friedman (who don't, y'know, work for the Flyers).

Their line has been "HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE A FLYER HE LIED TO US!" and they've been placing that timeline way early in his freshman year at BC, which makes little sense, especially given that Gauthier attended development camp that summer and himself said that it was "multiple things" that hit him over the "year and a half" since he'd been drafted.

Now, there is a possibility that he'd inquired about signing immediately after his freshman year before that year even started, and they could've shut that down right away, and problems could have begun there. But at that point, Fletcher is still GM. And I think if issues started under the Fletcher regime, they'd have been far more likely to just say that outright.

The most credible insider information, to me, is what Friedman reported:
  • They spoke after Gauthier's college season ended on 3/11/23.
  • Gauthier wanted to join the team at that point.
  • The Flyers didn't want to burn a year of his ELC and/or face a cap overage
  • The Flyers said they could maybe give him an AHL PTO for the remainder of the season, which obviously didn't happen
  • Gauthier informed them in May '23 that he would not sign with them
Given that Chuck Fletcher was fired on 3/10/23, that would mean this conversation happened in the first week—first couple days, even—of Briere's GM tenure.

So if you had to ask me to guess a narrative, it would be that newbie GM didn't know how to read the situation, was trying to play a little moneypuck with the cap, and didn't realize that the haughty douchebag 5th overall pick was going to be offended by an AHL PTO offer. And was stunned to find out he was. And that the team's full-court press in the media after trading him was distraction for the fact that overall franchise dysfunction/front office turnover resulted in an unprepared new GM walking into an important conversation that went totally sideways and cost them a top prospect.
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As an aside, there were BC media people who directly stated Gauthier was interested in signing after the season in '23. They obviously have no interest here either. Hell, they'd want to avoid talking about him being ready to leave.
 
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Ghosts Beer said:
Cutter did lie. He told the Flyers in pre-draft interviews he wanted to play for them. Said on draft night he was born to be a Flyer. And a few months later indicated he didn't want to sign. And then formally requested a trade in May 2023.

But yeah. He's the good guy. Jones and Briere and Ghosts Beer are lying.
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How does that mean he lied? He could have told the truth in the interviews and then botched management led him to change his mind. This is an absurd take on the situation.

Have you stopped to wonder why your takes on this in defense of the Flyers fall apart under the first scrutiny? You should.
 
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I'm beyond bored with the Gauthier timeline discussion and sussing out why he left. I can all but guarantee there's a degree of fault for both sides. That the Flyers bungled trading him, while acting like they pulled off a big heist, is the most important discussion point. That we can examine without story time. It's a decision that has had major ripple effects to the 2024 draft. Their poor processes out in the open and naked. I understand why some people prefer to focus on April 2023 to avoid how f***ed the bigger picture looks.
 
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It just sounds like from what like Charlie, ASF, & Therien have said about Konecny’s situation is that Konecny’s camp are operating like they’re not at a disadvantage in this discussion.

Like STG talked about it a little bit but they obviously brought up Reinhart’s recent extension. They didn’t go fully into it but they essentially said you can poke holes in that from Konecny’s perspective. Reinhart isn’t their best player, I am your best player. Florida just won a cup & has been a contending team which probably will continue at least in the short term. That hasn’t been the case here & by your own admittance won’t be at least in the short term. Since Reinhart has been in Florida they’ve won a lot of games even beyond the Stanley Cup & other final appearance. The Flyers have largely been a bad team the most of Konecny’s time here. The final would be the state income tax difference as well.
 
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LegionOfDoom91 said:
It just sounds like from what like Charlie, ASF, & Therien have said about Konecny’s situation is that Konecny’s camp are operating like they’re not at a disadvantage in this discussion.

Like STG talked about it a little bit but they obviously brought up Reinhart’s recent extension. They didn’t go fully into it but they essentially said you can poke holes in that from Konecny’s perspective. Reinhart isn’t their best player, I am your best player. Florida just won a cup & has been a contending team which probably will continue at least in the short term. That hasn’t been the case here & by your own admittance won’t be at least in the short term. Since Reinhart has been in Florida they’ve won a lot of games even beyond the Stanley Cup & other final appearance. The Flyers have largely been a bad team the most of Konecny’s time here. The final would be the state income tax difference as well.
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The argument of “I’m the best player here so I want to be paid like it” is true and a valid ask coming from a player who wants to (and deserves to) get paid. I like Konecny and I want to see him thrive, just not here. I also understand the Flyers’ reasoning for wanting to keep him (he’s their best player right now) but it doesn’t make any sense with the timeline.

I know I’m preaching to the choir here but it’s asset mismanagement to not move him for a decent haul while retaining salary, and an even bigger mismanagement to have not done it when he had 2 years left on his contract.
 
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If you ask the Flyers to shit or get off the pot with important roster decisions, they get off the pot.....and then shit.

Weirdly enough, Konecny doesn't think "Culture" subtracts $1MM AAV. I imagine the front office is insulted that players don't want sub-market value to stay here. They essentially have to pay him to sustain their contending fantasy, after they didn't trade him at peak value.
 
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TK's logic that I'm your best player so I need to be paid like the best players on the best teams is asinine. Not every starting goalie (the best goalie on each team) makes the same amount. But if this is the straw that breaks the Flyers back and gets them to trade him, then I am 100% behind TK here.
 
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bleachdrinker said:
Agreed, think it’s best for both parties if they go their separate ways. By the time this team is ready to compete, they’re not going to be getting additional value from a Konecny contract unless he’s taking a massive discount.
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It’s looking like things could take even longer since we drafted a 2C over a 1D and then have been pushing assets to 2025. Not a good timeline for TK.
 
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LegionOfGloom said:
TK's logic that I'm your best player so I need to be paid like the best players on the best teams is asinine. Not every starting goalie (the best goalie on each team) makes the same amount. But if this is the straw that breaks the Flyers back and gets them to trade him, then I am 100% behind TK here.
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We don’t know that that is his logic. We don’t know anything really. He might want big bucks.. he might want to be far away from the coach that is an asshole and has been past the 1st round only 3 times is 20 years… we don’t know.
 
Audible Velvet said:
Yeah, if things go south with TK, it will be a glorious disaster for this organization

Yeah, if things go south with TK, it will be a glorious disaster for this organization
Fingers crossed
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Between Cutter and TK, it's about time someone began strapping this team to the breaking wheel like they deserve. This is extremely positive behavior because it can prompt evolution and growth. I am sure it will!
 
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Audible Velvet said:
Yeah, if things go south with TK, it will be a glorious disaster for this organization

Yeah, if things go south with TK, it will be a glorious disaster for this organization
Fingers crossed
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They will just paint TK as the bad guy just like every other player who left on the not so greatest terms. The minions will eat it up.
 
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Beef Invictus said:
Have you considered that he is lying, though? They lied about Hayes being involved. They contradicted themselves on the Cutter narrative.They made an elaborate PR campaign to sell a rebuild that they knew wasn't happening.

You think this is the time he's honest? Why?

Why don't you explain to us how this is the time the known underhanded liar who has spent years selectively feeding his media pets can be trusted this time, when all other information we have indicated otherwise?

Jones has done nothing to earn trust and much to prove he should not be trusted. Why is he to be believed now? Simply because he is in a position of authority?
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I’ll just add that he “heard this in the booth over a year ago” and yet somehow there wasn’t a whisper of it anywhere? The Flyers Front Office was so careless with this potentially disastrous story that a WIP host and TNT broadcast guy casually heard the information and somehow there wasn’t a single mention of it on the air or in a Friedman article or even in a tweet?

It’s just too absurd to believe. All the leaks that came out of the last front office and made it to print and the biggest bombshell story of them all was casually told to a broadcaster and doesn’t make it out? 🤣🤣🤣

Jones lying in this fashion makes a lot of sense though… clearly letting everyone know the problems started in the previous regime, clearly stating that he and danny weren’t given a chance to present their plan. He’s presenting a clear message of “Hey it’s not our fault.”
 
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flyersnorth said:
I was curious to see what the 10-15 drafting range looked like from 2010-2020 because that's the range the Flyers are likely to be drafting.

I see some busts, some bottom of the lineup players, some really decent top 6 / top 4 guys, and very few clear cut 1st line / 1st pairing guys.

Why go all-in on expecting to buck the trend and that you will be the one to find the true gem in a pile of flea market jewelry?

2020

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[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]GP[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]A[/TD]
[TD]P[/TD]
[TD]PIM[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Winnipeg[/TD]
[TD]Cole Perfetti[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Saginaw Spirit [OHL][/TD]
[TD]140[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD]75[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Nashville[/TD]
[TD]Yaroslav Askarov[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]St. Petersburg Jr. (Russia)[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Florida[/TD]
[TD]Anton Lundell[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]HIFK Helsinki [SM-liiga][/TD]
[TD]216[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]69[/TD]
[TD]112[/TD]
[TD]107[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Carolina[/TD]
[TD]Seth Jarvis[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Portland Winterhawks [WHL][/TD]
[TD]231[/TD]
[TD]64[/TD]
[TD]82[/TD]
[TD]146[/TD]
[TD]44[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Edmonton[/TD]
[TD]Dylan Holloway[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]U. of Wisconsin [Big-10][/TD]
[TD]89[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Toronto[/TD]
[TD]Rodion Amirov[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Ufa Salavat Yulayev [KHL][/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
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2019

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Vancouver[/TD]
[TD]Vasili Podkolzin[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]St. Petersburg [Russia Jr.][/TD]
[TD]137[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Arizona[/TD]
[TD]Victor Soderstrom[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Brynas IF Gavle [SweHL][/TD]
[TD]53[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Minnesota[/TD]
[TD]Matthew Boldy[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Development Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]203[/TD]
[TD]75[/TD]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]171[/TD]
[TD]97[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Florida[/TD]
[TD]Spencer Knight[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Development Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]57[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2022-23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Philadelphia[/TD]
[TD]Cam York[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Development Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]169[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]45[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]68[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Montreal[/TD]
[TD]Cole Caufield[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Development Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]205[/TD]
[TD]81[/TD]
[TD]68[/TD]
[TD]149[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

2018

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Edmonton[/TD]
[TD]Evan Bouchard[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]London Knights [OHL][/TD]
[TD]265[/TD]
[TD]41[/TD]
[TD]130[/TD]
[TD]171[/TD]
[TD]92[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]NY Islanders[/TD]
[TD]Oliver Wahlstrom[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Under-18 Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]193[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]67[/TD]
[TD]139[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]NY Islanders[/TD]
[TD]Noah Dobson[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Acadie-Bathurst Titan [QMJHL][/TD]
[TD]317[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]151[/TD]
[TD]191[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Dallas[/TD]
[TD]Ty Dellandrea[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Flint Firebirds [OHL][/TD]
[TD]151[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Philadelphia[/TD]
[TD]Joel Farabee[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Under-18 Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]334[/TD]
[TD]82[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]182[/TD]
[TD]195[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Florida[/TD]
[TD]Grigori Denisenko[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Yaroslavl (Russia-Jr)[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
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2017

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Florida[/TD]
[TD]Owen Tippett[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]Mississauga Steelheads [OHL][/TD]
[TD]270[/TD]
[TD]73[/TD]
[TD]69[/TD]
[TD]142[/TD]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Los Angeles[/TD]
[TD]Gabriel Vilardi[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Windsor Spitfires [OHL][/TD]
[TD]199[/TD]
[TD]63[/TD]
[TD]51[/TD]
[TD]114[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Carolina[/TD]
[TD]Martin Necas[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Brno Kometa [Czech][/TD]
[TD]362[/TD]
[TD]97[/TD]
[TD]146[/TD]
[TD]243[/TD]
[TD]138[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Vegas[/TD]
[TD]Nick Suzuki[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Owen Sound Attack [OHL][/TD]
[TD]373[/TD]
[TD]108[/TD]
[TD]178[/TD]
[TD]286[/TD]
[TD]131[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Tampa Bay[/TD]
[TD]Cal Foote[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Kelowna Rockets [WHL][/TD]
[TD]145[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]137[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Vegas[/TD]
[TD]Erik Brannstrom[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]HV71 Jonkoping [SweHL][/TD]
[TD]266[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]62[/TD]
[TD]69[/TD]
[TD]145[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
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2016

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[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Colorado[/TD]
[TD]Tyson Jost[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Penticton Vees [BCHL][/TD]
[TD]456[/TD]
[TD]57[/TD]
[TD]83[/TD]
[TD]140[/TD]
[TD]164[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Ottawa[/TD]
[TD]Logan Brown[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Windsor Spitfires [OHL][/TD]
[TD]99[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]2022-23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]New Jersey[/TD]
[TD]Michael McLeod[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Mississauga Steelheads [OHL][/TD]
[TD]287[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]85[/TD]
[TD]164[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Carolina[/TD]
[TD]Jake Bean[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Calgary Hitmen [WHL][/TD]
[TD]197[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]76[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Boston[/TD]
[TD]Charlie McAvoy[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Boston University [H-East][/TD]
[TD]454[/TD]
[TD]53[/TD]
[TD]224[/TD]
[TD]277[/TD]
[TD]383[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Minnesota[/TD]
[TD]Luke Kunin[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]U. of Wisconsin [Big-10][/TD]
[TD]359[/TD]
[TD]62[/TD]
[TD]62[/TD]
[TD]124[/TD]
[TD]332[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
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2015

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[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Colorado[/TD]
[TD]Mikko Rantanen[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]TPS Turku [SM-liiga][/TD]
[TD]570[/TD]
[TD]262[/TD]
[TD]355[/TD]
[TD]617[/TD]
[TD]348[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Florida[/TD]
[TD]Lawson Crouse[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Kingston Frontenacs [OHL][/TD]
[TD]504[/TD]
[TD]103[/TD]
[TD]94[/TD]
[TD]197[/TD]
[TD]324[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Dallas[/TD]
[TD]Denis Gurianov[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]Tolyatti (Russia Jrs.)[/TD]
[TD]298[/TD]
[TD]52[/TD]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]113[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Boston[/TD]
[TD]Jakub Zboril[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Saint John Sea Dogs [QMJHL][/TD]
[TD]76[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]2022-23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Boston[/TD]
[TD]Jake DeBrusk[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Swift Current Broncos [WHL][/TD]
[TD]465[/TD]
[TD]138[/TD]
[TD]128[/TD]
[TD]266[/TD]
[TD]101[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Boston[/TD]
[TD]Zachary Senyshyn[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]Soo Greyhounds [OHL][/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2021-22[/TD]
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2014

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Anaheim[/TD]
[TD]Nick Ritchie[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Peterborough Petes [OHL][/TD]
[TD]481[/TD]
[TD]84[/TD]
[TD]102[/TD]
[TD]186[/TD]
[TD]483[/TD]
[TD]2022-23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Nashville[/TD]
[TD]Kevin Fiala[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]HV71 Jonkoping [SweHL][/TD]
[TD]570[/TD]
[TD]176[/TD]
[TD]252[/TD]
[TD]428[/TD]
[TD]331[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Arizona[/TD]
[TD]Brendan Perlini[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Niagara IceDogs [OHL][/TD]
[TD]262[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]81[/TD]
[TD]92[/TD]
[TD]2021-22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Washington[/TD]
[TD]Jakub Vrana[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Linkopings HC [SweHL][/TD]
[TD]367[/TD]
[TD]110[/TD]
[TD]99[/TD]
[TD]209[/TD]
[TD]103[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Dallas[/TD]
[TD]Julius Honka[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Swift Current Broncos [WHL][/TD]
[TD]87[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]2018-19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Detroit[/TD]
[TD]Dylan Larkin[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Under-18 Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]652[/TD]
[TD]212[/TD]
[TD]294[/TD]
[TD]506[/TD]
[TD]411[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

2013

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[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Dallas[/TD]
[TD]Valeri Nichushkin[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]Chelyabinsk Traktor [KHL][/TD]
[TD]512[/TD]
[TD]116[/TD]
[TD]158[/TD]
[TD]274[/TD]
[TD]78[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Philadelphia[/TD]
[TD]Samuel Morin[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Rimouski Oceanic [QMJHL][/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]45[/TD]
[TD]2020-21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Phoenix[/TD]
[TD]Max Domi[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]London Knights [OHL][/TD]
[TD]661[/TD]
[TD]130[/TD]
[TD]287[/TD]
[TD]417[/TD]
[TD]630[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Winnipeg[/TD]
[TD]Josh Morrissey[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Prince Albert Raiders [WHL][/TD]
[TD]582[/TD]
[TD]66[/TD]
[TD]245[/TD]
[TD]311[/TD]
[TD]299[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Columbus[/TD]
[TD]Alexander Wennberg[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Djurgardens IF Stockholm [Swe-1][/TD]
[TD]712[/TD]
[TD]91[/TD]
[TD]244[/TD]
[TD]335[/TD]
[TD]155[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]NY Islanders[/TD]
[TD]Ryan Pulock[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Brandon Wheat Kings [WHL][/TD]
[TD]486[/TD]
[TD]48[/TD]
[TD]143[/TD]
[TD]191[/TD]
[TD]91[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


2012

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[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Tampa Bay[/TD]
[TD]Slater Koekkoek[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Peterborough Petes [OHL][/TD]
[TD]186[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]104[/TD]
[TD]2021-22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Washington[/TD]
[TD]Filip Forsberg[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Leksands IF [Swe-1][/TD]
[TD]698[/TD]
[TD]287[/TD]
[TD]318[/TD]
[TD]605[/TD]
[TD]301[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo[/TD]
[TD]Mikhail Grigorenko[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Quebec Remparts [QMJHL][/TD]
[TD]249[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]76[/TD]
[TD]36[/TD]
[TD]2020-21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Dallas[/TD]
[TD]Radek Faksa[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Kitchener Rangers [OHL][/TD]
[TD]638[/TD]
[TD]89[/TD]
[TD]111[/TD]
[TD]200[/TD]
[TD]356[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo[/TD]
[TD]Zemgus Girgensons[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Dubuque Fighting Saints [USHL][/TD]
[TD]688[/TD]
[TD]89[/TD]
[TD]99[/TD]
[TD]188[/TD]
[TD]192[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Ottawa[/TD]
[TD]Cody Ceci[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Ottawa 67's [OHL][/TD]
[TD]786[/TD]
[TD]48[/TD]
[TD]163[/TD]
[TD]211[/TD]
[TD]170[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


2011

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[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Minnesota[/TD]
[TD]Jonas Brodin[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Farjestads BK Karlstad [SEL][/TD]
[TD]803[/TD]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD]186[/TD]
[TD]240[/TD]
[TD]244[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Colorado[/TD]
[TD]Duncan Siemens[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Saskatoon Blades [WHL][/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]2017-18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Carolina[/TD]
[TD]Ryan Murphy[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Kitchener Rangers [OHL][/TD]
[TD]175[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD]2018-19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Calgary[/TD]
[TD]Sven Baertschi[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Portland Winterhawks [WHL][/TD]
[TD]292[/TD]
[TD]66[/TD]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]138[/TD]
[TD]78[/TD]
[TD]2021-22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Dallas[/TD]
[TD]Jamie Oleksiak[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Northeastern University [H-East][/TD]
[TD]598[/TD]
[TD]36[/TD]
[TD]93[/TD]
[TD]129[/TD]
[TD]453[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]NY Rangers[/TD]
[TD]J.T. Miller[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Development Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]799[/TD]
[TD]238[/TD]
[TD]401[/TD]
[TD]639[/TD]
[TD]441[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

2010

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]NY Rangers[/TD]
[TD]Dylan McIlrath[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Moose Jaw Warriors [WHL][/TD]
[TD]75[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]133[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Dallas[/TD]
[TD]Jack Campbell[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Development Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]176[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Anaheim[/TD]
[TD]Cam Fowler[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Windsor Spitfires [OHL][/TD]
[TD]974[/TD]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]357[/TD]
[TD]453[/TD]
[TD]255[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Phoenix[/TD]
[TD]Brandon Gormley[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Moncton Wildcats [QMJHL][/TD]
[TD]58[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]2015-16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]St. Louis[/TD]
[TD]Jaden Schwartz[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Tri-City Storm [USHL][/TD]
[TD]730[/TD]
[TD]196[/TD]
[TD]282[/TD]
[TD]478[/TD]
[TD]213[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Los Angeles[/TD]
[TD]Derek Forbort[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]U.S. National Development Team [USHL][/TD]
[TD]496[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]78[/TD]
[TD]95[/TD]
[TD]299[/TD]
[TD]2023-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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As someone else who compiles list no one else reads, I support this post
 
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I really hope they can sign TK to a nice team friendly deal but it's unlikely. He's a speedster, I fully expect he'll be a good player in his mid 30's. Early to mid 30's will be the teams time line most likely, I'm okay as long as they dont go crazy and break the bank the cap is certainly going to increase. TK is a character guy and I genuinely think he fits Philly really well, that being said, he's most likely getting traded.
 
LegionOfGloom said:
TK's logic that I'm your best player so I need to be paid like the best players on the best teams is asinine. Not every starting goalie (the best goalie on each team) makes the same amount. But if this is the straw that breaks the Flyers back and gets them to trade him, then I am 100% behind TK here.
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That’s not necessarily saying that’s his view point but rather more so speculation as to what the likely counter argument would be from his camp.

I’m not even saying this in a cynical way but even looking at through the lens of the hockey bubble eyes. If you asked the Flyers front office to list their most valuable players in the entire organization from #1 to whatever. Konecny would easily be #2 with the caveat that #1 hasn’t even played an NHL game yet & there’s a crater size gap between Konecny & whoever the #3 player is.

You’d be a fool if you didn’t leverage that against the Flyers especially when I don’t think it’s a big secret that they don’t really have the appetite to move Konecny.
 
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Boxscore said:
Lmao. Zero chance Clarke is wasting his time on the organization these days. He's living in Florida, taking naps, and spending time with the grandchildren. He didn't even remember Giroux's name when he was still GM. I'd be hard-pressed to believe he'd know Jett Luchanko from Joan Jett.

Convince me Holmgren still has blackmail tapes on someone at Comcast, fine. But Clarke? :laugh:
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FromOyVey2Matvei said:
@Beef Invictus you have a very keen eye for this sort of thing. Who is that wrinkly old fellow on the far left? View attachment 843094
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