Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

[JojoTheWhale]

One thing that would worry me is his inconsistency, pp/60 (5x5) last four seasons: 1.60, 3.05, 2.53, 1.60

I understand why you look at Primary Points, but I do not understand for the life of me why you wield it like a cudgel against every playmaking Forward archetype without showing any sort of work on or care for what might be happening.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[FlyguyOX]

No reason we shouldn't be able to trade for EP then lol

 

[VladDrag]

Sounds like we did him a solid by giving him a huge wakeup call.

I agree that what happened during his time in the Flyers org probably made him wake up a bit, and helped him turn the corner.

My issue though is the other side of that coin. The team clearly took a hard line approach with Maroon. Maybe that was a top down strategy, or maybe it was just Gilbert, but the point is they were clearly singling out Maroon. Perhaps if the Flyers took a different approach, Maroon never 'grows up', but by taking the approach they did, it ensured conflict at some point.

 

[Curufinwe]

Maroon had some big AHL numbers for a 6th rounder

Pat Maroon - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Pat Maroon, 1988-04-23 St. Louis, MO, USA USA. Most recently in the NHL with Chicago Blackhawks. Complete player biography and stats.

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[FatTugboatFlahr]

Please. Just one time man.

Danny needs to take off his Cheveldayoff skin suit and make a trade.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

The Flyers would 5000% trade for Miller given the choice between the two.

Also, there's no undo button and there's also no do button so Briere won't do anything. Too fearful.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

"Now, with the team improving and the plan to build a contender in the next 18 months commencing"

1.5 years. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this still sticking to that original timeline they laid out? They really are this delusional.

Wait, DiMarco said the 18 month window thing too? Sweet baby Jesus.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

The Flyers would 5000% trade for Miller given the choice between the two.

Also, there's no undo button and there's also no do button so Briere won't do anything. Too fearful.

100% Michkov would be traded before Laughton at this point.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

The Flyers would 5000% trade for Miller given the choice between the two.

Also, there's no undo button and there's also no do button so Briere won't do anything. Too fearful.

"the room deserves the chance to stay together during this rebuild.."

 

[Larry44]

"the room deserves the chance to stay together during this rebuild.."

BREAKING - June 20, 2025: "Flyers surprise the world and win the Cup! Team credits singing Kumbaya together before and after games as key feature in the amazing Room."

 

[BernieParent]

"Shut up and take my prospects!"

 

[Adam Warlock]

Wait, DiMarco said the 18 month window thing too? Sweet baby Jesus.

2026-2027 has always been their target. We all assumed that following the original Mich timeline, but really it was the Torts timeline.

Their rebuild was never a talent rebuild it was a culture rebuild. Give Torts 4 years to make the Flyers "respected" again. After next season then theyll be the Flyers again and with a lot of cap space, all the free agents will want to sign here again!

That is their delusion. Theyll build a contender level culture and just add an Eichel or Kaprizov in 26 and itll be go time.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

2026-2027 has always been their target. We all assumed that following the original Mich timeline, but really it was the Torts timeline.

Their rebuild was never a talent rebuild it was a culture rebuild. Give Torts 4 years to make the Flyers "respected" again. After next season then theyll be the Flyers again and with a lot of cap space, all the free agents will want to sign here again!

That is their delusion. Theyll build a contender level culture and just add an Eichel or Kaprizov in 26 and itll be go time.

cant wait for the elite FA talent to want to sign on a team stuck at 23rd OA. great rebuild..

 

[deadhead]

I agree that what happened during his time in the Flyers org probably made him wake up a bit, and helped him turn the corner.

My issue though is the other side of that coin. The team clearly took a hard line approach with Maroon. Maybe that was a top down strategy, or maybe it was just Gilbert, but the point is they were clearly singling out Maroon. Perhaps if the Flyers took a different approach, Maroon never 'grows up', but by taking the approach they did, it ensured conflict at some point.


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Maroon was a 6th rd pick who spent two years with the Phantoms before he was dumped.
He spent two more years in the AHL after leaving the Flyers, he wasn't an instant success.
4 AHL seasons and didn't start until he was 25.

Gilbert handled it badly, but Maroon was a big reason for his own problems.
It was kept quiet, but Maroon's drinking may have played a part.

Greg Gilbert, Phantoms coach: Patrick was a big kid, tough kid, good skill. He had all the tools. Not a bad kid at all. He just didn’t have the commitment to become the player and push himself to become the player he’s turned into now.

Ben Lovejoy, former Ducks and Devils teammate: He’s a guy that will admit he’s made pretty much every mistake you can.

 

[Cody Webster]

Maroon was a 6th rd pick who spent two years with the Phantoms before he was dumped.
He spent two more years in the AHL after leaving the Flyers, he wasn't an instant success.
4 AHL seasons and didn't start until he was 25.

Gilbert handled it badly, but Maroon was a big reason for his own problems.
It was kept quiet, but Maroon's drinking may have played a part.

Greg Gilbert, Phantoms coach: Patrick was a big kid, tough kid, good skill. He had all the tools. Not a bad kid at all. He just didn’t have the commitment to become the player and push himself to become the player he’s turned into now.

Ben Lovejoy, former Ducks and Devils teammate: He’s a guy that will admit he’s made pretty much every mistake you can.

Thanks

 

[Boxscore]

Briere won't do anything. Pettersson is a 26-year-old 1st line center who looked like a Top-10 player in the league for a couple of years. He's the perfect, cerebral playmaker for Michkov. But the Flyers will let him go to a team like Ottawa or Buffalo. This is a typical Flyers play... sit and do nothing. Too afraid to take risks, so they pass up whopper trades and draft guys like Bonk and Luchanko over Perreault and Buium because those good ol' Canadian boys are safe players who won't be stars but will be solid.

 

[Beef Invictus]

"You may be drafted here, but you're not winning a cup here."

Lol we sure showed him

 

[GKJ]

The snow the goalie episode they just had was horrendous lol, people were asking about why culture over skill and they refused to answer, then chose to really answer people that fluffed the Flyers, and bundy screamed at russ for wanting to trade pieces and tank

The masses are restless

By any definition of a rebuild, there are no such ones where it is palatable anymore to go 5 years with it. It’s 3 at most. Owners can’t sell rebuilds because they still don’t draw. They’re also cards are on the table. If they’re contenders in 18 months, that means they are full boar for the playoffs next year. Their expectations within the standings now has a floor. Hilferty has said out loud that this is the last year of salary cap turmoil.

They’re also in a division with the Capitals who did a retool the way they always expected Hextall and Fletcher to do it. Not just developing players, but never being awful, and bringing in guys any one of us would’ve screamed about. Including the coach.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Briere had a choice last year. Sell off guys like Laughton, TK, Seeler, etc and committ to a longer rebuild through the draft...or do what they did and hope to compete sooner with mostly the players they have.

With the path he chose... a big swing for a player like EP would make a lot of sense bc it would maximize the roster. Not only adding a great player, but one who could slot everyone correctly and improve their wingers.

Instead, hes acting hes operating as if he sold off all the assets. Really comfusing..

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Briere had a choice last year. Sell off guys like Laughton, TK, Seeler, etc and committ to a longer rebuild through the draft...or do what they did and hope to compete sooner with mostly the players they have.

With the path he chose... a big swing for a player like EP would make a lot of sense bc it would maximize the roster. Not only adding a great player, but one who could slot everyone correctly and improve their wingers.

Instead, hes acting hes operating as if he sold off all the assets. Really comfusing..

But they don't really know EP (Kevin the clown kurz said that)

 

[Adam Warlock]

But they don't really know EP (Kevin the clown kurz said that)

I just saw that. He thinks they should trade for Miller....a 31 year old who is the entire reason vancouver is in this mess.

 

[Danko]

Somethings gotta give here.

 

[deadhead]

Briere had a choice last year. Sell off guys like Laughton, TK, Seeler, etc and committ to a longer rebuild through the draft...or do what they did and hope to compete sooner with mostly the players they have.

With the path he chose... a big swing for a player like EP would make a lot of sense bc it would maximize the roster. Not only adding a great player, but one who could slot everyone correctly and improve their wingers.

Instead, hes acting hes operating as if he sold off all the assets. Really comfusing..

Laughton has more value after this season. Subpar last season probably resulted in limited offers.

Seeler, Hathaway would garner you mid-round picks, maybe a 3rd for Seeler, but he's a 3rd pair D-man, you're not getting a premium. I'd rather have Seeler to babysit young D-men, Drysdale this year, maybe Bonk next year. TCL expires summer of 2026, at that point no room in the inn.

So TK was the only meaningful trade, you would have gotten a late 1st, late 2nd and "B" prospect last summer, similar to Meier. Since then he's taken his game up a notch.

If EP was a great player, it would be a no brainer if you could get him cheap.
But NTC kicks in next year, if he's one of those who glides after he gets big money . . .

Reportedly the ask from Buffalo is Cozens and Byram, Montreal, Suzuki and Guhle.
Detroit: A proposed trade involves sending JT Compher, Michael Rasmussen, top prospect Nate Danielson, goalie prospect Trey Augustine, and a 2025 first-round pick to Vancouver

Rutherford would ask for Michkov, Flyers would probably have to offer Frost, Farabee, (2) 1st rd picks or something like that.

I think Miller will be the one to be traded, Rutherford inherited a mess, and dumping an aging contract would give him more flexibility this summer.

 

[ponder719]

Somethings gotta give here.

Oh, you sweet summer child. The Culture Club does, in fact, really want to hurt us.