Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 2, More Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions: Say It Like You Mean It

[zizbuka]

Hence why they decided to trade away Ghost and Sanheim for negative value all the while they put a premium on Seelers and Fistolainens of the world. Also a reason why I'm highly confident they'll get rid of Drysdale if injuries don't take him first. Only thing they need is Michkov to have better season and they'll have beats spewing nonsense like we don't need no Gauthier and Drysdale has helped us land a great character guy and leader(insert whatever the future version of Cambo will be available).

We traded Sanheim?

 

[TheKingPin]

i’ll give EJ one thing - he’s fearless. He loves to dive to poke and block shots.

He’s also terrible

Way too many Andrew MacDonald vibes. EJ was on the ice for A LOT of goals against it felt like.

I just looked at the potential FA list for next summer.

Draisaitl
Marner
Rantanen
Tavares
Boeser
Ehlers
Bennett
Buchnevich

Hedman
Ekblad
Slavin
Chychrun
Provorov

Now obviously most of these guys wont hit the market...but if a few of them did, it wouldnt surprize me if that is the "plan". Seems like a plus FA class and they have money to spend.

One more year of "whatever happens, happens"...then go all in next offseason in a 07 Homer type off season.

I think this is the plan as well. IF they hit this and the next draft and trade TK to help that part along, it may not be the worst plan. I would really love to trade TK for a mid to early 1st this year +. The way this draft is shaping up a good player will for sure be there after our pick.

 

[Curufinwe]

Haha... Provorov

I said this would happen and people laughed at me

Who specifically?

It's the most classic Flyers move ever.

 

[Curufinwe]

Ages at Halloween

York (23)-Sanheim (28)
Seeler (31)-Drysdale (22)
Zamula (24)-Risto (30)
Johnson (36)

 

[FLYguy3911]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803065509656600736

 

[ponder719]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803065509656600736

If I played like Atkinson has since he got here, I wouldn't want to move to a team where I'd be the third best player, either.

 

[Curufinwe]

Cam Atkinson Contract, Cap Hit, Salary and Stats - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Cam Atkinson contract, salary, cap hit, salary cap, aav, career earnings, lifetime earnings, aav, advanced stats, transaction history, trade history, and rfa or ufa free agent status

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CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 10 team no-trade list (from June 15, 2020 until contract expiry)

 

[GKJ]

Hard to imagine someone trading for him, but I don’t think Mike Grier has any clue what he’s doing.

 

[ponder719]

Hard to imagine someone trading for him, but I don’t think Mike Grier has any clue what he’s doing.

Well, we don't know what Dreger means by "trade interest." I can't imagine it's assigning positive value to Atkinson, he may well mean Atkinson at 50% and a 3rd for a 7th.

 

[Curufinwe]

Their roster is barely comprehensible

San Jose Sharks Salary Cap, Draft Picks, and Player Contracts - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

San Jose Sharks salary cap, contracts, roster, draft picks, salary, cap space, stats, salary cap projections, and daily cap tracking

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[GKJ]

Well, we don't know what Dreger means by "trade interest." I can't imagine it's assigning positive value to Atkinson, he may well mean Atkinson at 50% and a 3rd for a 7th.

Why on earth would that even be a thing? Why would the Flyers attach to get nothing back?

 

[ponder719]

Why on earth would that even be a thing? Why would the Flyers attach to get nothing back?

I have a terrible sneaking suspicion that they want some cap space freed up to sign someone in FA. They're already talking about buying out Petersen, and possibly Atkinson as well, if they can't line up trades for them.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I’m sure all of the people who soiled their pants about Gauthier choosing where to play will be irate about Atkinson too. Right? Is this thing on?

 

[bennysflyers16]

Flyers still think you don’t need guys that can skate well on the back end. Slow, plodding guys who block shots and get out of position to make a hit is the way to go

Imagine targeting EJ again after seeing how atrocious he was !

 

[GKJ]

I have a terrible sneaking suspicion that they want some cap space freed up to sign someone in FA. They're already talking about buying out Petersen, and possibly Atkinson as well, if they can't line up trades for them.

I haven’t seen anything suggesting they’re going to buy out Petersen. They could, maybe should, but people seem to think they’re content leaving his number sit. Maybe he chips a toenail and they can LTIR him.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Their roster is barely comprehensible

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With Celebrini and Smith coming in, and Eklund finally starting to turn things around, they could be fun to watch this coming season. Then you have Granlund and Zetterlund on their RWs on the top 6 and watch them pull off getting Laine.

Eklund - Celebrini - Granlund
Laine - Smith - Zetterlund

Now that's a fun top 6.

 

[mr figgles]

Hard to imagine someone trading for him, but I don’t think Mike Grier has any clue what he’s doing.

Disagree. He‘s dumping albatross contracts left and right, and getting actual assets back. He‘ll gladly take the vet winger at half price in a contract year with a pick attached, then flip him at the deadline for another pick.

 

[BernieParent]

I said this would happen and people laughed at me

We were laughing WITH you.

 

[Curufinwe]

If they buy out Cam, they could get under the cap without having to put Ellis & Johansen on LTIR right away.

Free Agent Signings​

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Brink, Bobby	2	$1,500,000
Zamula, Yegor	1	$1,000,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Johnson, Erik	1	$1,000,000

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$88,000,000	$87,967,262	$245,000	$0	$32,738

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Farabee, Joel $5,000,000	Couturier, Sean $7,750,000	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000
Tippett, Owen $6,200,000	Frost, Morgan $2,100,000	Foerster, Tyson $863,333
Cates, Noah $2,625,000	Laughton, Scott $3,000,000	Brink, Bobby $1,500,000
Lycksell, Olle $787,500	Poehling, Ryan $1,900,000	Hathaway, Garnet $2,375,000
Deslauriers, Nicolas $1,750,000

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
York, Cam $1,600,000	Sanheim, Travis $6,250,000	Fedotov, Ivan $3,275,000
Seeler, Nick $2,700,000	Drysdale, Jamie $2,300,000	Ersson, Samuel $1,450,000
Zamula, Yegor $1,000,000	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000
	Johnson, Erik $1,000,000

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Johansen, Ryan $4,000,000
	Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000

Buyouts​

• Anthony Deangelo: $1,666,667
• Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
• Cam Atkinson: $2,358,334

Retained Salary Transactions​

• Kevin Hayes: $3,571,428 (50%)

Buried​

• Cal Petersen: $3,850,000 ($5,000,000)

 

[Sparkleton]

Well, we don't know what Dreger means by "trade interest." I can't imagine it's assigning positive value to Atkinson, he may well mean Atkinson at 50% and a 3rd for a 7th.

One idea floated around by Shark’s fans was taking on the whole contract and the Flyer’s 12th for the Shark’s 14th. San Jose gets an over priced veteran that can help mentor and Philly gets cap full space for whatever. Seems reasonable but Atkinson saying no would obviously trash the thing. Also people hate trading down on hfboards so there is that as well.

Edit - I said 10th instead of 12th.

 

[ponder719]

I haven’t seen anything suggesting they’re going to buy out Petersen. They could, maybe should, but people seem to think they’re content leaving his number sit. Maybe he chips a toenail and they can LTIR him.

Flyers GM Danny Brière on upcoming free agency, Sean Couturier’s future

Brière addressed the latest around 2023 first-rounder Matvei Michkov, Bobby Brink's contract situation, and more in part one of two Q&A's with The Inquirer.

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Rumor: - Things Not Left Unsaid 2, More Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions: Say It Like You Mean It

People I know in the org say the working conditions/vibes are much better, it's much more collaborative. the employees are happier, there is a legit vision and a "pulling together" mentality...social/ticket people aren't getting yelled at online or through the phones. There is legitimate unity...

forums.hfboards.com

First link is the Inky interview where Brière mentions it obliquely, the second link is a summary by some idiot on this forum, in case you don't have a subscription.

Edit: I didn't want to just copy-paste the whole article, but I will grab the Petersen-relevant bits here, in DB's exact words:

Q: Speaking of the Provorov deal specifically, Cal Peterson was acquired and he spent most of the time this past season with Lehigh Valley. He has one year left at $3.85 million. Is he someone you’re looking at buying out, too?
A: He’s also in the mix. We’re trying to figure out what is best for the Flyers organization as far as the cap structure that we have. So he’s also unfortunately in that mix.

Q: And you’ve had the conversations with him already?
A: Yes, with his agent. They are aware that we’re trying to figure that out.

 

[Curufinwe]

Philly has #12

 

[JojoTheWhale]

One idea floated around by Shark’s fans was taking on the whole contract and the Flyer’s 10th for the Shark’s 14th. San Jose gets an over priced veteran that can help mentor and Philly gets cap full space for whatever. Seems reasonable but Atkinson saying no would obviously trash the thing. Also people hate trading down on this board so there is that as well.

I love the shitting on people while getting the pick details wrong bit. High art.

For the record, I’m more than fine trading down as long as there isn’t a player available who shouldn’t be there (Buium, Parekh, etc). I just want picks back, not to save cap space for one year when they don’t need it. FWIW taking on almost 6MM of Atkinson should get San Jose more than 14 -> 12. He’s useless. But trades have to make sense for both sides, so unless the Flyers are trying to contend immediately, the concept is a non-starter. Of course they might be that incompetent!

 

[wankstifier]

I don't understand why a team that isn't close to contending would prolong cap commitments to players on expiring contracts. Just let that shit expire. If they're serious about turning things around, it'd be better to have a clean slate for 2025.

 

[GKJ]

Disagree. He‘s dumping albatross contracts left and right, and getting actual assets back. He‘ll gladly take the vet winger at half price in a contract year with a pick attached, then flip him at the deadline for another pick.

He’s not going to be moved with a pick attached.

And no one’s trading for him at the deadline either since he’s cooked.