Post-Game Talk: They all look so happy to be here

[tiggles]

J.T. Miller, the guy who has like 30 shots in 20 games as a Ranger is just as much of an issue as anybody. I don’t want to hear the excuses for him. He’s not a play driver.

Yeah, I was trying to say that Miller's results looked a lot better than his actual level of play because of an unsustainable shooting percentage.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

I know it’s tough to quit cold turkey but some of you shouldn’t watch for the rest of the season.

The team doesn’t deserve your attention and you don’t deserve to get waterboarded with diarrhea every other night.

It’s been really good for me not to watch as much. Even when they were winning I found them to be a highly unlikable group and I can’t stand watching our young guys get worse and our old guys continue leading the charge. It’s not sustainable.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Yeah, I was trying to say that Miller's results looked a lot better than his actual level of play because of an unsustainable shooting percentage.

Oh yeah I know, I was just emphasizing your point lol. He’s been a ghost and is terrible defensively.

 

[Raspewtin]

regarding Miller

I did not have high expectations for him and frankly i'm still disappointed.

he's just as shitty with his puck habits as the rest of them. I'm not even seeing the intangibles nonsense I was promised, and I fully expected to!

 

[Fitzy]

regarding Miller

I did not have high expectations for him and frankly i'm still disappointed.

he's just as shitty with his puck habits as the rest of them. I'm not even seeing the intangibles nonsense I was promised, and I fully expected to!

A pinch of salt thrown into a stew pot of diharrhea is going to negate the salt a lot more than it will flavor the meal.

 

[Captain Lindy]

Now that the season is actually over, who are we looking at to replace Lavi when he's fired? I wonder who the legitimate candidates will be.

Let's think of who the new GM will be first.

 

[Raspewtin]

A pinch of salt thrown into a stew pot of diharrhea is going to negate the salt a lot more than it will flavor the meal.

well I don't fundamentally disagree but nothing is stopping JTM from throwing hits or trying to fire the team up, or driving the net aggressively when we can't get anything done, or winning a battle deep to keep the cycle going.

We were promised a fundamentally different player than we're seeing, I think that's the long and short of it. And I don't blame that on Zib, who's having his best stretch in like 2 years. Sorry to me this is all JTM being a bozo.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Gropp 2.0

Come on...like seriously.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Kreider's goal was his 19th of the season. Kind of amazing (even with my Kreider colored glasses on) to think that even in a season that has been his worst as a Ranger, he is still third in goals at the moment. He has five more than Mika. Five more than Lafreniere. And in 14 less games.

Rationalize it all how you want to shit on him. But I like to think that it says a lot about of some of the other top guys on the team.

What says the most about Kreider is his assist total. It's remarkable it's so low, like a 50 year old man on pp1 would find a way to get more assists than that, it's embarrassing

 

[tiggles]

The excuses for Miller are starting in record time.

 

[Fitzy]

well I don't fundamentally disagree but nothing is stopping JTM from throwing hits or trying to fire the team up, or driving the net aggressively when we can't get anything done, or winning a battle deep to keep the cycle going.

We were promised a fundamentally different player than we're seeing, I think that's the long and short of it. And I don't blame that on Zib, who's having his best stretch in like 2 years. Sorry to me this is all JTM being a bozo.

I think JT is the kind of guy who is going to put in a good effort in the right mood. He's always been eccentric. He's always been a little bit streaky.

I disagreed with the assertion that he was going to come in and change the complexion of the Rangers. I thought everyone kind of over-played that element of it, in part perhaps for media engagement and clicks in a rather hum drum part of the regular season. He's not Mark Messier being brought in to control the locker room. He;s a guy who hopefully will give us his best when the team gives it their best, which we still have a long way to go to rectify.

We got a 15-20 ranked center in the league for relatively cheap, and I don't mean to diminish that. But it's one of probably 4-5 key moves this roster needs.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

If Mike Sullivan gets fired and Drury is still GM, it will 1000% be Sully

Is there really a good shot of Sullivan getting fired, though? I'm sure Drury's #1,2, and 3 choices are all Sully but I don't see him being available.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Would this be worse than what we have now? These guys would atleast show some confidence in younger players imo.

 

[Filip Chytil]

Would this be worse than what we have now? These guys would atleast show some confidence in younger players imo.
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Present day Paul Mara would still be our best LHD

 

[Mike in Houston]

Is there really a good shot of Sullivan getting fired, though? I'm sure Drury's #1,2, and 3 choices are all Sully but I don't see him being available.

I hope so. Then Sullivan can be hired here, bring David Quinn back with him, and we can get some swagger back.

 

[CasusBelli]

This is the least I’ve ever been invested in the rangers success or lack there of ever. f*** this team.

I haven't finished watching a gam over the past ... month? First time since I became an NYR fan in 2010. Even when I used to work until 1am or 2am at the office, I'd have NYR streaming in the background. This team is just tedious.

 

[CasusBelli]

Present day Paul Mara would still be our best LHD

The whole d-corp is an abomination.

Thinking about things more, Adam Fox is to playmaking defensemen as Bryan McCabe is to shooting defensemen, except Caber had size and used to actually hit as well. But the defensive awareness and skating ability are on par.

 

[Machinehead]

@DanielBrassard had it right.

The only thing that ever changed about Miller was being super glued to Quinn Hughes for a couple of years.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

I know it’s tough to quit cold turkey but some of you shouldn’t watch for the rest of the season.

The team doesn’t deserve your attention and you don’t deserve to get waterboarded with diarrhea every other night.

It’s been really good for me not to watch as much. Even when they were winning I found them to be a highly unlikable group and I can’t stand watching our young guys get worse and our old guys continue leading the charge. It’s not sustainable.

Same. My avatar what it is because I've been watching a lot more PWHL. Sirens might be in last, but I'm enjoying it. FPHL, AHL, PWHL, and NCAA have been filling my hockey need of late, plus my own beer league games.

It's to the point where I'd rather watch Danbury Watertown on Youtube, or out of town PWHL, than pretend to get all hype for some Ranger game where Meeka gets a phantom 2nd assist on a Panarin PPG, the goalie has to stand on his head, and the only player who seems to give half a rat's ass is Cuylle.

Really not a fan of this team's roster construction right now. This just feels like one of those invariable cycles where we swap skill for grit, overpay/overplay roleplayers, achieve a few 2-1 and 3-2 wins on the basis of spectacular goaltending, but ultimately fail to produce anything resembling a 100 point scorer or three 80 point scorers, and either wipe out in the first round or miss the playoffs entirely.

Cue the screeching that we need more grinders with work ethic to 45% Corsi our way to a few garbage goals and some hard luck wins so we can act like the teams that won Cups aren't oozing with skill that we've never cultivated. Even in spite of the fact that every single playoff year we've been eliminated since 2005-06, it's been due to lack of goalscoring - not grit and defense.

Can't wait for Laf to turn into a 70 point player in 5 more years when the team finally demands he produce in a scoring role, unlike literally every other team which is full of young savages who are immediately thrust into top line minutes. It'll be great sitting through a few more 50 point seasons, just like we did with Kreider, all while paying him first line money until he gets there a decade into his career for a short lived peak. Also thrilled to have JT Miller back, just in time for him to morph back into a 60 point player, because we are and have been the worst franchise in hockey history at developing elite scoring forward talent and have been for the entirety of my lifetime.

But I'm sure another coaching change will fix it.

Besides, Sarah Fillier just scored more rookie points than both Lafreniere and Kakko did in their respective freshman campaigns, and the PHWL is season is only slightly more than a third longer than the NHL season. A last place team that can at least develop talent in a 6-team league offers more promise right now than a team that cast its lot with an aging core that has never won anything that can't develop shit except grinders and goalies in a 32-team league.

I hate to be cynical, but these cycles this team goes through just aren't fun, and it's healthy to pull back during this part. FWIW I wasn't living and dying with the team in 2017-18 either.

 

[Captain Lindy]

I'm not bothering to watch Saturday's game. I have better things to do on a Saturday, spring day. I figure I can watch the Sam salute on video later on. f*** this team.

 

[Raspewtin]

I think JT is the kind of guy who is going to put in a good effort in the right mood. He's always been eccentric. He's always been a little bit streaky.

I disagreed with the assertion that he was going to come in and change the complexion of the Rangers. I thought everyone kind of over-played that element of it, in part perhaps for media engagement and clicks in a rather hum drum part of the regular season. He's not Mark Messier being brought in to control the locker room. He;s a guy who hopefully will give us his best when the team gives it their best, which we still have a long way to go to rectify.

We got a 15-20 ranked center in the league for relatively cheap, and I don't mean to diminish that. But it's one of probably 4-5 key moves this roster needs.

Yeah that's exactly what I'm getting at. We were told to overlook the glaring deficiencies at ES he has because he "played the right way", and now we're supposed to not be surprised that he looks like shit at ES. To be clear I never bought this culture changer nonsense but I still expected more.

 

[JimmyG89]

I know it’s tough to quit cold turkey but some of you shouldn’t watch for the rest of the season.

The team doesn’t deserve your attention and you don’t deserve to get waterboarded with diarrhea every other night.

As if right now, there is only one reason I turn MSG on to watch, and it's really to listen.

We only have so many Sam Rosen games left. If there is someone that has earned it, it's him. I'm going to try and enjoy each and every one of them.

 

[will1066]

@DanielBrassard had it right.

The only thing that ever changed about Miller was being super glued to Quinn Hughes for a couple of years.

By that logic, he should super glue himself to Adam Fox and watch the success rain down.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

I am going to watch the Sam salute, and I will honestly probably cry a lot.

I am from Vancouver, so I will at least watch some of the game. After that, though, this team's on their own. I can't continue to invest this much time into a group that does not care.

 

[Machinehead]

By that logic, he should super glue himself to Adam Fox and watch the success rain down.

Fox is not gonna carry an offense. At his peak, he wasn't as dynamic as the top OFD's and his ability to carry the puck is pedestrian.

He's Ekholm on crack.