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Theoretical question : Team Canada vs NHL top team

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There's already been a good deal of justified mockery in this thread but I'm going to pile on.

The question asked is basically this: Is a team of players too young and not good enough for the NHL good enough to beat an NHL team?
 
donghabs98 said:
A better question would have been If this Team Canada team reached it's potential could they beat a top NHL team?
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Its potential this season, or through their career?

So basically, could reassemble this years team in 10 years and beat an NHL top team? Much harder question. Undoubtably, a lot of players will never amount to any kind of success on the professional level. If enough of the others that reach star status to make up for the scrubs, they could beat a NHL team.
 
TheTwelfth said:
Its potential this season, or through their career?

So basically, could reassemble this years team in 10 years and beat an NHL top team? Much harder question. Undoubtably, a lot of players will never amount to any kind of success on the professional level. If enough of the others that reach star status to make up for the scrubs, they could beat a NHL team.
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An easier way to do it then is to take a team from approximately 10 years ago and see how it stacks up to an NHL team today.

2005 was too stacked so let's look at 2006.

Steve Downie - Jonathan Toews - Andrew Cogliano
Blake Comeau - David Bolland - Benoit Pouliot
Tom Pyatt - Dustin Boyd - Kyle Chipchura
Guillaume Latendresse - Dan Bertram - Ryan O'Marra
Michael Blunden

Marc Staal - Kris Letang
Cam Barker - Luc Bourdon (RIP)
Ryan Parent - Kris Russell
Sasha Pokulok

Devan Dubnyk
Justin Pogge

I'm not so sure they'd be able to beat an NHL team either...
 
2004 would have a better shot at beating an NHL team today.

Brent Burns - Sidney Crosby - Jeff Carter
Mike Richards - Ryan Getzlaf - Maxime Talbot
Daniel Paille - Jeff Tambellini - Anthony Stewart
Jeremy Colliton - Stephen Dixon - Nigel Dawes
Tim Brent

Dion Phaneuf - Brent Seabrook
Braydon Coburn - Kevin Klein
Josh Gorges - Derek Meech
Shawn Belle

Marc-Andre Fleury
Josh Harding
 
Fish on The Sand said:
There's already been a good deal of justified mockery in this thread but I'm going to pile on.

The question asked is basically this: Is a team of players too young and not good enough for the NHL good enough to beat an NHL team?
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Indeed. Horvat, who was projected to be one of Canada's top centres if he had been released to the WJC by the canucks, is merely an average to good fourth line centre in the nhl at this point. Most of this Team Canada is significantly less nhl ready than Horvat.
 
Ovechking said:
The vast majority of these players, in just 1-2 years, will be playing in the NHL. They would certainly beat an ECHL team, and probably could beat many AHL teams. They would be slaughtered by every NHL team though.
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Where do people come up with this stuff? ECHL teams are made up of former high end junior players who are five years older bigger and smarter. If you don't comprehend how massive that is I guess it's excusable to think the way you do but let's be real. Team Canada usually plays pre tournament games against CIS teams and they usually win but sometimes they don't. This year's team was a lot better than an average team but the point stands.

WJHC teams literally wouldn't even touch the puck against an NHL team.
 
MrJonas said:
Edmonton would have a field day against the best junior team.
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okay now I'm not talking about Team Canada but best junior team(Memorial Cup Team) against last place NHL team? why if this is so overly impossible why do juniors step into an NHL lineup then like next year Connor McDavid and a lot others, all I know is when I watch Memorial Cup team every year they look good!!!!!!!!!!!
 
An NHL team would completely destroy not only a WJC Team Canada but an WJC All-Star team. Even the Sabres would.

darmitage said:
okay now I'm not talking about Team Canada but best junior team(Memorial Cup Team) against last place NHL team? why if this is so overly impossible why do juniors step into an NHL lineup then like next year Connor McDavid and a lot others, all I know is when I watch Memorial Cup team every year they look good!!!!!!!!!!!
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A Memorial Cup team has a few guys who will ever be in the NHL and maybe one who could play in the NHL right now. It'd be a bloodbath.
 
Rob Paxon said:
An NHL team would completely destroy not only a WJC Team Canada but an WJC All-Star team. Even the Sabres would.



A Memorial Cup team has a few guys who will ever be in the NHL and maybe one who could play in the NHL right now. It'd be a bloodbath.
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tell why you think? size, skill or what? because top junior teams in Canada look pretty good! I go to all Oshawa General games who are ranked #1 in Canada and they look fast! I love junior hockey finally Oshawa Generals are at the top, I would love to see them play Edmonton Oilers!!!!!

PS-I could be wrong about my opinion here but it sure looks that way
 
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darmitage said:
tell why you think? size, skill or what? because top junior teams in Canada look pretty good! I go to all Oshawa General games who are ranked #1 in Canada and they look fast! I love junior hockey finally Oshawa Generals are at the top, I would love to see them play Edmonton Oilers!!!!!
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They're teenagers and most of them aren't even close to ever being good enough for the NHL. Yes, there are teenagers in the NHL, but they are exceptions due to their immense talent. A CHL team has between 0-2 of those guys who could maybe hang in the NHL right now. Even those guys in the NHL as teenagers still are at a disadvantage from inferior strength and experience, which is why they don't start to enter their prime until their early 20's. Basically it'd be a team of guys currently good enough for the NHL (the NHL team) vs a team of teenagers with maybe 1 guy currently good enough for the NHL (the CHL team), 1 or 2 guys who will in the future be NHLers but aren't yet developed enough, and a few more who could maybe be NHLers if their career breaks the right way. Hockey can be a sport of luck or randomness in terms of the scoreboard, but the NHL team would be dominating possession and putting up three times as many shots at least.
 
Rob Paxon said:
They're teenagers and most of them aren't even close to ever being good enough for the NHL. Yes, there are teenagers in the NHL, but they are exceptions due to their immense talent. A CHL team has between 0-2 of those guys who could maybe hang in the NHL right now. Even those guys in the NHL as teenagers still are at a disadvantage from inferior strength and experience, which is why they don't start to enter their prime until their early 20's. Basically it'd be a team of guys currently good enough for the NHL (the NHL team) vs a team of teenagers with maybe 1 guy currently good enough for the NHL (the CHL team), 1 or 2 guys who will in the future be NHLers but aren't yet developed enough, and a few more who could maybe be NHLers if their career breaks the right way. Hockey can be a sport of luck or randomness in terms of the scoreboard, but the NHL team would be dominating possession and putting up three times as many shots at least.
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I'm an Oshawa Generals fan from Ontario Hockey League and the top junior teams I see play look pretty skillful and fast and sometimes wonder if they would give a last place NHL team a good run including my Toronto Maple Leafs
 
darmitage said:
I'm an Oshawa Generals fan from Ontario Hockey League and the top junior teams I see play look pretty skillful and fast and sometimes wonder if they would give a last place NHL team a good run including my Toronto Maple Leafs
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Not a chance. Buffalo would win by double digits.
 
Rob Paxon said:
They're teenagers and most of them aren't even close to ever being good enough for the NHL. Yes, there are teenagers in the NHL, but they are exceptions due to their immense talent. A CHL team has between 0-2 of those guys who could maybe hang in the NHL right now. Even those guys in the NHL as teenagers still are at a disadvantage from inferior strength and experience, which is why they don't start to enter their prime until their early 20's. Basically it'd be a team of guys currently good enough for the NHL (the NHL team) vs a team of teenagers with maybe 1 guy currently good enough for the NHL (the CHL team), 1 or 2 guys who will in the future be NHLers but aren't yet developed enough, and a few more who could maybe be NHLers if their career breaks the right way. Hockey can be a sport of luck or randomness in terms of the scoreboard, but the NHL team would be dominating possession and putting up three times as many shots at least.
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I'm sick of hearing juniors will never make NHL!!!!!!!!!!!!if that's the case where are the NHL players come from then????????????????
 
I think people are underestimating the juniors a little bit.

I don't think they can beat any NHL teams or even a good AHL team but if they had mackinon,ekblad,horvat and drouin im sure they could win a one off game against Edmonton or buffalo.
 
my question is if not many CHL juniors make NHL where are the NHL players coming from?????????
 
I can't wait until 2018 when we get the inevitable question about whether or not the Canadian women's olympic team could beat an AHL/KHL/SEL team and/or give a bad NHL team a tough game.

Every olympics it seems there's at least one poster who tries to advance that argument.
 
I once read in the Google Newspaper Archive about a preseason game between the St. Louis Blues and the Ottawa 67s, in the fall of 1968. Score was, like, 10-2, and article made it clear that game was not competitive at all (as in, the juniors shouldn't have been on the same ice as the adult pros!).
 
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