GDT: The Worst GDT Ever Again: Devils visit Rangers 3pm

[Wingman77]

Bottom of the league in scoring, middle of the pack in goals allowed (with Hedberg being awful for his stint).

Yep, Marty's fault.

Only scored one goal brah - he is such a problem

 

[Bleedred]

No more Bobby Butler signings of Tedenby from here on out. Cut out deadweight like Suckchenkov, Poni, and Clarkson if he wants more money.

Re sign D'ags for Poni's spot, and get a god damn top 6 guy. If not I'm really gonna think Lou either doesn't have it anymore or that the Hucksterbeek is really tight for cash. Too many boobs, geeks, and clowns were our answers to Parise, and Sykora. Not to mention the joke that was inviting Matheiu Darche to training camp. And Loktionov basically replaced Zajac's production.

As I've said I have no confidence in Pete playing our first round pick next year the right way if he is NHL ready. Same with Larsson, and the constant scratching of Fayne (Over Volchenkov really? really? really? really? He caused two goals today too!) This whole season was a mess.

 

[GentlemanOfLeisure]

Only one that can

Like TG said, what top 3 forward was available that Lou could have gotten?? Semin? Semin played for a contract, as soon as he got it, look what's happened. The biggest problem I had with Lou was not locking Parise us 2 years before he hit free agency. Once he was able to field other offers, it was a wrap.

Other GM's would have never let him get to that point.

 

[DevilChuk*]

Only scored one goal brah - he is such a problem

Our starting goalie is responsible for 1% of our offense..

and he missed half the season

 

[Traitor Zach]

Just because you watch the games, doesn't mean you have any grasp on what's going on.. clearly struggling in that department.

Videos please?

I'll just keep leaving this one important stat here though: LAST PLACE IN GOALS FOR IN THE LEAGUE.

Same goes for you bud. Apparently you only watch the Devils when they are on offense.

Keep chirping on and on about the same damn statistic THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT ALREADY!

Goaltending is a problem for this team. There's no argument against that fact. NONE.

 

[GentlemanOfLeisure]

huh

honestly have no idea what that means

You must be under 30

 

[R8Devs]

Ryan Whitney??? **** NO.

I'd like to take a run at Yandle out of Phoenix. Of course, in HF world, that'll cost 3 1st rounders, Larsson and a top prospect. So I'm not going to speculate on whether we could do it, though I'm inclined to believe we can.

Ryan Whitney can put up points and play on the PP and I would think his cap hit would be around 4.5mil.

Ryan Whitney is not great but PMD's are not easy to acquire and he is a UFA, not the best option but what can you do?

 

[KohoDonuts88]

Like TG said, what top 3 forward was available that Lou could have gotten?? Semin? Semin played for a contract, as soon as he got it, look what's happened. The biggest problem I had with Lou was not locking Parise us 2 years before he hit free agency. Once he was able to field other offers, it was a wrap.

Other GM's would have never let him get to that point.

Truth probably is, that was never an option. Zach was out the door. There were 2 options - trade him, which was unlikely... or, Lou could have gambled and NOT taken him to arbitration in his RFA year, and matched an offer sheet. But that's a dangerous game to play letting someone else dictate your finances like that.

 

[Traitor Zach]

If you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to keep your mouth shut so you don't look so foolish

If you think Marty is among our problems, well all that can be said really is Learn. The. Game. Seriously, it's an entertaining sport

This isn't the first time Marty has reacted this way (see when Robinson resigned) and the guy has every right to be pissed, Lou didn't have a great year and most of the team underachieved, notably guys we expected to count on heavily - that coupled in with him knowing how little time he has left and how he wants one more good run only to have a year like this thrown out the door

How about watching the game?

 

[DevilChuk*]

Same goes for you bud. Apparently you only watch the Devils when they are on offense.

Keep chirping on and on about the same damn statistic THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT ALREADY!

Goaltending is a problem for this team. There's no argument against that fact. NONE.

That'd mean I watch the Devils very little

Goaltending was far from THE problem this year. Yea, it wasn't perfect but you can put Lundqvist on this team and I don't think we're significantly better. Obviously could be improved, as it can be on 29 other teams.

heck, the Rangers had the same offensive stats we did up until the trade deadline.. and even with Lundqvist.. they were right where we are now.. on the outside looking in.

 

[NJDevs26]

Same goes for you bud. Apparently you only watch the Devils when they are on offense.

Keep chirping on and on about the same damn statistic THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT ALREADY!

Goaltending is a problem for this team. There's no argument against that fact. NONE.

'A' problem, okay I'll buy that considering Marty's 41 next year and Moose is also signed for another year. But people act like it's THE problem when it's not even first on the list. Or second.

They need to trim the fat on D, get a couple more scoring forwards and inject a little more youth elsewhere and Pete needs to shed a little bit of stubbornness pro some players and anti others, then maybe I'll worry about the goaltending.

 

[Bleedred]

Its quite astonishing. We screen Marty more and better then we screen the opposing teams goalie

I don't even see this team trying to screen the other teams goalie. Last time was on the Salvador goal in game 4 of the ECF. And a beautiful screen it was. So beautiful that just like our deflections we used up our one screen last playoffs for the entire season this year.

 

[aboriginal]

I think if we could get someone like Rundblad or Ryan Whitney than Zidlicky doesn't have to be resigned. But otherwise you're right we might have to sign him.

tally for rundblad and im on board. big daddy lars can have his chum to play with.

 

[Just Win]

Same goes for you bud. Apparently you only watch the Devils when they are on offense.

Keep chirping on and on about the same damn statistic THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT ALREADY!

Goaltending is a problem for this team. There's no argument against that fact. NONE.

Not a fact at all and capital letters won't change that either.

 

[NJDevs26]

That'd mean I watch the Devils very little

Goaltending was far from THE problem this year. Yea, it wasn't perfect but you can put Lundqvist on this team and I don't think we're significantly better. Obviously could be improved, as it can be on 29 other teams.

heck, the Rangers had the same offensive stats we did up until the trade deadline.. and even with Lundqvist.. they were right where we are now.. on the outside looking in.

Nashville had the same offensive numbers WITH Pekka Rinne 'and' Shea Weber, look how that's turned out. The Devils need offensive skill, period. Up front and on D, particularly up front.

 

[Wingman77]

How about watching the game?

I would definitely recommend doing so

 

[Traitor Zach]

That'd mean I watch the Devils very little

Goaltending was far from THE problem this year. Yea, it wasn't perfect but you can put Lundqvist on this team and I don't think we're significantly better. Obviously could be improved, as it can be on 29 other teams.

heck, the Rangers had the same offensive stats we did up until the trade deadline.. and even with Lundqvist.. they were right where we are now.. on the outside looking in.

It was one of the big problems this year. There's no denying it.

This team is absolutely in the playoffs with a Lundqvist goalie on a team that plays in a Deboer system. Not even a doubt about that.

I'm really not trying to bury Marty as I've loved him more than any sports player, but this laissez-faire approach to him has reached the endpoint for me.

 

[Traitor Zach]

I would definitely recommend doing so

Then why don't you do it? You clearly don't.

 

[Traitor Zach]

Not a fact at all and capital letters won't change that either.

Of course it is. You can deny it all you want, but it doesn't change it.

 

[Bleedred]

What goals today were Marty's fault? The first one I'm fine with giving him some blame. He just had to guess there, and covered the wrong side of the post. The second goal was a deflection, no chance unless you're a big wall of pads blimp that takes up the entire net.

The third goal he got burned bad to the glove side just like yesterday. Not really a soft goal, but by Marty's standards he usually stops those. Those were a problem for him during much of 10-11, and not just under Maclean but throughout the whole season. Though his glove hand has been pretty solid since the start of last season.

The fourth goal there was really no reason for him to try and poke check the puck from that far out. I could give him some of the blame there, but the old Marty does that too. The old Marty also flops early for no reason and tries the highlight reel two pad stack, and did even back in 93. I remember it getting me mad back then. That has more to do with Marty's way of playing then his age though his recovery time doesn't look very good. In fact his recovery time has been bad since coming back from injury.

 

[R8Devs]

tally for rundblad and im on board. big daddy lars can have his chum to play with.

That would be awesome if we could get him at a price like that but I'm thinking Matteau and a draft pick might have to be traded to get him. His stats in the AHL are pretty good.

 

[Traitor Zach]

Nashville had the same offensive numbers WITH Pekka Rinne 'and' Shea Weber, look how that's turned out. The Devils need offensive skill, period. Up front and on D, particularly up front.

Rinne is a Vezina caliber goalie.

 

[GentlemanOfLeisure]

Truth probably is, that was never an option. Zach was out the door. There were 2 options - trade him, which was unlikely... or, Lou could have gambled and NOT taken him to arbitration in his RFA year, and matched an offer sheet. But that's a dangerous game to play letting someone else dictate your finances like that.

Well Ray Shero was told by Staal that he wasnt going to re-sign that he wanted to explore his options and become a UFA after his contract ended. IN other words he wanted out of Pittsburgh. So Shero traded him at the draft and got good value for him. Lou should have done the same with Parise. Lou probably approached Zach around the 2011 draft and got a similar speech from his agent. Would we have gotten to the finals last year had Lou traded Parise at the 2011 draft? Probably not. But would we be in this position with a complete lack of forward depth in the organization ? Probably not.


The policy of not negotiating during the season too is utter nonsense. Especially since you've broken this rule for Brodeur before. I love Lou, I think its time for him to step aside and become team president and let another GM come in. Assuming it's someone good (Burke).

 

[Traitor Zach]

What goals today were Marty's fault? The first one I'm fine with giving him some blame. He just had to guess there, and covered the wrong side of the post. The second goal was a deflection, no chance unless you're a big wall of pads blimp that takes up the entire net.

The third goal he got burned bad to the glove side just like yesterday. Not really a soft goal, but by Marty's standards he usually stops those. Those were a problem for him during much of 10-11, and not just under Maclean but throughout the whole season. Though his glove hand has been pretty solid since the start of last season.

The fourth goal there was really no reason for him to try and poke check the puck from that far out. I could give him some of the blame there, but the old Marty does that too. The old Marty also flops early for no reason and tries the highlight reel two pad stack, and did even back in 93. I remember it getting me mad back then. That has more to do with Marty's way of playing then his age though his recovery time doesn't look very good. In fact his recovery time has been bad since coming back from injury.

Do you of all people honestly believe that Guy Boucher would accept this kind of goalie play.

I thought I saw Lindback in there for a couple of those saves today.

 

[Wingman77]

Then why don't you do it? You clearly don't.

I guess watching Marty give up just 25 goals while his team only scored 16 during a 10 game losing streak and managing to keep his GAA under 2.16 was not real life? Was it aliens? I mean becuz I clearly don't watch deese here hockey games