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The Vancouver Media Thread | Part VIII

Brough had a fun revisionist moment today saying “The Canucks were never Cup Contenders”.

Which was funny because last year during the WCF guys on Halford/Brough kept saying: "if we got past Edm, we'd have beat Dallas”.



Brough also questioning tribalism in the fanbase re: Pro/Anti Pettersson camps. Yet seem to be blind to his role in creating said tribalism by droning on about the guy for the majority of his show, 5 days a week for the past year. But don’t think about calling him out for it or you’re the one whose too entrenched in their camp.
 
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When did Jeff Patterson acquire a lisp?

Him and 300 pound Sekeres piling on. They hate the team.
Don't be mixed up with the team and LOSING. It isn't the team, it is the LOSING.
Media is negative because there's not a single positive thing surrounding the team lately?
How posting what is happening, not hoping, becomes negative is a result of understanding.
The media here aren’t hockey players. They are either entertainment, as hosts of radio shows, or they’re long time print reporters. But they really have never been in an nhl room or even a junior one. Heck can any of those guys even skate?
650 does have ex players as guests. And those guys do know. When they talk, providing they aren’t working for a club or trying to get an nhl job, then it’s insightful. I love listening to Janik Hansen. He tells it like it is, and from a player’s perspective. O’Brien is good too. He’s honest. As for the hosts; they’re only concerned with keeping their jobs.
Most of the media are dependent upon the NHL or team's for employment in this city. In places where there is less media ownership they can be less team biased. An example, Toronto.

The media here in Vancouver go to great lengths to support the team suppressing, censoring and editing most "behind" the scene's or what is really happening and support the most idiotic narratives.

Currently a narrative out here is it takes 8 year to do a proper rebuild, mean while the TO media laments the scorched earth Shanaplan that resulted in going to the playoffs. The TO media post and then it is carried here;

Shanahan’s 11-year run began with a scorched-earth rebuild in 2014.

“While I am proud of the rebuild we embarked on starting in 2014, ultimately, I came here to help win the Stanley Cup, and we did not. There is nothing more I wanted to deliver to our fans, and my biggest regret is that we could not finish the job,” Shanahan said in a statement.

But owned media, marketing posters and some fanatics will ignore and push the fallacy of a rebuild to the most NEGATIVE of possibilities. Most of the content is all about instant gratification, now for get tomorrow, forget how the Canucks have got some of the very best players this franchise has ever had. They constantly select the worst possible outcomes. NEGATIVITY.

I think the fact they have a captive audience, no other choice for local sports news, one radio station.
Then the local media guys select the most negative social media output and enhance that negativity, but fail to point out that negativity is about the team losing and the repeated decisions that have resulted in the same outcomes.

IMO the negativity offered up by the owned media is the STERN effect, hate what is said but can't wait to hear what is said. They take on the role of representing the fans knowing that most aren't that way.
Only the most passionate fans throw away $200+ jersey's, hire planes to fly banners, spend 10's of thousands on sets and sit at home instead of going. But those people get ridiculed and called team haters.

Sometimes posting the standings is turned into being a hater. The standings are the ultimate measuring stick of success.

I post that Quinn Hughes originally signed his contract taking him to FA, BIG negative but when he signed it was news about the end. They had 6 years to build a winner. I post that while in his family's home right after his brother Luke was drafted Quinn made the comment not too much paraphrasing here, "I can't wait until we can play together". This was denied for years until just recently as being negative, now some of those stories that praised that signing come back, the term of the contract and possible outcome.

Even when stated almost outright by the team that he might go, think on that because no team goes out and says it is out of their hands unless they know, there are a lot of media and posters refusing to listen or try very hard to re-write four simple words, "out of our hands".

Dhali often bemoans twitter post, I don't twitters very often and only follow a few select twitter accounts but he measures how many are listening by counting how many people they can piss off, the Stern effect.
 
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we need more journalists to be honest. but it takes extra courage to invest your life into any form of a writing career now. Its such a sad state of affairs, writing and art are under extreme pressure thanks to generative AI.
I agree. Just thinking that if he's staying in the sports realm, is there much of a need to pay the tuition plus the opportunity cost of going to school for it to pay off? Is he going to become the next Rick Westhead or something?
 
Don't be mixed up with the team and LOSING. It isn't the team, it is the LOSING.

How posting what is happening, not hoping, becomes negative is a result of understanding.

Most of the media are dependent upon the NHL or team's for employment in this city. In places where there is less media ownership they can be less team biased. An example, Toronto.

The media here in Vancouver go to great lengths to support the team suppressing, censoring and editing most "behind" the scene's or what is really happening and support the most idiotic narratives.

Currently a narrative out here is it takes 8 year to do a proper rebuild, mean while the TO media laments the scorched earth Shanaplan that resulted in going to the playoffs. The TO media post and then it is carried here;

Shanahan’s 11-year run began with a scorched-earth rebuild in 2014.

“While I am proud of the rebuild we embarked on starting in 2014, ultimately, I came here to help win the Stanley Cup, and we did not. There is nothing more I wanted to deliver to our fans, and my biggest regret is that we could not finish the job,” Shanahan said in a statement.

But owned media, marketing posters and some fanatics will ignore and push the fallacy of a rebuild to the most NEGATIVE of possibilities. Most of the content is all about instant gratification, now for get tomorrow, forget how the Canucks have got some of the very best players this franchise has ever had. They constantly select the worst possible outcomes. NEGATIVITY.

I think the fact they have a captive audience, no other choice for local sports news, one radio station.
Then the local media guys select the most negative social media output and enhance that negativity, but fail to point out that negativity is about the team losing and the repeated decisions that have resulted in the same outcomes.

IMO the negativity offered up by the owned media is the STERN effect, hate what is said but can't wait to hear what is said. They take on the role of representing the fans knowing that most aren't that way.
Only the most passionate fans throw away $200+ jersey's, hire planes to fly banners, spend 10's of thousands on sets and sit at home instead of going. But those people get ridiculed and called team haters.

Sometimes posting the standings is turned into being a hater. The standings are the ultimate measuring stick of success.

I post that Quinn Hughes originally signed his contract taking him to FA, BIG negative but when he signed it was news about the end. They had 6 years to build a winner. I post that while in his family's home right after his brother Luke was drafted Quinn made the comment not too much paraphrasing here, "I can't wait until we can play together". This was denied for years until just recently as being negative, now some of those stories that praised that signing come back, the term of the contract and possible outcome.

Even when stated almost outright by the team that he might go, think on that because no team goes out and says it is out of their hands unless they know, there are a lot of media and posters refusing to listen or try very hard to re-write four simple words, "out of our hands".

Dhali often bemoans twitter post, I don't twitters very often and only follow a few select twitter accounts but he measures how many are listening by counting how many people they can piss off, the Stern effect.
Yup. Don’t follow the owners plan and say goodbye to your job. That goes for media, coaches, and management. And it could mean not getting another job connected to the nhl.
 
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I agree. Just thinking that if he's staying in the sports realm, is there much of a need to pay the tuition plus the opportunity cost of going to school for it to pay off? Is he going to become the next Rick Westhead or something?

He doesn't have to stay in sports journalism. Fully possible he obtained a scholarship as well.
 
Yup. Don’t follow the owners plan and say goodbye to your job. That goes for media, coaches, and management. And it could mean not getting another job connected to the nhl.
This has been happening for a decade longer than the Aquilini's
When Bettman testified that the NHL is one entity and there is no competition between the teams.
This is in public court records during the Arizona bankruptcy proceedings, while under oath.

Bettman is no dummy, even Brian Burke advocated for media censorship and control.
The business plan is everyone sells any team and it is good for the league, team, market and media personalities, they all make more money being cheerleaders and supporting the teams regardless of efficiency.

Owners make money, all of them, if US markets pick up getting more US TV money, franchise values increase and US teams are winners.
The competition for the sports dollar is intense in most of the US, Colleges, basket ball, Football and Baseball.

In Canada hockey rules, TO has a basket ball and baseball teams but the rest of the nations is basically the NHL team and 2nd or 3rd the CFL and Soccer. Junior teams draw pretty well too.
Canadian teams pretty much fill arenas regardless of records and with the loser point it makes most teams look hugely better than they really are.

The business plan is there and been operating for decades. One for all and all for the one.
 

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