Blue Jays Discussion: The trade deadline has passed. Time to see what this can do (most acquisitions expected to be present Thursday in Minnesota)

[Suntouchable13]

Honestly, I'll keep Zimmer over JBJ. Neither of them is actually any good, and the team has enough better OF options that neither will ever really start any games. So I want whoever provides the most value in the niche pinch-running/defensive replacement role, and that's very clearly Zimmer (similar defensive value and JBJ is slow).

Zimmer will be Dalton Pompey of 2022.

 

[Eyedea]

I don't know if a straight platoon is such a good idea. Santi provides gold glove level D over there, and that's valuable.

FWIW Biggio’s been every bit as good at 2B this season.

 

[Discoverer]

FWIW Biggio’s been every bit as good at 2B this season.

I haven't looked at the numbers recently, but his defense has looked excellent - definitely better than in previous years, when he was just ok.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Springer's injury woes are frustrating and I can't help but wonder if he's part of the problem.

It feels like everything he's suffered are relatively minor ailments but further aggravated by him not sitting out long enough.

The hamstring in particular last year felt like that.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I like it when athletes want to be out there and play. He didn’t come here to just collect a paycheque.

 

[hoc123]

Springer's injury woes are frustrating and I can't help but wonder if he's part of the problem.

It feels like everything he's suffered are relatively minor ailments but further aggravated by him not sitting out long enough.

The hamstring in particular last year felt like that.

To be fair to Springer, based on how management is talking about the injury, it doesn’t sound like something that can be fixed much by rest. Might make it more manageable for a bit but it seems like something he will have to deal with until he gets surgery on it.

 

[Da Cool Rula]

A Philipmike favourite.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Battle Royale/diamond dynasty legend Didi Gregorius

 

[phillipmike]

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A Philipmike favourite.

Unfortunately no room for him now unless there is an injury.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Canada4Gold]

Is there a order for teams to claim dfa'd or first come first serve ?

DFA's don't automatically go on waivers. Team has 10 days to trade, waiver or release them. If they go on waivers then the order is worse to best records in the same league, then worst to best record in the other league

 

[trellaine201]

Jackie has been let go. Free to sign anywhere.

 

[tmlms13]

If any GM were truly paying attention. Joey Gallo would have been a great trade target. He's a UFA so should be a high FA target too but players obviously resign with the team that traded for him more often than other teams.....

Why am I saying this?

Next year MLB is banning the shift. Joey Gallo is the most famous player for getting shifted on and still hitting right into it. He's going to see a big bump in his batting average.

If I was Shatkins I would go out and sign all the players who get the infield shift put on them a lot.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Eyedea]

If any GM were truly paying attention. Joey Gallo would have been a great trade target. He's a UFA so should be a high FA target too but players obviously resign with the team that traded for him more often than other teams.....

Why am I saying this?

Next year MLB is banning the shift. Joey Gallo is the most famous player for getting shifted on and still hitting right into it. He's going to see a big bump in his batting average.

If I was Shatkins I would go out and sign all the players who get the infield shift put on them a lot.

He has to actually get the ball in play to hit in the shift, no?

 

[tmlms13]

He has to actually get the ball in play to hit in the shift, no?

One step at a time.....

 

[as Pure as Evil]

DFA's don't automatically go on waivers. Team has 10 days to trade, waiver or release them. If they go on waivers then the order is worse to best records in the same league, then worst to best record in the other league

Thanks for clarifying its appreciated


If a player is a waiver trade after the deadline would that restrict said player from the playoff roster or do they still have that post season deadline mid august

 

[Eyedea]

Probably because I've seen more of them, but the Yankees to me seem to have the most guys that get actively shifted on. Judge, Stanton, Rizzo, Donaldson. Surprisingly they're pretty far down the list and it's actually the Rangers that get shifted on the most, with Semien and Seager being top 5 in PAs vs the shift. Jays already see the fewest in the league and are the best at hitting against them (T-1st with Dodgers).

 

[phillipmike]

Jackie has been let go. Free to sign anywhere.

Best comment i saw was Donaldson will be sweating if the Yankees acquired Bradley. Is he allowed to call him Jackie?

 

[phillipmike]

Which Teams Improved the Most at the Trade Deadline?

After the Padres, that is.

blogs.fangraphs.com

According to Fangraphs, the Jays odds to win the division, make the playoffs and win the World Series all increased by very slim margins;

Jays Odds Before the Deadline:
Division: 3.1%
Playoffs: 94.9%
World Series: 5.9%

Jays Odds After the Deadline:
Division: 3.2%
Playoffs: 95.9%
World Series: 6.1%

Jays Playoff Odds on Aug 4th:
2022: 96.6%
2021: 38.7%
2020: 20.3% (62.7% around the same way into a 60 game season)
2019: 0.0%
2018: 0.0%
2017: 5.9%
2016: 85.0%
2015: 65.9%
2014: 40.7%

 

[Kurtz]

JBJ's drop off as a hitter for the past 2 years is quite astonishing. As is Drury's remarkable turnaround since leaving the Jays.

I guess it's true what they say: hitting is voodoo

 

[Eyedea]

I thought this was cool. SSS but if the slider generates more whiffs he could honestly become our Clay Holmes

Statcast Pitch Arsenal Stats

Baseball Savant

baseballsavant.mlb.com

 

[The Nemesis]

If any GM were truly paying attention. Joey Gallo would have been a great trade target. He's a UFA so should be a high FA target too but players obviously resign with the team that traded for him more often than other teams.....

Why am I saying this?

Next year MLB is banning the shift. Joey Gallo is the most famous player for getting shifted on and still hitting right into it. He's going to see a big bump in his batting average.

If I was Shatkins I would go out and sign all the players who get the infield shift put on them a lot.

There's no certainty MLB is banning the shift. There's been discussion about them considering adding restrictions to shifting, but nothing about them stapling players to the traditional defensive alignment locations. I also expect that nothing significant would come as soon as next season since they likely would still want to roll out larger, longer, and more controlled test on shift-restriction options across MiLB before signing off on tinkering with the big league game.

Someone with as extreme batted ball profile as Gallo (who hits an ungodly high number of balls to basically within range of all but the most immobile 1Bs and RFs) will probably still be shiftable even within restrictions imposed by MLB simply because he's so predictable. This isn't a guy who's spraying the ball everywhere between 1st and 2nd. He tends to fire it low and within 15 feet of the 1st base line with incredible regularity.

Also, neutering the shift won't help him when he's also striking out basically 40% of the time and his hard hit % has plummeted by like 10-15% and been replaced with soft contact line-outs and non-HR fly balls. Him being able to poke the occasional worm-killer through the right side isn't going to fix that.

 

[The Nemesis]

Thanks for clarifying its appreciated


If a player is a waiver trade after the deadline would that restrict said player from the playoff roster or do they still have that post season deadline mid august

there's only one trade deadline now. The waiver trade deadline in August is toast.

 

[MS]

If you consider De Jesus and Frasso to be pretty even prospects - which certainly appears to be the case - we basically picked up an MLB starting pitcher with 5.5 years of control for a relief pitcher in Dominican rookie ball, which is crazy value.