I can see MG letting guys like Malhotra, Ebbett and Higgins walk. If Luongo is still around, Ballard has to be on the chopping block to make cap room. With Raymond and Booth back in the line-up, Higgins becomes expendable and there's not going to be any wriggle room cap-wise. Either Lapierre or Malhotra will be signed, not both. Raymond will be signed over Higgins most likely. All the other UFA's will probably be cut loose. Schroeder will be the third line C. Of course, at this point who knows who will be on LTIR to start next season.
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I'd keep Higgins over Raymond. It would be a no brainier for me. Lots of people undervalue the defensive game, and cause Higgins isn't producing, people throw him under the bus. Its kind of like Hansen. I still have no idea why people would put Hansen on the 4th line, some even forget him in the lineup at times. Don't get me wrong, I think Raymond would make a great bottom six, but I still wouldn't pay him to be on the top six. Higgins will be better value for the price and role.
It's been two games, and Raymond turned from scapegoat to hero. I think this changes once Kesler is back. Unless playmaker Kesler shows up.
This is silly because its not higgins or raymond IMO. Though if i were to choose and higgins came cheaper, it'd be a no brainer and given what i think raymond may demand if he has a decent season.
With ballard, malhotra and luongo gone. There is room for raymond, higgins and lapierre.. may have to keep weise as an extra man. which is fine because theres always injuries
thats the kind of team you want, that deep where a guy as decent as weise is an extra man. Higgins and Hansen FTW. Love these guys together and hope we get another season or two out of them together.
I hope MG has the balls to cut the fat to fit the good players in and we wont lose anyone of value. Malhotra and Ballard better be gone. I like them both but has to happen
With ballard, malhotra and luongo gone. There is room for raymond, higgins and lapierre.. may have to keep weise as an extra man. which is fine because theres always injuries
thats the kind of team you want, that deep where a guy as decent as weise is an extra man. Higgins and Hansen FTW. Love these guys together and hope we get another season or two out of them together.
I hope MG has the balls to cut the fat to fit the good players in and we wont lose anyone of value. Malhotra and Ballard better be gone. I like them both but has to happen
It's kind of unrealistic that the team finds a way to unload Ballard and Luongo, or even Booth without thinking of getting any roster players in return. Cap is going to be a lot tighter than you think. It's about giving players roles and pay them for where they should play.
Getting a big 3rd line center to replace, the once was, Malholtra is key. IMO, team would be crazy to have Schroeder and Lappiere as the 3rd and 4th centers.
I think many have established that Hank, Dank, Kassian, Kesler, Burrows make up 5/6 of the top six.
I dont think so, i could easily unload ballard for a pick. Thats a no brainer. Even if i couldn't (which would never happen). I would waive him. What you get in his salary is a win. I dont care if it doesn't look good on your resume. Losing two guys because of one guy is dumb.
And i've always wanted top prospects for luongo, hell even one real good prospect. Or a good player and a prospect. Then i wouldn't care about trading away somebody. Take higgins, raymond, as long as the guy was better and not much more in salary.
We can trade luongo and not add back salary because if we were to add a player in that trade (which i dont even care if we do but MG seems to want a roster player), we'd need to get rid of a player. THEN the player we would require would just replace raymond, higgins or whoever. Until then, sign them
im just talking about if we dont get a roster player. because i can't say who i wouldn't sign without knowing what player we're getting back
and dont know their cap hit either. lol so lets just pretend like we're not getting a roster player back and theyll just replace whoever i keep yeah my point is, we're not adding salary on that trade, we're replacing.
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A bit too early into the season to give this any proper analysis. Assuming all positives, Higgins, Lapierre and Raymond are likely to be resigned. Ballard is the most likely buyout candidate but I have my suspicions Booth will not be here long term - either to make room for Jensen, an acquisition from the Luongo deal or simply by virtue of poor play. Unless Higgins completely falls apart this season or is overpaid on the market. We would be foolish to let him walk.
sedin-sedin-jensen (they finally have a big sniper)
booth-kesler-kassian (2 shooters and a playmaker)
raymond-schroeder-burrows
weise-lapierre-hansen
volpatti
all pretty balanced lines and affordable.
booth-kesler-kassian (2 shooters and a playmaker)
raymond-schroeder-burrows
weise-lapierre-hansen
volpatti
all pretty balanced lines and affordable.
Disappointing that we aren't seeing more of MG's draft picks in the discussion of making next year's roster.
No mention of Yann Sauve, his 1st Dman pick
2009 draft class of Schroeder, Rodin, KConn
2010 - top pick in McNally. No word on what he's doing for hockey since getting kicked out of Harvard for the season.
Need to see some youngsters complete for the bottom 6 that the team drafted from rounds 3 onwards.
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Re-sign...Schroeder, Weise, Raymond, Tanev.
Re-sign if they don`t ask for too much money...Malhotra, Lapierre, Higgins
Don`t re-sign...Volpatti, Barker, Ebbett
In limbo...Pinizotto
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His first round picks have been absolutely solid. His mid-to-late round picks leave something to be desired but McNally and Corrado have shown some promise.
I think his mid-to-late round picks are underrated actually. Based on past stats, getting 2-3 good AHLers from a draft is good, getting 1 full-time NHLer is better, getting 2 full-time NHLers would be considered excellent.
If you look at 2009, we have Schroeder, Rodin, Connnauton, Andersson, and Cannata playing/played in the AHL. Jeremy Price looks like he will clearly make the AHL too. That's 6 out of 7 that year. Schroeder looks like a clear NHLer at this point. Andersson and Cannata, IMO, have both NHL potential and are showing it this season. Connauton is probably a career AHLer.
We didn't have that many picks in 2010, but McNally looks good right now even if he's not playing at the moment. I do think Polasek has #7/#8 upside so also a marginal NHLer.
2011: Jensen is a future 2nd liner, at the very least. Blomstrand, LaBate, and Corrado are going to be at least AHLers. With Corrado showing clear upside for the NHL. Blomstrand was a pick that was heavily criticized at the time and now look at him...
I think people around here need to give these drafts more time to show results. A year ago Andersson was considered a bust and it turns out he was just being mishanded in Sweden and is now one of the best D in Chicago. Schroeder was considered a bust based solely on his stats.
I stand by my past statement that this team's drafting and prospect pool has been completely undermined by the 2006 and 2007 drafts. Outside of Grabner we didn't even get a single AHLer.
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Depends on the return in the goalie trade. If there is a decent forward coming back I'd be flipping higgins or raymond to phoenix, carolina or pittsburgh for d prospects. Ballard will be easy to trade with the severe shortage of d.
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Actually he he does fit into our system - usually with Tanev has his partner. Was one of our better D in the Kings playoff series (so it's a continuation of his acceptable play). Problem is, for that role, he's far too expensive a luxory item. On a "bad team", they can afford to give him 'top four minutes' and of course, his cap hit will seem far more reasonable.
Hey, I've got a question about Ballard, Does the buyout rule allow us to buyout Ballard - Taking away his cap hit, then resigning him to a lower deal? If it is possible i think it would a great idea to see if he would be willing to take a pay cut, seeing as he already would receive his previous contract, and let us keep him chemistry with Tanev. Thanks!
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Problem would be that you have to waive him before you can buy him out. And odds are that he gets picked up, and that team isn't going to buy him out. End of the day, we lose a player we wanted to keep, and get nothing in return.
I was considering the same thing, but I think that's the main roadblock. In reality, nobody can get bought out if at least one team in the league feels he's worth his salary.
Development time is taking longer for the picks taken in the first 3 rounds. Do the picks have promise. Yes.
Breaking it down, the 2008 draft class will all turn 23 or 24 in 2013. That's at least 3 years of pro. They should be competing for a roster spot next season.
2009 draft class, they turn 22 or 23 in 2013. 2 years pro for most of them. Again, like to see them compete for a spot.
2010 draft class, even with draft picks, they would be borderline to make the roster. 2010 picks are just starting their pro careers this season.
Whether it's Sauve, KConn, Anderson, whomever, the Nucks need to get younger and cheaper on the backend. $18.5 million on the top 4 already. Need to dump Ballard's $4.25 million and ideally replace him with a drafted player.
Ballard will never be a 3/4th D on this team. With Ballard and Luongo traded, we have the cap space to hang onto Raymond, Higgins, Lappy and all the RFA's. I think Maholtra walks unless he accepts a really low cap hit. They will need to find someone to partner with Tanev.
Hey Tiranis what's the scouting report on Andersson? Any chance he could play top 6 with Tanev next year?
Kevin Connuton.......he would make a third pairing with a offensive threat plus he can skate well........
You have to wait one full year before you can offer a contract to a player that you buy out.
If they didn't do that, then you could amnesty buy out a superstar on your team, then get them to re-sign to a greatly reduced cap hit since they would still be paid from their bought out contract.
I definitely think that Malhotra and one of Higgins/Raymond will sign elsewhere in the off-season. There just isn't room for them.
I also think that Ballard will have to be moved for cap purposes and that Connauton might get a chance to make the team as a 7th d-man.
And I would love to see Pinizzotto finally get a chance to play with the Canucks.
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Chris Higgins ($2.350m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.250m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.650m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.250m) / Dale Weise ($0.725m)
Steve Pinizzotto ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Alexander Edler ($5.000m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Kevin Connauton ($0.750m) / Chris Tanev ($1.250m)
GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,445,000; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $3,855,000
That leaves almost $4 mil to sign 2 more d-men.
(this also doesn't include any roster players we might get in return for Luongo and possibly Ballard)
If Raymond continues to have a good season, I could definitely see him testing free agency as there would be a few teams that would offer him much more than the Canucks would.
I also think that Ballard will have to be moved for cap purposes and that Connauton might get a chance to make the team as a 7th d-man.
And I would love to see Pinizzotto finally get a chance to play with the Canucks.
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Chris Higgins ($2.350m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.250m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.650m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.250m) / Dale Weise ($0.725m)
Steve Pinizzotto ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Alexander Edler ($5.000m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Kevin Connauton ($0.750m) / Chris Tanev ($1.250m)
GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,445,000; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $3,855,000
That leaves almost $4 mil to sign 2 more d-men.
(this also doesn't include any roster players we might get in return for Luongo and possibly Ballard)
If Raymond continues to have a good season, I could definitely see him testing free agency as there would be a few teams that would offer him much more than the Canucks would.
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