The struggles of Crosby, Kunitz, Hornqvist, and Perron
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cassius
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It's even worse when the "trailer" is always inevitably Rob Scuderi or some offensively inept player.
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Ogrezilla
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There is no better way to defend against us than to force the play through Rob Scuderi. Seriously, that has to be something other teams actively try to force us to do.
Son Goku
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HuskerTornado
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Malkin in long scoring drought, Crosby struggling, Perron also in a long, long scoring drought. Probably nothing to do with coaching/lineup/system. Probably.
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I don't know if this is confirmation bias on my part, but I watch a LOT of hockey, and whenever I watch non-Penguins teams, I'm always amazed at the space available. When the Pens are playing, teams just collapse against certain areas of the ice and, well, we know the rest.
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vodeni
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this is the twilight zone territory, It would be interesting to see how many scoring chances he and his team mates (that could have resulted in points) had during these 18 games.
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Ogrezilla
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Kessel is really the only big threat to get a real dangerous shot from any distance beyond the dots, isn't he? Not that Sid and Geno can't make those shots, but they don't.
I believe it. I was raging at how many chances he was getting.
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What a terrible image.
Nah, the better way is to force the play through Scuderi and completely ignore Kunitz, too.
One doesn't know what to do and the other can't be bothered to even try. There's a reason Scuderi is always open as the trailer and always free to intentionally shoot it wide.
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Geno is a shadow of his first few years in the league, which thankfully is still pretty darn good, but it's always something with him. There's always some reason or excuse he's simply not putting up the numbers that are expected. I was a huge defender for a long while, but these droughts are killers. As Madden alluded to in Twitter today, we need both he and Crosby fully operational or this is all pointless.
A large part of the blame is on Geno but I also prescribe to the old argument that he needs to play and play a lot. Rolling four lines in a dedicated fashion, Geno going a long time without a shift due to a few PKs, etc is a bad idea. He should finish with 20+ minutes a night without fail I think
A large part of the blame is on Geno but I also prescribe to the old argument that he needs to play and play a lot. Rolling four lines in a dedicated fashion, Geno going a long time without a shift due to a few PKs, etc is a bad idea. He should finish with 20+ minutes a night without fail I think
I would love to see Geno traded. Too many times he has stretches similar to this where he just looks disinterested. Remember when he skipped training camp last year due to a convenient injury? The injury was apparently to his work ethic.
Maybe he turns into the player everyone thinks he is if he gets a change of scenery. Here's hoping......
This team has a ton of issues right now. I don't know how many get solved by trading Malkin, but I'd sure like to find out.
Maybe he turns into the player everyone thinks he is if he gets a change of scenery. Here's hoping......
This team has a ton of issues right now. I don't know how many get solved by trading Malkin, but I'd sure like to find out.
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UnderratedBrooks44
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Not to bring up Madden again but this whole 'Geno skipped training camp' is a baseless Madden creation. Johnston even said after the first game last year that he was thankful that Geno decided he would give it a go. Was that part of the conspiracy?
That's.......not exactly........what I said.
I think trading Malkin makes us much deeper and hopefully we get a sold D in the exchange so it probably makes us better on both halves of the ice. It would be a wildly unpopular move, but so was trading John Cullen back in the day.
Moot point, nobody in this organization has what it takes to make a trade like that.
Much like the folks who defend his performance in the playoffs last season due to an injury. Oddly enough, that injury didn't stop him from going directly to the WC's and playing fairly well.
Jacob
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I'm not against trading anyone but you don't win a trade where you give up the best player involved in the deal. Also, it'd leave a gaping hole in our lineup.
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None of that changes anything in terms of one guy speculating based on nothing that Malkin skipped camp.
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tom_servo
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It'll probably be a long time before I'd consider trading one of these guys (87 or 71). They've been consistently good for too long, and they're not that old. Besides, I don't trust JR or whoever to make it work (the market for a $9.5M 30-year-old in a cap world is not huge). I'd rather just be married to the players/contracts and hope to find the right chemistry again.
Ogrezilla
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again, the entire team has slumped for 30 or so games now. Geno's is worse, but its certainly not a coincidence that him, Sid, Perron and pretty much everyone are all struggling to score. The system we run just isn't good. Should Geno be able to put up some points regardless? Absolutely. He isn't absolved of responsibility. But its not just him.
You know what you do before you trade a generational talent like Evgeni Malkin? You fire your entire ****ing idiotic coaching staff, and you surround him with legitimate wingers. We have the ability to do both, but refuse to do so.
If you're in favor of trading a guy who is at any given moment the best player in the world, and you think we'd be a better team for it, you're beyond help. Hang up your keyboard, it's time to retire from the forums.
If you're in favor of trading a guy who is at any given moment the best player in the world, and you think we'd be a better team for it, you're beyond help. Hang up your keyboard, it's time to retire from the forums.
