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I don't regrrt having hornqvist but that day if I'm jr I do everything possible to get him without giving up Neal.
The struggles of Crosby, Kunitz, Hornqvist, and Perron
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I don't regrrt having hornqvist but that day if I'm jr I do everything possible to get him without giving up Neal.
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I see crosby making his swoops from his zone to attack but no defender on this team can actually hit him
Clean in stride. Crosby is still fast. (Maybe not quite 22 years old anymore) but the speed is still there
Clean in stride. Crosby is still fast. (Maybe not quite 22 years old anymore) but the speed is still there
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Lol.Aren't Sens one of Malkin's better matchups either?Remember how people talked about Plots-M-H line after the preseason game against TBL.
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chemistry is not nearly as big of an issue as a terrible coaching scheme. I love Neal, but I just any reason why he'd be immune to the systemic problems that are killing the offense of every player on the team.
Malkin with Perron and Hornqvist has been phenomenal since they've been put together. I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise.
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Well... as predicted the big X-factor was getting Perron and Malkin on the same page. Having Perron on his natural side helps him out a lot, too. Hornqvist was never doing anything wrong, he just wasn't providing the element Malkin needs to work the puck around and help open up space and create confusion... usually for the opposing team.
I was extremely encouraged by what I saw between those two (Malkin/Perron) in particular, last night. And as we saw with Sid last season... Perron and Hornqvist simply work together well as a wing duo, as well. It's an idea that should have been stuck with in the first place, regardless of which line they were going to use them with.
I was extremely encouraged by what I saw between those two (Malkin/Perron) in particular, last night. And as we saw with Sid last season... Perron and Hornqvist simply work together well as a wing duo, as well. It's an idea that should have been stuck with in the first place, regardless of which line they were going to use them with.
Yeah. A couple of us were more set on wing duos than who would center what wingers.
Perron and Hornqvist should be a lock together, on either Sid or Geno's line. Now we just have to find the guy opposite Kessel. Maybe Bennett. Maybe Plotnikov. Maybe Bonino. Maybe Fehr.
There's a ton of possibilities, and none of them involve Kunitz in the top-9, let alone top-6. That's what makes it so ****ing infuriating to see him on Sid's wing.
Perron and Hornqvist should be a lock together, on either Sid or Geno's line. Now we just have to find the guy opposite Kessel. Maybe Bennett. Maybe Plotnikov. Maybe Bonino. Maybe Fehr.
There's a ton of possibilities, and none of them involve Kunitz in the top-9, let alone top-6. That's what makes it so ****ing infuriating to see him on Sid's wing.
They were last night, but I didn't think too highly of the line in the other periods they got together.
That said something just clicked for them as a line yesterday. If they can keep that up, we're gold.
I think it's more Perron-Hornqvist that clicks, and it'll click with whatever center they play with.
I'd still like to see Geno get a shot with Kessel.
I'd still like to see Geno get a shot with Kessel.
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And I'd like to see Sid work with Perron and Hornqvist.
I don't see Sid and Kessel having the Malkin-Neal type chemistry. Those 2 look like two awesome hockey players just letting skill take over v. having real chemistry. It was a lot like that when Sid played with Hossa.
I think Geno and Kessel would work well together.
I don't know if I'm in the minority, but I haven't been a huge fan of Bonino.
I don't see Sid and Kessel having the Malkin-Neal type chemistry. Those 2 look like two awesome hockey players just letting skill take over v. having real chemistry. It was a lot like that when Sid played with Hossa.
I think Geno and Kessel would work well together.
I don't know if I'm in the minority, but I haven't been a huge fan of Bonino.
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Not that I don't think Sid and Kessel can work, but it's not working right now. Kessel's chances are coming more or less on his own, and Sid is deferring to him to an agonizing degree. And Sid was dynamite with Perron-Hornqvist for a stretch last season, before the wheels fell off of the entire team.
I think Geno-Kessel could very much end up being like Geno-Neal, but better.
I've liked Bonino a lot. I don't think he'll be very good if we choose to use the 3rd line as a shutdown line, but there's something to be said about a 3rd line that can take over the game and pressure/produce. Bonino brings that, especially with Plotnikov and Bennett/Sprong. Besides, he's not Sutter, so that's instantly an upgrade.
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Crosby and Kessel seem to play at different pace.Not a very good fit tbh.Kessel is very fast,but he actually plays more east-west game.Not sure if he will work with Malkin either.
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Huh... not a fan of Bonino?
I don't think he's amazing or anything, is far from a conventional third line center and struggles a bit on the circle but otherwise I think he's been particularly good the last two. He was clearly feeling things out in the preseason and first couple of games, though. But he, Plotnikov and Bennett (RIP) were really building something good and hopefully that can continue since Bonino looked generally unfazed by not having Bennett and Plotnikov flanking him.
I like him a lot more than most of what I saw from Sutter for his years here, though it's obviously quite early. He's much, much better along the boards and actually has more than one idea of what can be done out there once he gets the puck on his stick. Like... for instance... he understands that he has linemates and is allowed to use them. And he can pass, too!
Well, even!
I don't think he's amazing or anything, is far from a conventional third line center and struggles a bit on the circle but otherwise I think he's been particularly good the last two. He was clearly feeling things out in the preseason and first couple of games, though. But he, Plotnikov and Bennett (RIP) were really building something good and hopefully that can continue since Bonino looked generally unfazed by not having Bennett and Plotnikov flanking him.
I like him a lot more than most of what I saw from Sutter for his years here, though it's obviously quite early. He's much, much better along the boards and actually has more than one idea of what can be done out there once he gets the puck on his stick. Like... for instance... he understands that he has linemates and is allowed to use them. And he can pass, too!
Well, even!
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I think maybe that's why I haven't been a huge fan of him - not saying I dislike him. Slow(ish) foot speed, and he's not real hard to play against because he lacks general size and strength. I think he's about a million miles better than Sutter though, and the fact he can create on the 3rd line is crucial. I would like to see Fehr perform in that spot though, just to be able to contrast the two players.
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Bonino is sort of opposite of what I'd like to see on the 3rd line. I'm not knocking him as a player as much as I'm not sure having him as our 3rd line center is what gets us to where we need to be when games get nasty down the stretch.
I think he's a real slick hockey player though, upper level hockey sense, and some good skill. He's sort of trapped between a 2nd and 3rd liner. 3rd liner on a good team, 2nd liner on a bad team.
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Yup. I didn't see the game last night but it didn't take a genius to put Perron and Hornqvist together. Why it takes our coaching staff so long to do the logical thing (sound familiar with coaches on this team?) I'll never know.
