The state of the Habs Rebuild - The Next step

What note you give to Kent Hughes' Rebuild? ?

  • A

    Votes: 209 49.6%
  • B

    Votes: 155 36.8%
  • C

    Votes: 43 10.2%
  • D

    Votes: 5 1.2%
  • E

    Votes: 2 0.5%
  • F

    Votes: 11 2.6%

  • Total voters
    421

Catanddogguitarrr

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Exactly. And he was a far worse defensive player than Caufield is.

Now, he also scored 80 goals…. :laugh: I don’t expect that from CC.
It was also a different era and different hockey system. Players like Hull who had some defensive weakness (or lazyness) could not hurt the team as much as today. It's like the Oilers of the 80's, they opened the offensive machine as much as it was possible, example other teams would score 5 goals vs them but Oiler would score 7. They were winning that kind of game anyway. And then Lemaire introduced the trap with the Devils and there was no room for all this festival of offence. It's like the animal life, the cobra is a kind of king over all the animals until he meet the mangusta.
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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It was also a different era and different hockey system. Players like Hull who had some defensive weakness (or lazyness) could not hurt the team as much as today. It's like the Oilers of the 80's, they opened the offensive machine as much as it was possible, example other teams would score 5 goals vs them but Oiler would score 7. They were winning that kind of game anyway. And then Lemaire introduced the trap with the Devils and there was no room for all this festival of offence. It's like the animal life, the cobra is a kind of king over all the animals until he meet the mangusta.
It doesn’t matter. Goals determine the winners and losers of hockey games. Goalscoring is the single most valuable contribution a skater can make. Caufield has shown he can score at a rate that’s up with the best in the league.

Say it’s a new league all you wish, at the end of the day teams will always need goalscorers. Caufield has the potential to be among the best. That’s why he’s AA.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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Cmon, Hull is top 5 all time, CC is yet to score 30 in season. They are not the same league.
Don’t avoid the point.

Hull was a one way player if ever there was one. He was also a Hart winner and HOFer. Why? Because he scored goals. It’s all he did but it didn’t matter.

Cc is better defensive player than Hull ever was already. He’s not going to score 80 goals but he’s got the potential to be a top ten goalscorer.

That doesn’t mean he will. But the potential is there.
 

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It was also a different era and different hockey system. Players like Hull who had some defensive weakness (or lazyness) could not hurt the team as much as today. It's like the Oilers of the 80's, they opened the offensive machine as much as it was possible, example other teams would score 5 goals vs them but Oiler would score 7. They were winning that kind of game anyway. And then Lemaire introduced the trap with the Devils and there was no room for all this festival of offence. It's like the animal life, the cobra is a kind of king over all the animals until he meet the mangusta.
Not sure if you argument Hull would not be an elite player today but if so i personally i think it's silly to argument Hull would not be an impactful player today.
 

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It was also a different era and different hockey system. Players like Hull who had some defensive weakness (or lazyness) could not hurt the team as much as today. It's like the Oilers of the 80's, they opened the offensive machine as much as it was possible, example other teams would score 5 goals vs them but Oiler would score 7. They were winning that kind of game anyway. And then Lemaire introduced the trap with the Devils and there was no room for all this festival of offence. It's like the animal life, the cobra is a kind of king over all the animals until he meet the mangusta.
Habs 1983-1984 season…
 
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I agree, I would rate Hutson and Demidov AA. To me, Slaf and CC are A while Slaf has higher potential to reach AA status.

I am not $hiting on him, he is a top 6 player for me, but I do not see him as elite.

CC is nowhere near 200ft player and it is naive to think he ever will.
Takeaways 6
Giveaways 17
Defensive zone giveaways 5
Blocks 9
Hits 15
Did you miss........Becoming?? Becoming a 200ft player. He is among the elite goal scorers this season, will he continue?? Maybe.......maybe not.
Many many before him have not been elite, or complete either, and made it to the HOF.

You are nit picking one of our stars.............and he is all of what? 23 years old??
 

Catanddogguitarrr

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Not sure if you argument Hull would not be an elite player today but if so i personally i think it's silly to argument Hull would not be an impactful player today.
I would take Hull over Caufield. Hull a machine to score goals, a bit like Ovy. And his father too.
But sure Hull would be one of the top players today. And I'm very happy we have Caufield, he's a snyper, he sees plays on the ice before they happen, his hockey IQ is very high. He's one major piece of the core. But we need another center, equal or better than Suzuki. And a top RH D, maybe Rein will fill that spot, once his injury is gone and few years to adapt, get stronger and become a real grown up man.
 

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