It will depends a lot on how Kapanen and Beck looks like by the deadline, what are Evans's contractual ask and his trade return.
And "everyone seems to like him", lets that not be a reason to keep Dvorak around over Evans.
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And "everyone seems to like him", lets that not be a reason to keep Dvorak around over Evans.
The Great Weal
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There is no way we resign Dvorak
Never say never.
I personally think he's the asset to move to get that 4th line grit vet Hughes is supposedly looking for.
I think they'll just sign Evans. Using Girgensons/Kampf as a comparable you'd be looking at something around 4x2.5M on an extension. I don't think they really want to use rookies as a 3C/4C replacement for Evans and at that price, there's not much point in trading him for a 4th just to go UFA shopping for a replacement at around the same cost anyway.
Signing him from age 29-32 is probably "bad" value in a $/WAR pure moneypuck sense but I don't think that really matters. He fills a roster chair as a 4C/PK safety blanket and provides a good measuring stick for guys like Beck and Kapanen.
Signing him from age 29-32 is probably "bad" value in a $/WAR pure moneypuck sense but I don't think that really matters. He fills a roster chair as a 4C/PK safety blanket and provides a good measuring stick for guys like Beck and Kapanen.
Lafleurs Guy
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If you think that it’s going overboard or if you start seeing drive-by crappy posts, report it.
Mods are posters just like you are. We aren’t in every thread and we miss stuff. A lot of times a report can be handy in helping us to see what’s going on. We may not know that a thread is going off the rails because we’re not there.
But this thread is about the state of the rebuild. Not everyone will agree we’re on the right track. It’s perfectly valid to argue that we’re not and use that pick as a reason why.
We don’t want to police opinion. People can argue whatever they like. But as I said, there are limits. It’s got to be constructive in this thread if you want to bring him up.
Out of Town is a little more open. That’s the comings and goings of the league and not a particular topic so we’re probably going to be a little more liberal there.
Lafleurs Guy
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He’s just fine for the role he’s in. Solid 4th liner. If the money’s right, I’m good with re-sibling him.
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LaP
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Dvorak is gone. His first 7 games pretty much guarantee that. He has been inconsistent all his career and it has not change this year.
It will all be about the money and term. If he's willing to sign 2-3 years for +10-15% increase they will likely sign him. If not then they'll have to think about it.
LaP
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I'd definitely not sign him 4 years personally. I'd go shopping on the market for shorter term instead.
Yeah there's no way Dvorak is back imo. 0. Maybe if he picks up his game and Hughes retains at the deadline they get like a 3rd. Maybe.
I agree they resign Evans. It's a no-brainer. Unless he's asking for too much. I can't imagine someone offers a 1st at the deadline, so I'd keep him.
Beck, Kapanen, Hage etc aren't going to be elite PKers within a year or two. And some of these guys can be moved to the wing permanently - on in the meantime.
I was happy to see Dach bounce back last night. He's the wildcard.
If he isn't, we're looking for that 2C again.
Although having another 6'4 winger with Slaf in top 6 isn't bad either.
Another big draft and landing on another elite forward would help.
One of Mailloux or Reinbacher hitting their RD potential would also help a lot.
I agree they resign Evans. It's a no-brainer. Unless he's asking for too much. I can't imagine someone offers a 1st at the deadline, so I'd keep him.
Beck, Kapanen, Hage etc aren't going to be elite PKers within a year or two. And some of these guys can be moved to the wing permanently - on in the meantime.
I was happy to see Dach bounce back last night. He's the wildcard.
If he isn't, we're looking for that 2C again.
Although having another 6'4 winger with Slaf in top 6 isn't bad either.
Another big draft and landing on another elite forward would help.
One of Mailloux or Reinbacher hitting their RD potential would also help a lot.
HabsCode
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I would go 2.5M$ per top for Evans. He is obviously a solid 4th liner, but 4th liner shouldn't make more than that.
Tabarouette
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I didn't think I even had to mention that Dvorak is gone, he's already gone in my mind, he doesn't exist we're just playing with 11 forwards every game
Seriously I’ve never seen a more invisible player in my life.
Just cut him loose already...
And to think he makes 4.5 miilion and worse, that we traded a first and a second for this useless ghost
He was mentioned quite a bit against the Blues, but I knew the moment his name was mentioned that nothing would happen afterward.
Would love to sign Evans 3x3. 3.5 is beginning to stink and Evans might want more term but Evans isn’t just a 4th liner. That’s like people saying Danault was a 3C (which we heard a lot). Realistically 3rd liners don’t produce 40 points on a regular basis . He’s a bottom 6er that can play on the PK and isn’t a blackhole offensively.
WeThreeKings
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Glad people are waking up to the fact that Jake Evans does the job of a 4C incredibly well.. do we wish he had a bit more offense or was a big physical threat? Of course.. but if he had that, he'd be the perfect 3C and be more expensive.
Gravity
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So far 2022 and 2024 drafts get an A+ from me. 2023 is a lot more sketch. Didn't like DR pick, didn't like Newhook trade but the Fowler pick is a good one.
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The rest of the episodes are pretty similar so if you didn't enjoy the first 3 then don't bother with the rest.
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I'd like to get Evans signed to a 3 or 4 year term, but I'm wondering what it'll cost on the cap. It'll surely be a raise from his 1.7M/yr. Maybe 2.5M/yr?
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So they know the playoffs are four full rounds and not three and a beatdown?
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