Player Discussion The Slaf Thread - Parabolic Growth Edition

Erika

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Because he's awful.

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You guys need to stop the unrealistic expectations and calm down with those young players....all those supposed young superstars between 19 to 22 years old... None of them are prodigies. They will all be good players, but most of them will take a certain time to get there and Slafkovsky is no exception :teach:
 

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Very strange to bench him midway through a season where he’s already been given a talking to. They’re not getting through to him?

Hughes and MSL could start having buyer’s remorse for the mega contract extension Slaf did nothing to earn.

Is he lazy, is he entitled, is he distracted, is he immature? I hate that we can’t evaluate him as a hockey player because his efforts are beneath that of a professional player.

Maybe he really does have a mysterious unannounced undisclosed injury that excuses everything but also isn’t a long-term issue.

Our team is winning games but a pillar of the Hughes rebuild is a ghost. What will the Habs do when mighty Joel Armia’s board battle skills move on? We’re winning against good opponents despite Slafkvosky’s best (lol) efforts. Shame.
 

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So lately with Slafkovsky going back to his bad ways, there have been some valid concerns but also some hot takes on whether the team made a terrible mistake committing that kind of money for 8 years. Reminder: this a big player who’s still 20 years old and they are even more inconsistent than other players. I’ll be tackling the question on whether or not we should be concerned on Slafkovsky’s upcoming contract and whether it will affect negatively the window of this team by the time they can compete.

Information that was used for this analysis was the salary cap year by year starting on 2007-2008 to determine the cap hit % of each deal. Slafkovsky will represent a cap hit of 8.2% for year one of his deal.

Season2007-20082008-20092009-20102010-20112011-20122014-20152015-20162016-20172017-20182018-20192019-20202022-20232023-20242024-20252025-2026
Salary Cap$ 50,300,000$ 56,700,000$ 56,800,000$ 59,400,000$ 64,300,000$ 69,000,000$ 71,400,000$ 73,000,000$ 75,000,000$ 79,500,000$ 81,500,000$ 82,500,000$ 83,500,000$ 88,000,000$ 92,400,000
Equivalence in salary based on cap hit %$ 4,124,600$ 4,649,400$ 4,657,600$ 4,870,800$ 5,272,600$ 5,658,000$ 5,854,800$ 5,986,000$ 6,150,000$ 6,519,000$ 6,683,000$ 6,765,000$ 6,847,000$ 7,216,000$ 7,600,000


Part A:

Should Slaf have been signed to a bridge deal?

One idea that’s been thrown is that Slafkovsky should have been at a short deal. Cheap plug (HF Habs: - Analysis - The Inconsistency that come with Big Forwards) but after looking back at the comparables that there are for Slaf (forwards over 6 ft 2 that were picked in the top 15) and analyzing what contracts they were given, did management potentially make the right decision based on historical data. By narrowing down players who produced similar numbers during their ELC (0.65 to 0.72 PPG). I came up with a list of 11 players since 2003 draft.

NameNotesAAVYearsSalary CapCap Hit %Best Season (pts)AgeContract DetailsCap Hit %2nd Best SeasonAgeContract Details3rd Best SeasonAgeContract DetailsAssessmentBridge was/would have been best move?
HortonBridge 1 year 1.1M after ELC$ 4,000,000
6​
$ 50,300,000
8.0%​
57 (in 65 GP)
24​
$ 4,000,000
7.0%​
62​
21​
$ 1,100,000
62​
22​
$ 4,000,000Bridge should have been skippedNo
CarterSigned an 11 year deal after this one$ 5,000,000
3​
$ 56,700,000
8.8%​
84​
24​
$ 5,000,000
8.8%​
66​
26​
$ 5,000,000
66​
32​
Signed a deal no longer allowedN/A
MichalekSigned 3 year 4M after this one$ 4,333,333
6​
$ 56,700,000
7.6%​
66​
22​
ELC
60​
27​
$ 4,333,333
57​
24​
$ 4,333,333Best year happened during ELCYes
E. KaneSigned 7 year 7M deal after this one$ 5,250,000
6​
$ 64,300,000
8.2%​
49 (in 56 GP)
29​
$ 7,000,000
8.6%​
57​
20​
ELC
56​
27​
$ 7,000,000Kane's years were after his 2nd contract or ELCMaybe?
SeguinSigned 8 year 9.85M deal after this one$ 5,750,000
6​
$ 64,300,000
8.9%​
84​
22​
$ 5,750,000
8.9%​
77 (in 71 GP)
23​
$ 5,750,000
80​
27​
$ 5,750,000No
WennbergBought out on that deal after year 3$ 4,900,000
6​
$ 75,000,000
6.5%​
59​
22​
ELC40 (in 69 GP)
21​
ELC35 (in 66 GP)
23​
$ 4,900,000Was bought out and best years during ELCYes
PLDSigned 1 year deal at 6M then the 8 year 8.5M deal$ 5,000,000
2​
$ 81,500,000
6.1%​
63 (in 73 GP)
24​
$ 6,000,000
7.3%​
61​
20​
ELC
60​
23​
$ 5,000,000Would have saved on cap hit by committing earlierNo
NecasSigned 2 years at 6.5M after this one$ 3,000,000
2​
$ 82,500,000
3.6%​
71​
24​
$ 3,000,000
3.6%​
46 (in 38 GP)*
26​
$ 6,500,00041 (in 53 GP)
22​
ELCMight regret for next contractNo
B. Tkachuk$ 8,205,714
7​
$ 81,500,000
10.1%​
83​
23​
$ 8,205,714
9.9%​
37 (in 37 GP)
25​
$ 8,205,714
74​
24​
$ 8,205,714Yes
Byfield$ 6,250,000
5​
$ 88,000,000
7.1%​
55​
21​
ELCNot looking good right nowMaybe?
VoracekBridge 1 year 2.25M after ELC, then 8 years at 8.25M after this deal$ 4,250,000
4​
$ 64,300,000
6.6%​
85​
28​
$ 8,250,000
11.0%​
81​
25​
$ 4,250,000
66​
29​
$ 8,250,000Cap Hit could have been lower for big contract if committed earlierNo
AVG
7.4%​
73​
24​
8.2%​


I looked at the 3 best years of the players in this sample and noted the age it occurred, the contract details (was it during a bridge, ELC, etc) to determine if the teams ended up taking the right approach with their respective player and if they ended up rewarding a player for past performance or properly predicting the trajectory of their player and ending up with a semi bargain.

Would a bridge deal have been the best move for the organization? Based on historical data (5 no’s, 3 yes and 2 maybe’s), I would say no it wouldn’t have. Unless they simply went with shorter term but then you potentially run into the risk of not getting s much of a bargain. One can argue the teams who signed Kane, Seguin, Voracek, Horton and Tkachuk would have been better off adding 1-2 extra years.

Looking at the data for the best seasons of the players from this sample. The age is 24 years old where players produce their most productive year. Reminder: Slafkovsky is just 20 years old. The average cap hit % during those most productive years is in the 8.2% range (note ELCs were excluded here).

Part B

What kind of cap hit should be expected if Slafkovsky’s ceiling is a 67-70 points player in his best years and would it provide good value for the team?

The next concern of some folks is whether Slafkovsky will be overpaid for what he brings at his next deal. BY analyzing the cap increases every year from 2006-2007 all the way until the pandemic, there was an average cap increase of 2.4M every season. If we fast forward to Slafkovsky’s season where he’ll be 24 years old (2028-2029) and project the cap to go up by 7.2M, if so Slafkovsky’s cap hit would be 7.63% and would be the equivalent to 7.050M in next year’s cap if converted.

2026-20272027-20282028-20292029-20302030-20312031-2032
$ 94,800,000$ 97,200,000$ 99,600,000$ 102,000,000$ 104,400,000$ 106,800,000
$ 7,600,000$ 7,600,000$ 7,600,000$ 7,600,000$ 7,600,000$ 7,600,000
8.02%​
7.82%​
7.63%​
7.45%​
7.28%​
7.12%​

I think this barometer is a bit arbitrary but I could see Slafkovsky being a player that averages between 67-70 points during his prime. By splitting the last 14 seasons in different segments and adjusting for scoring surge I narrowed down the forwards from 2010-2015 who averaged 60-63 points during that time span. I did the same from 2015-2020 with forwards who averaged between 64 and 66 points during that period. Finally for the 2020-2024 stretched I looked at forwards who averaged between 67 and 70 points during that stretch. That offered me a sample of 45 players. I looked at their cap hit % during each season and excluded those on ELCs.

Name2009-2010Salary CapCap Hit2010-2011Salary CapCap Hit2011-2012Salary CapCap Hit2013-2014Salary CapCap Hit2014-2015Salary Cap 2Cap Hit
Paul Stastny$ 6,600,000$ 56,800,000
11.6%​
$ 6,600,000$ 59,400,000
11.1%​
$ 6,600,000$ 64,300,000
10.3%​
$ 6,600,000$ 64,300,000
10.3%​
$ 7,000,000$ 69,000,000
10.1%​
Patrik Elias$ 6,000,000$ 56,800,000
10.6%​
$ 6,000,000$ 59,400,000
10.1%​
$ 6,000,000$ 64,300,000
9.3%​
$ 5,500,000$ 64,300,000
8.6%​
$ 5,500,000$ 69,000,000
8.0%​
Daniel Alfredsson$ 5,400,000$ 56,800,000
9.5%​
$ 5,400,000$ 59,400,000
9.1%​
$ 5,400,000$ 64,300,000
8.4%​
$ 5,500,000$ 64,300,000
8.6%​
Jason Pominville$ 5,300,000$ 56,800,000
9.3%​
$ 5,300,000$ 59,400,000
8.9%​
$ 5,300,000$ 64,300,000
8.2%​
$ 5,300,000$ 64,300,000
8.2%​
$ 5,600,000$ 69,000,000
8.1%​
Jeff Carter$ 5,000,000$ 56,800,000
8.8%​
$ 5,000,000$ 59,400,000
8.4%​
$ 5,272,727$ 64,300,000
8.2%​
$ 5,272,727$ 64,300,000
8.2%​
$ 5,272,727$ 69,000,000
7.6%​
Patrice Bergeron$ 4,750,000$ 56,800,000
8.4%​
$ 4,750,000$ 59,400,000
8.0%​
$ 5,000,000$ 64,300,000
7.8%​
$ 5,000,000$ 64,300,000
7.8%​
$ 6,875,000$ 69,000,000
10.0%​
Andy McDonald$ 4,700,000$ 56,800,000
8.3%​
$ 4,700,000$ 59,400,000
7.9%​
$ 4,700,000$ 64,300,000
7.3%​
Johan Franzen$ 3,954,545$ 56,800,000
7.0%​
$ 3,954,545$ 59,400,000
6.7%​
$ 3,954,545$ 64,300,000
6.2%​
$ 3,954,545$ 64,300,000
6.2%​
$ 3,954,545$ 69,000,000
5.7%​
David Krejci$ 3,750,000$ 56,800,000
6.6%​
$ 3,750,000$ 59,400,000
6.3%​
$ 3,750,000$ 64,300,000
5.8%​
$ 5,250,000$ 64,300,000
8.2%​
$ 5,250,000$ 69,000,000
7.6%​
Chris Kunitz$ 3,725,000$ 56,800,000
6.6%​
$ 3,725,000$ 59,400,000
6.3%​
$ 3,725,000$ 64,300,000
5.8%​
$ 3,725,000$ 64,300,000
5.8%​
$ 3,850,000$ 69,000,000
5.6%​
Ray Whitney$ 3,550,000$ 56,800,000
6.3%​
$ 3,000,000$ 59,400,000
5.1%​
$ 3,000,000$ 64,300,000
4.7%​
$ 4,500,000$ 64,300,000
7.0%​
Alex Steen$ 1,700,000$ 56,800,000
3.0%​
$ 3,362,500$ 59,400,000
5.7%​
$ 3,362,500$ 64,300,000
5.2%​
$ 3,362,500$ 64,300,000
5.2%​
$ 5,800,000$ 69,000,000
8.4%​
Loui Eriksson$ 1,600,000$ 56,800,000
2.8%​
$ 4,250,000$ 59,400,000
7.2%​
$ 4,250,000$ 64,300,000
6.6%​
$ 4,250,000$ 64,300,000
6.6%​
$ 4,250,000$ 69,000,000
6.2%​
Matt DucheneELC$ 56,800,000ELC$ 59,400,000ELC$ 64,300,000$ 3,500,000$ 64,300,000
5.4%​
$ 6,000,000$ 69,000,000
8.7%​
Jakub VoracekELC$ 56,800,000ELC$ 59,400,000$ 2,250,000$ 64,300,000
3.5%​
$ 4,250,000$ 64,300,000
6.6%​
$ 4,250,000$ 69,000,000
6.2%​
Bobby RyanELC$ 56,800,000$ 5,100,000$ 59,400,000
8.6%​
$ 5,100,000$ 64,300,000
7.9%​
$ 5,100,000$ 64,300,000
7.9%​
$ 5,100,000$ 69,000,000
7.4%​
Max PaciorettyELC$ 56,800,000ELC$ 59,400,000$ 1,625,000$ 64,300,000
2.5%​
$ 4,500,000$ 64,300,000
7.0%​
$ 4,500,000$ 69,000,000
6.5%​
Logan CoutureELC$ 56,800,000ELC$ 59,400,000ELC$ 64,300,000$ 2,875,000$ 64,300,000
4.5%​
$ 6,000,000$ 69,000,000
8.7%​
Jaromir Jagr$ 56,800,000$ 59,400,000$ 3,300,000$ 64,300,000
5.1%​
$ 4,000,000$ 64,300,000
6.2%​
$ 5,500,000$ 69,000,000
8.0%​
RNH$ 56,800,000$ 59,400,000ELC$ 64,300,000ELC$ 64,300,000$ 6,000,000$ 69,000,000
8.7%​
Vladimir Tarasenko$ 56,800,000$ 59,400,000$ 64,300,000ELC$ 64,300,000ELC$ 69,000,000
AVG$ 4,309,965
7.6%​
$ 4,635,146
7.8%​
$ 4,269,987
6.6%​
$ 4,579,987
7.1%​
$ 5,335,428
7.7%​
Name2015-2016Salary CapCap Hit2016-2017Salary CapCap Hit2017-2018Salary CapCap Hit2018-2019Salary CapCap Hit2019-2020Salary CapCap Hit
David Krejci$ 7,250,000$ 71,400,000
10.2%​
$ 7,250,000$ 73,000,000
9.9%​
$ 7,250,000$ 75,000,000
9.7%​
$ 7,250,000$ 79,500,000
9.1%​
$ 7,250,000$ 81,500,000
8.9%​
Joe Pavelski$ 6,000,000$ 71,400,000
8.4%​
$ 6,000,000$ 73,000,000
8.2%​
$ 6,000,000$ 75,000,000
8.0%​
$ 6,000,000$ 79,500,000
7.5%​
$ 7,000,000$ 81,500,000
8.6%​
Brayden Schenn$ 2,500,000$ 71,400,000
3.5%​
$ 5,125,000$ 73,000,000
7.0%​
$ 5,125,000$ 75,000,000
6.8%​
$ 5,125,000$ 79,500,000
6.4%​
$ 5,125,000$ 81,500,000
6.3%​
Mike Hoffman$ 2,000,000$ 71,400,000
2.8%​
$ 5,187,500$ 73,000,000
7.1%​
$ 5,187,500$ 75,000,000
6.9%​
$ 5,187,500$ 79,500,000
6.5%​
$ 5,187,500$ 81,500,000
6.4%​
Sean Couturier$ 1,750,000$ 71,400,000
2.5%​
$ 4,333,333$ 73,000,000
5.9%​
$ 4,333,333$ 75,000,000
5.8%​
$ 4,333,333$ 79,500,000
5.5%​
$ 4,333,333$ 81,500,000
5.3%​
Filip ForsbergELC$ 71,400,000$ 6,000,000$ 73,000,000
8.2%​
$ 6,000,000$ 75,000,000
8.0%​
$ 6,000,000$ 79,500,000
7.5%​
$ 6,000,000$ 81,500,000
7.4%​
AVG$ 3,900,000
5.5%​
$ 5,649,306
7.7%​
$ 5,649,306
7.5%​
$ 5,649,306
7.1%​
$ 5,815,972
7.1%​
Name2020-2021Salary CapCap Hit2021-2022Salary CapCap Hit2022-2023Salary CapCap Hit2023-2024Salary CapCap Hit
Duchene$ 8,000,000$ 81,500,000
9.8%​
$ 8,000,000$ 81,500,000
9.8%​
$ 8,000,000$ 82,500,000
9.7%​
$ 8,000,000$ 83,500,000
9.6%​
Tarasenko$ 7,500,000$ 81,500,000
9.2%​
$ 7,500,000$ 81,500,000
9.2%​
$ 7,500,000$ 82,500,000
9.1%​
$ 5,000,000$ 83,500,000
6.0%​
Pacioretty$ 7,000,000$ 81,500,000
8.6%​
$ 7,000,000$ 81,500,000
8.6%​
$ 7,000,000$ 82,500,000
8.5%​
$ 4,000,000$ 83,500,000
4.8%​
Bergeron$ 6,875,000$ 81,500,000
8.4%​
$ 6,875,000$ 81,500,000
8.4%​
$ 5,000,000$ 82,500,000
6.1%​
$ 83,500,000
Laine$ 6,750,000$ 81,500,000
8.3%​
$ 7,500,000$ 81,500,000
9.2%​
$ 8,700,000$ 82,500,000
10.5%​
$ 8,700,000$ 83,500,000
10.4%​
Kreider$ 6,500,000$ 81,500,000
8.0%​
$ 6,500,000$ 81,500,000
8.0%​
$ 6,500,000$ 82,500,000
7.9%​
$ 6,500,000$ 83,500,000
7.8%​
Nelson$ 6,000,000$ 81,500,000
7.4%​
$ 6,000,000$ 81,500,000
7.4%​
$ 6,000,000$ 82,500,000
7.3%​
$ 6,000,000$ 83,500,000
7.2%​
Meier$ 6,000,000$ 81,500,000
7.4%​
$ 6,000,000$ 81,500,000
7.4%​
$ 6,000,000$ 82,500,000
7.3%​
$ 8,800,000$ 83,500,000
10.5%​
Ehlers$ 6,000,000$ 81,500,000
7.4%​
$ 6,000,000$ 81,500,000
7.4%​
$ 6,000,000$ 82,500,000
7.3%​
$ 6,000,000$ 83,500,000
7.2%​
Schmaltz$ 5,850,000$ 81,500,000
7.2%​
$ 5,850,000$ 81,500,000
7.2%​
$ 5,850,000$ 82,500,000
7.1%​
$ 5,850,000$ 83,500,000
7.0%​
Konecny$ 5,500,000$ 81,500,000
6.7%​
$ 5,500,000$ 81,500,000
6.7%​
$ 5,500,000$ 82,500,000
6.7%​
$ 5,500,000$ 83,500,000
6.6%​
Marchessault$ 5,000,000$ 81,500,000
6.1%​
$ 5,000,000$ 81,500,000
6.1%​
$ 5,000,000$ 82,500,000
6.1%​
$ 5,000,000$ 83,500,000
6.0%​
Lindholm$ 4,850,000$ 81,500,000
6.0%​
$ 4,850,000$ 81,500,000
6.0%​
$ 4,850,000$ 82,500,000
5.9%​
$ 4,850,000$ 83,500,000
5.8%​
Tuch$ 4,750,000$ 81,500,000
5.8%​
$ 4,750,000$ 81,500,000
5.8%​
$ 4,750,000$ 82,500,000
5.8%​
$ 4,750,000$ 83,500,000
5.7%​
Verhaeghe$ 1,000,000$ 81,500,000
1.2%​
$ 1,000,000$ 81,500,000
1.2%​
$ 4,166,667$ 82,500,000
5.1%​
$ 4,166,667$ 83,500,000
5.0%​
SuzukiELC$ 81,500,000ELC$ 81,500,000$ 7,875,000$ 82,500,000
9.5%​
$ 7,875,000$ 83,500,000
9.4%​
BoldyELC$ 81,500,000ELC$ 81,500,000ELC$ 82,500,000$ 7,000,000$ 83,500,000
8.4%​
SvechnikovELC$ 81,500,000$ 7,750,000$ 81,500,000
9.5%​
$ 7,750,000$ 82,500,000
9.4%​
$ 7,750,000$ 83,500,000
9.3%​
AVG$ 5,838,333
7.2%​
$ 6,004,688
7.4%​
$ 6,261,275
7.6%​
$ 6,220,098
7.4%​


For the most part, the players have a more favorable cap hit % than Slafkovsky’s projected 7.6% (keep in mind that number would keep going down as years go by; 3 seasons later we could be looking at 7.12%). The average during those 14 seasons was a cap hit of 7.2% for that kind of productivity. There were 3 seasons where 7.6% would have offered better value during that season, 1 where it was even and 10 where it would have been worse value.

Note: I used a very conservative approach for this, based on previous reports by Elliott Friedman, we could be looking a massive jump for salary cap in upcoming years with the expansions.

Part C

Will Slafkovsky’s cap hit be a nuisance to the team if he tops out as that kind of player?

I looked at the roster of the Stanley Cup winners since 2012 (that’s as far as the resource I used could go). Again I will be basing myself off Slafkovsky’s project 7.63% where he’ll be 24 years old which could be a realistic target for our stanley cup window to open up.


Season2011-2012Cap Hit2012-2013Cap Hit2013-2014Cap Hit2014-2015Cap Hit2015-2016Cap Hit2016-2017Cap Hit2017-2018Cap Hit2018-2019Cap Hit2019-2020Cap Hit2020-2021Cap Hit2021-2022Cap Hit2022-2023Cap Hit2023-2024Cap Hit
WinnerLAKCHILAKCHIPITPITWSHSTLTBTBCOLVGKFLA
Highest paid playersDoughty
10.89%​
Kane
8.97%​
Gaborik
11.66%​
Kane
9.13%​
Malkin
13.31%​
Malkin
13.01%​
Ovechkin
12.72%​
Tarasenko
9.43%​
Kucherov
11.60%​
Vasilevskiy
11.60%​
Rantanen
11.30%​
Eichel
12.12%​
Bobrovsky
11.98%​
Kopitar
10.58%​
Toews
8.97%​
Doughty
10.89%​
Toews
9.13%​
Crosby
12.18%​
Crosby
11.92%​
Kuznetsov
10.40%​
ROR
9.43%​
Stamkos
10.40%​
Kucherov
11.60%​
Makar
11.04%​
Pietrangelo
10.67%​
Barkov
11.98%​
SlafRichards
8.94%​
Sharp
8.40%​
Kopitar
10.58%​
Crawford
8.70%​
Letang
10.15%​
Letang
9.93%​
Backstrom
8.93%​
Pietrangelo
8.18%​
Hedman
9.66%​
Stamkos
10.40%​
Landeskog
8.59%​
Tkachuk
11.38%​
7.63%​
Carter
8.20%​
Seabrook
8.26%​
Quick
9.02%​
Sharp
8.55%​
Kessel
9.52%​
Kessel
9.32%​
Holtby
8.13%​
McDonagh
8.28%​
Hedman
9.66%​
MacKinnon
7.73%​
Ekblad
8.98%​
Keith
7.89%​
Richards
8.94%​
Seabrook
8.41%​
Fleury
8.05%​
Fleury
7.88%​
Niskanen
7.67%​
Point
8.28%​
McDonagh
8.28%​
Reinhart
7.78%​
Hossa7.70%Carter
8.20%​
Keith
8.03%​
Oshie
7.67%​
Point
8.28%​
Hossa
7.64%​
Rank
5​
7​
7​
8​
6​
6​
7​
4​
6​
7​
4​
3​
6​
AVG
5.85​

On average, with that cap hit, Slafkovsky would be the 5.85th (round up to 6th) highest paid player on a SC winning team. That is very encouraging because in my opinion, I think the team won’t be in trouble if Slafkovsky is the team’s 4th or 5th best player on the team. The fact that the rest of the core is locked up at a bargain price is even more reason to be optimistic about the future of this team.


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waitin425

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I know you are a foremost wordsmith and poet....but I have to ask....did you write this immediately following the game?

Too early to tell with Slaf. I think he is 20 and has a ton of room to grow into his potential. I only declare definitives when it is for the better. Slaf has more in him. I think the contract will be fine, with less certainty than when he signed it.
 

Hannibal

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You guys need to stop the unrealistic expectations and calm down with those young players....all those supposed young superstars between 19 to 22 years old... None of them are prodigies. They will all be good players, but most of them will take a certain time to get there and Slafkovsky is no exception :teach:

QFT.

Patience.
 
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You guys need to stop the unrealistic expectations and calm down with those young players....all those supposed young superstars between 19 to 22 years old... None of them are prodigies. They will all be good players, but most of them will take a certain time to get there and Slafkovsky is no exception :teach:

I don't care about stats, I'm not 13 years old. I care about effort, I care about his play without the puck.

It is trash. even if he was PPG I would still cheer for his arrest if someone called the cops.
 

Maitz

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I have no problem with negociating one year before if the player is already a core and steady player, I wanted them to wait this year to see if he would take the next step. I feel like young players don't put the same effort knowing they have 50M guarantee in the future
 
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Naslund

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Jun 18, 2006
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Am I supposed to be either of those things with the content of my thread..? Lol
Sorry, I did not intend to point the finger at you. I just know that with the team winning and St-Louis out of the woods, the mob will move to another target. Based on what's I'm reading on the board, Slaf is going to get it, unfortunately.

I just felt your thread would bring munitions and cover for these folks.

Slaf is 20. He is not a finished product. His contract will be fine, as he will bring something unique to this team. A guy with size that can make plays.
 

Estimated_Prophet

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The anti St-Louis now moving on to Slafkovsky. How predictable...

Slaf has been brutal all season long, he is playing lazy, dumb hockey and absolutely should sit in the press box for at least one game.

I was never on the MSL is a bad coach or Dach was a mistake train and I called these out as dumb hot takes. Slaf will very likely be fine but he clearly is refusing to do what is being asked of him and he very well may need some tough love to expedite his maturity level to where it needs to be.
 

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