Player Discussion The Slaf Thread - Parabolic Growth Edition

[Habs]

You do know one is three years older? This is the level of analysis is lame and trollish.

Yes it’s so professional and grade A analytics on this forum, wouldn’t want to taint it. Go kiss MSL’s poster on your wall and try not to get triggered in the future

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

You are right, Slaf's regression in his third year is amazing and we should totally embrace his effort out there. I appreciate how he floats around with that stupid carefree look on his face and hangs his head in shame every third shift. Why would we expect effort if you are not putting up points? That's a wonderful process I never considered. I do not knock players that look like they give a shit. Cole Caufield is trying out there, Suzuki is trying, so are Arbs , Guhle and Hutson

I could give 2 shits about the losses, it's the horrific effort 3 out of 4 games.
'Development is not linear' - yeah, and without effort it isn't going to happen

He's still only 20, the brain isn't even fully developed yet. Let's allow him some time. We're not in a rush, especially since the contract hasn't even kicked in yet.

 

[KevSkillz4]

The fact that after 148 NHL games, he on pace for 41 points every year, that's really good for a 20 years old player.

We have all said that Slaf will be a monster at 22-23 years old, not 20 years old. His contract will be very fine, maybe a steal if he play in his top potential.

This a beast in the making 100%

 

[nhlfan9191]

The fact that after 148 NHL games, he on pace for 41 points every year, that's really good for a 20 years old player.

We have all said that Slaf will be a monster at 22-23 years old, not 20 years old. His contract will be very fine, maybe a steal if he play in his top potential.

This a beast in the making 100%

I think people are panicking because they’re seeing potential behavioural concerns as opposed to a talent issue. I really don’t think there’s anything to panic about yet. He’s shown he has the talent last season. He just needs to put it together. I think a coaching change would probably do good for both him and Dach. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the players are tuning out St. Louis this year. Constantly being in the bottom 5 of the league also isn’t a good motivator.

 

[LaP]

I think people are panicking because they’re seeing potential behavioural concerns as opposed to a talent issue. I really don’t think there’s anything to panic about yet. He’s shown he has the talent last season. He just needs to put it together. I think a coaching change would probably do good for both him and Dach. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the players are tuning out St. Louis this year. Constantly being in the bottom 5 of the league also isn’t a good motivator.

Behavioural concerns is pretty normal at that age. It becomes less normal at 22-23.

 

[Kennerback]

I think people are panicking because they’re seeing potential behavioural concerns as opposed to a talent issue. I really don’t think there’s anything to panic about yet. He’s shown he has the talent last season. He just needs to put it together. I think a coaching change would probably do good for both him and Dach. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the players are tuning out St. Louis this year. Constantly being in the bottom 5 of the league also isn’t a good motivator.

We learned that Slaf absolutely can’t drive a line right now…. It just feels like MSL stuck Slaf with Dach to either get Dach out of the funk or get a second line going. Unfortunately, Instead of lifting Dach up, Slaf regressed to his level. They were barely distinguishable before they were broken up.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Slip this under his hotel door

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Dunno

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/coyotes-cutting-ties-with-alex-galchenyuk-following-arrest-1.6906703

I think there was bigger problem than MT

That's just his post-therrien traumatic stress disorder. They used to call shell shock. We call it Therrien Shock. Or Therrien Sucks.

An insult here, a toenail there, a fart over there. Smoke getting blown in his face. These cues tend to accumulate.

 

[DAChampion]

That's just his post-therrien traumatic stress disorder. They used to call shell shock. We call it Therrien Shock. Or Therrien Sucks.

An insult here, a toenail there, a fart over there. Smoke getting blown in his face. These cues tend to accumulate.

I actually do think that when somebody slips off the rails, it's very hard to get back on, and that's true in most areas of life.

Of the recent players the Habs underused, only Eller managed to do substantially better after leaving the Habs. But even he probably didn't recover to his former potential.

 

[HabzSauce]

That's just his post-therrien traumatic stress disorder. They used to call shell shock. We call it Therrien Shock. Or Therrien Sucks.

An insult here, a toenail there, a fart over there. Smoke getting blown in his face. These cues tend to accumulate.

Therrien's the GOAT

Get da bois some darts behind the bench

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Therrien's the GOAT

Get da bois some darts behind the bench

Indeed. Greatest Oaf of All Time

 

[Heffyhoof]

Yes it’s so professional and grade A analytics on this forum, wouldn’t want to taint it. Go kiss MSL’s poster on your wall and try not to get triggered in the future

Yeah, should've known not to engage with a poster who frequently uses 'lol'. Go kiss your mirror you boring troll, because I'm a well known MSL fan

 

[Habs Halifax]

Slaf needs to shoot more. He's still going to go through the up/down rollercoaster development ride but his shot totals are low and he's passing the puck in shooting areas. When you shoot a bit more, it keeps the goalie and D on their heels a bit. When you are pass happy, it's easy to defend. Shots and rebounds/puck retrievals creates havoc and that's how you generate offense and prolonged offensive zone pressure. The other teams D gets out of position chasing pucks due to confusion. If you continually passing and keeping the play to the outside, it's easy to defend.

This roster lacks shooters and also guys who can actually win puck battles. It's one thing to maintain puck possession but when the game gets rough and your are playing a team who has good team D, you got to comprehend how to change the style of play! Right now, we are more on the skilled side vs the physical strength side and we need better balance in that area.

Slaf was not drafted for his "vision" and play making skills as the important assets. We drafted him for his shot and physical strength as the important assets. He shouldn't be coached to be a gentle giant. I bet you he wasn't passes as much in his draft year when he was scoring goals in different leagues / international tournaments. Be the man Slaf... take control of the game more and start sniping corners. The rest of his game will open up!

 

[Habs Halifax]

We learned that Slaf absolutely can’t drive a line right now…. It just feels like MSL stuck Slaf with Dach to either get Dach out of the funk or get a second line going. Unfortunately, Instead of lifting Dach up, Slaf regressed to his level. They were barely distinguishable before they were broken up.

I wonder about this part... MSL as a smaller type player is a great coach for guys like Caufield and Hutson but is he the right person to understand the games that Dach and Slaf have? Guys who have size/strength with skill?

I think we need a power forward development coach to help Marty. We need some of our larger sized forwards to be a bit more angry/hungry. Dach and Slaf should not be mentoring their game towards Suzuki or Caufield which is skating/skill. Suzuki holds his own yes but Dach and Slaf have more to offer in the physical areas. I'm not just talking about hits. I want to see them push the D around in front of the net. Need more havoc created in front of the apposing teams goalie.

Last thing we need is to coach both Dach and Slaf to play a gentil style games based on skating/skill and playing around the perimeter.

 

[Habs]

Yeah, should've known not to engage with a poster who frequently uses 'lol'. Go kiss your mirror you boring troll, because I'm a well known MSL fan

Fake news, I never said 'go kiss your mirror' , I said 'Go Kiss your MSL poster'

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[Deebs]

I wonder about this part... MSL as a smaller type player is a great coach for guys like Caufield and Hutson but is he the right person to understand the games that Dach and Slaf have? Guys who have size/strength with skill?

I think we need a power forward development coach to help Marty. We need some of our larger sized forwards to be a bit more angry/hungry. Dach and Slaf should not be mentoring their game towards Suzuki or Caufield which is skating/skill. Suzuki holds his own yes but Dach and Slaf have more to offer in the physical areas. I'm not just talking about hits. I want to see them push the D around in front of the net. Need more havoc created in front of the apposing teams goalie.

Last thing we need is to coach both Dach and Slaf to play a gentil style games based on skating/skill and playing around the perimeter.

Unfortunately you can't coach how to become aggressive. The player either has that mindset or they don't.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Unfortunately you can't coach how to become aggressive. The player either has that mindset or they don't.

You can look at their style of play pre NHL and see if they are playing to that same style in the NHL though. Sometimes, a team culture alters the mentality for someone who is developing like Slaf.

He's already aggressive and has shown signs of it. He just needs to pick is spots better. Comes with time but he should not be mentoring his game towards Suzuki, Caufield, Hutson. Problem is, who would he mentor his game towards on our roster? See my point?

Last thing we need is for Slaf to develop as a perimeter skilled forward who is pass happy. I don't know about you but he didn't play that way pre NHL.

 

[Vachon23]

AG had issues but his biggest problem was Therrien.

AG biggest issues was himself…

That guy was a nightmare off Ice

 

[Deebs]

You can look at their style of play pre NHL and see if they are playing to that same style in the NHL though. Sometimes, a team culture alters the mentality for someone who is developing like Slaf.

He's already aggressive and has shown signs of it. He just needs to pick is spots better. Comes with time but he should not be mentoring his game towards Suzuki, Caufield, Hutson. Problem is, who would he mentor his game towards on our roster? See my point?

Last thing we need is for Slaf to develop as a perimeter skilled forward who is pass happy. I don't know about you but he didn't play that way pre NHL.

Slaf is the furthest thing from an aggressive player, imo of course. I actually believe he's one of the softest 240lbs players I've ever watched and that's no fault of his, that's just how he's wired. If you take a look at guys like the Tkachuk's, they were bred to be physical assholes on the ice. Slaf will never be that type of player. If the team gets more physical, which is a must, I'm sure he will ramp up his level of physicality somewhat.

Going forward he can definitely learn to use his body better for shielding the puck, creating space, etc...but he'll never consistently instigate contact or violence.

He's always been this type of player

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Therrien's the GOAT

Get da bois some darts behind the bench

No that's the thing , Therrien hogged all the darts for himself , and anyways nowadays these kids just vape , we used to be a proper rig smoking country , where did we go wrong

Slaf is the furthest thing from an aggressive player, imo of course. I actually believe he's one of the softest 240lbs players I've ever watched and that's no fault of his, that's just how he's wired. If you take a look at guys like the Tkachuk's, they were bred to be physical assholes on the ice. Slaf will never be that type of player. If the team gets more physical, which is a must, I'm sure he will ramp up his level of physicality somewhat.

Going forward he can definitely learn to use his body better for shielding the puck, creating space, etc...but he'll never consistently instigate contact or violence.

He's always been this type of player

Last year he was winning all types of board battles and exiting the boards in movement with the puck on his stick , nowadays not so much , we don't need him to be Tom Wilson either , just need him to get to the slot

 

[sampollock]

Slaf is the furthest thing from an aggressive player, imo of course. I actually believe he's one of the softest 240lbs players I've ever watched and that's no fault of his, that's just how he's wired. If you take a look at guys like the Tkachuk's, they were bred to be physical assholes on the ice. Slaf will never be that type of player. If the team gets more physical, which is a must, I'm sure he will ramp up his level of physicality somewhat.

Going forward he can definitely learn to use his body better for shielding the puck, creating space, etc...but he'll never consistently instigate contact or violence.

He's always been this type of player

He needs a coach to teach him that he is bigger then the other boys out there.
use that size to his advantage

 

[habamillions]

We are getting close to the next holiday. Due for a goal soon

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

AG biggest issues was himself…

That guy was a nightmare off Ice

He was never good enough , off ice issues or not , plenty of players have off ice issues and are just more talented than chucky ever was. Chucky had one hell of a one timer though , without that shot there's not much good to look back on

 

[HabzSauce]

No that's the thing , Therrien hogged all the darts for himself , and anyways nowadays these kids just vape , we used to be a proper rig smoking country , where did we go wrong

Vaping took off right around the time we fired Therrien.....coincidence? I think not.

Tobacco companies probably so pissed at molson for destroying their biggest sponsor.

 

[Team_Spirit]

No that's the thing , Therrien hogged all the darts for himself , and anyways nowadays these kids just vape , we used to be a proper rig smoking country , where did we go wrong

What happened bros