Post-Game Talk: The Sieve We Know

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Been saying this since forever. But apparently it’s always the forwards/Defenses fault.

So wtf is the goalies job then?

Hang out? Like those 80s Oilers won because they scored a million goals, they also f***ed up a ton defensively and got bailed out lol.

 

[MikeS24]

How the hell can anyone shit on McDavid after willing us to an epic comeback on his own? Are these people even fans of this team?

These people love being the "contrarian". Go against the grain every single time. Haven't noticed Guymez once in here because he probably can't take the Skinner bashing lol. He did post in the radio thread.

Not one item on his list of bad things even mentioned goaltending lmao. Skinner still has a few staunch supporter here. Fans who don't want to see a cup. They would rather cheer more for a player than the team. THis is a forum. We vent. We celebrate. They just call it hive mind after seeing this fatso implode year after year.

 

[McAsuno]

Been saying this since forever. But apparently it’s always the forwards/Defenses fault.

So wtf is the goalies job then?

In Stuart's pov? To be on tv ads, to talk about life, to talk about podcasts and reading books.
Skinner: "Playing goalie? What's that? But hey, I found a podcast last night so we should all listen to it together and eat some pizza 73 while we're at it."

 

[MessierThanThou]

Next unstoppable force getting in the way are the referees.

It really is amazing what the "team" (McDavid and friends) pulled off in the third period when you consider we had the refs working against us and our coach trusting his own worst instincts. We're spoiled to have this guy on our team. And then you almost forget we have Draisaitl too... Again, no Cups at this point should be a lasting black eye for everyone in management.

These people love being the "contrarian". Go against the grain every single time. Haven't noticed Guymez once in here because he probably can't take the Skinner bashing lol. He did post in the radio thread.

Not one item on his list of bad things even mentioned goaltending lmao. Skinner still has a few staunch supporter here. Fans who don't want to see a cup. They would rather cheer more for a player than the team. THis is a forum. We vent. We celebrate. They just call it hive mind after seeing this fatso implode year after year.

And they don't even support our best players. They actually blame them to defend someone far less talented in their position, yet some unfathomably stupid "ding dongs" said this was an invented narrative just a couple weeks ago. Well look at this thread, dipshit.

 

[MikeS24]

RNH cooled that intensity down by skating into the clip lol

RNH is the epitome of pure bland nothing.

Just a nothing player all the way around.

The only game this year where he impressed me was the last SEA game here in EDM. That game he actually looked like he wanted the puck and moved it around with authority.

Otherwise he is the complete opposite. He *Might* hang onto the puck for a while, drive the net, or dish it off for a grade A chance once every 10 games. Scared of being physical. Just Chip it in and slowly let the other dman get to it before you. Give a stick waive to pretend like you are forechecking and skate back the other way to defend.

Rinse and repeat

Oh, and Country Club KnobGobbler will never take this guys prime PP minutes away either, even when he shows no results.

 

[Louis Cypher]

I know everyone's pissed about the missed call on the punch to McDavid's head from Byfield but it really looked like McDavid threw a Messier style elbow to Byfield's head right before. I rewound it many times. Sure looked like it. He needs to be careful. Can't get suspended. Anyone else see it?

 

[Drivesaitl]

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Next thing you know, a goal on Skinner has something to do with them spotting somebody in the crowd pointing a laser in his eye = deflection by the skinner support crew.

A whole lot of excuses for this guy all the time. Can't ever admit that he played like shit, some of the goals especially the GWG were shit. It's always poor precious Stu.

The Kings know Stu as well as they know any goalie. Look at some of the goals. On PP Kuzmenko slotting in on an extreme close in pass shot goal. So close in its ridiculous because they know Skinner won't spot it, won't be there, and doesn't use his stic for anything and will be deep in net.

2nd goal Byfield has all day to bank that off Skinner slow to sealing post.

Third almost goal Foegele hits Bouchard skate instead of puck going in on open net.

4th almost goal Kuzmenko on a wrap doesn't manage to tuck clean and the puck goes to mid net where it hits Skinners pad. Theres two feet open to tuck that puck in.

3rd goal Kempe just makes a standard move to backhand tuck to easily change angle and beat Skinner clean. Like he can do that in his sleep.

4th goal? Unstoppable. Nobody makes that stop.

5th goal From LA broadcast: " Skinner didn't see the pass across," lol everybody else in the rink saw it.

6th goal. disaster.

 

[K1984]

I think they should just turf the 3 center look.
Just go back to...

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Podkolzin-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Skinner-Frederic-Perry

We know that lines 1 and 3 have worked at some point, the goals didn't come but Drai works well with Podkolzin because he frees a lot of pucks up for Drai and see if the 4th line clicks.
Why Knob put together a bunch of lines that never played together in Game 1 is beyond me then he immediately blended the whole thing to smithereens in the 1st period.
Just stick with some lines that have known chemistry and please for the love of god stick with them for a while.

I think we should do the opposite of normal - go nuclear then split them up if/when we get a lead.

We couldn't generate anything with them apart, then started to right when they came together around the middle of the 2nd. Put them together, get a goal or two lead, then back them off and try to roll 4 lines in the most boring fashion stylistically possible. If we play safe hockey the Kings aren't going to be able to generate much, just need to establish the lead to get our game there.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Skinner defenders cannot fathom that goalies are actually allowed to make big saves, in big moments DESPITE there being defensive breakdowns. This concept is completely foreign to them for some reason.

 

[McAsuno]

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The Kings know Stu as well as they know any goalie. Look at some of the goals. On PP Kuzmenko slotting in on an extreme close in pass shot goal. So close in its ridiculous because they know Skinner won't spot it, won't be there, and doesn't use his stic for anything and will be deep in net.

2nd goal Byfield has all day to bank that off Skinner slow to sealing post.

Third almost goal Foegele hits Bouchard skate instead of puck going in on open net.

4th almost goal Kuzmenko on a wrap doesn't manage to tuck clean and the puck goes to mid net where it hits Skinners pad. Theres two feet open to tuck that puck in.

3rd goal Kempe just makes a standard move to backhand tuck to easily change angle and beat Skinner clean. Like he can do that in his sleep.

4th goal? Unstoppable. Nobody makes that stop.

5th goal From LA broadcast: " Skinner didn't see the pass across," lol everybody else in the rink saw it.

6th goal. disaster.

At this point even Stevie f***ing Wonder could score on Stuart Skinner.
You don't even have to be the kings to dissect how easy it is to score on the sieve.
Start off with going for wraparounds or dishing the puck from one end to the other because there's a high % the puck will go in since he can't move laterally to save his f***ing life lmao.

 

[VanCanFanEDM]

This isn't vintage CuJo with an off game.. You simply can't go back to him. This isn't minor hockey, KK can't look his players in the eye and put him back in net..

 

[McAsuno]

Skinner defenders cannot fathom that goalies are actually allowed to make big saves, in big moments DESPITE there being defensive breakdowns. This concept is completely foreign to them for some reason.

Exactly. Always excuses. Its this guys fault, no its the other guys fault. No wonder Stu's always comfortable in his pressers since his dumb ass supporters share the same logic of lack of accountability for him also.

An empty net had more of a positive rating last night than Skinner, but his few dumb supporters in this thread try to yap, gaslight, and deflect elsewhere.

 

[MikeS24]

There's no arguing with those idiots anymore. They are either related to Stu or sitting in the cuck chair in the hotel. This fanbase is BEYOND lucky to have McDavid and Draisaitl and those fans that don't get that have the hockey IQ of tapioca pudding. I am just done seeing their irrelevant takes on this sport.

If LA scored on an unscreened slow floater from the blueline last night with 40 sec to go, those same people would say "Why was that guy allowed to shoot from there"

There is zero accountability on the goalie. It was 5-5. You delete everything before this. Skinner did lose that game, contrary to what his fanclub keeps saying.

at 5-5, that goal cannot go in. Full stop. They do not understand this. They go back to "slow start". That is irrelevant when the game was tied.

 

[K1984]

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This isn't vintage CuJo with an off game.. You simply can't go back to him. This isn't minor hockey, KK can't look his players in the eye and put him back in net..

Starting Skinner again does nothing for him either.

Putting him in again only for him to shit the bed again isn't going to be good for him as a human. The addiction to him hurts everyone, including him.

 

[McShogun99]

I think they should just turf the 3 center look.
Just go back to...

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Podkolzin-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Skinner-Frederic-Perry

We know that lines 1 and 3 have worked at some point, the goals didn't come but Drai works well with Podkolzin because he frees a lot of pucks up for Drai and see if the 4th line clicks.
Why Knob put together a bunch of lines that never played together in Game 1 is beyond me then he immediately blended the whole thing to smithereens in the 1st period.
Just stick with some lines that have known chemistry and please for the love of god stick with them for a while.

We never play the 4th line anyways and Henrique needs more minutes. Skinner will be out next game for Kapanen or Kane.

 

[Drivesaitl]

At this point even Stevie f***ing Wonder could score on Stuart Skinner.
You don't even have to be the kings to dissect how easy it is to score on the sieve.
Start off with going for wraparounds or dishing the puck from one end to the other because there's a high % the puck will go in since he can't move laterally to save his f***ing life lmao.

Kempe on the goal, particularly is exemplifying How Skinner can't even make a basic move across. He has to throw his carcass cross crease hoping for a miracle. That goal exemplifies how easy it is to beat Skinner in the rare situations where are D are outworked and lose puck. Good mitts but Kempe punishing, loving it, and selling it. If only the Oilers org would listen. Kempe has been doing this for years. Almost like he's advertising how much Skinner sucks. Byfield too on the bank. "Hey why not, its Skinner, it'll work"
Danault rarely scores on anybody anymore but he got two by Skinner.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Exactly. Always excuses. Its this guys fault, no its the other guys fault. No wonder Stu's always comfortable in his pressers since his dumb ass supporters share the same logic of lack of accountability for him also.

An empty net had more of a positive rating last night than Skinner, but his few dumb supporters in this thread try to yap, gaslight, and deflect elsewhere.

Also, something a lot of his apologists miss: yes, Bouchard will f*** up and lead to a shot against, but if that shot against is weak and it still goes in, that's way more on Skinner than it is on Bouchard.

 

[MikeS24]

look back at the play, not just what the goal highlights show and you'll see the entire situation was avoidable. Edmonton could have kept the puck in. McDrai should have been on the bench for the faceoff and fresh players should have been out. The situation developed because a tired mcdavid made a wrong call on chasing a puck he chipped and Drai being too tired to properly back check. Skinner should have stopped the shot for sure, but no one on the ice or behind the bench made the right call and it cost the team.

Nobody will disagree with you here.
#1 - That moron of a coach should have had fresh players on to get to OT
#2 - Players made wrong decisions which compounded

I 100% disagree with anybody who thinks that was a good move, It was pure lunacy. 40 seconds left. Get it to OT and rest for 17-18 minutes.

The players should have played that safe and just backed off and trapped it up or whatever they had to do.

It is what it is

I firmly believe we could play air tight D for the rest of the playoffs and our goaltender will still sink us in a close game. He cannot be trusted at all.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I know everyone's pissed about the missed call on the punch to McDavid's head from Byfield but it really looked like McDavid threw a Messier style elbow to Byfield's head right before. I rewound it many times. Sure looked like it. He needs to be careful. Can't get suspended. Anyone else see it?

Okay debrusk, calm down and keep the hating to the broadcast

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Exactly. Always excuses. Its this guys fault, no its the other guys fault. No wonder Stu's always comfortable in his pressers since his dumb ass supporters share the same logic of lack of accountability for him also.

An empty net had more of a positive rating last night than Skinner, but his few dumb supporters in this thread try to yap, gaslight, and deflect elsewhere.

Doesnt help that he has unbelievable amount of cheerleaders in the media. Rishaug is the most egregious of them all.

 

[McAsuno]

Kempe on the goal, particularly is exemplifying How Skinner can't even make a basic move across. He has to throw his carcass cross crease hoping for a miracle. That goal exemplifies how easy it is to beat Skinner in the rare situations where are D are outworked and lose puck. Good mitts but Kempe punishing, loving it, and selling it. If only the Oilers org would listen. Kempe has been doing this for years. Almost like he's advertising how much Skinner sucks. Byfield too on the bank. "Hey why not, its Skinner, it'll work"
Danault rarely scores on anybody anymore but he got two by Skinner.

Did you listen to Skinner's presser?
Imagine even smiling talking about former teammate 'Foegy' who said he hates the Oilers now that he's a LAK, and Danault having a 'rainbow shot' that goes in because he lost track of the puck since ol Foegy distracted him by being in front. You're 6'4 you dumb f***.
There's literally no fire burning within this guy after getting scored on from a knucklepuck GWG. Absolutely pathetic.

 

[MessierThanThou]

I know everyone's pissed about the missed call on the punch to McDavid's head from Byfield but it really looked like McDavid threw a Messier style elbow to Byfield's head right before. I rewound it many times. Sure looked like it. He needs to be careful. Can't get suspended. Anyone else see it?

You're preaching to the wrong choir.

 

[MikeS24]

but first he team was a no-show in the first 39 minutes...why was that?

Game was 5-5. Cancels that out. You worry about that for game 2 b/c we cannot afford to go down 2-0

What happened at 5-5, even with a bad decision by Bouchard, was that a pathetic floater went in on swiss cheese.

That's all there is to it. You can't go back and talk about the 39 minutes when the game gets tied.

It's a new ball game and Skinner struck out.

No matter how much rope this doofus gets, he will find a way to hang himself.

Anybody ever watch that Tik Tok video of the stupid goat who keeps running into a burning fireplace and the owner takes him out and the goat keeps running back into it?

That's Skinner. He keeps getting chances and keeps running right back into that fireplace.

 

[Drivesaitl]

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This isn't vintage CuJo with an off game.. You simply can't go back to him. This isn't minor hockey, KK can't look his players in the eye and put him back in net..

I said this last night but can you even Imagine the crescendos of Skinner sucks chants the moment he hits the ice for pregame, for pre drop of puck. Place will be bedlam on Skinner even before puck drop. It'll be a wave of Skinner chants throughout.

For Skinners sake even you don't start him in game 2. For the Oilers own sake you shouldn't do that.

 

[McAsuno]

Also, something a lot of his apologists miss: yes, Bouchard will f*** up and lead to a shot against, but if that shot against is weak and it still goes in, that's way more on Skinner than it is on Bouchard.

Bouchard played like an idiot last night also. But like I said, he brings more good than harm to this club. Skinner on the other hand is just net negative shit.