Post-Game Talk: The Sieve We Know

[MessierThanThou]

Who's he responding to? (Must have that poster on ignored)

The guy who changed his name and profile pic so he could have a fresh start on here because nobody took him seriously: basically declaring credibility bankruptcy.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

You're imagining that the Oilers do this more than other teams. It happens, sure, and it's frustrating when it does, but it is not comparable with Skinner crapping the bed.

It’s. The. Playoffs. The team is 3-11 in game 1s in the McDavid era. You can’t keep falling behind every series and expect to come out on top. So yes there is some precedent to the team being consistently slow out of the gate.

Ironically two of those three wins are with Skinner in net.

 

[GMofOilers]

I mean look at that save. That goal goes in on Skinner 10/10 times and his defenders would blame it on the team in front and then say that's too good of a scoring attempt that a goalie can't make a save on.

A LAK player can do the same thing, and fat f*** 74 would still be on dial up internet connection trying to move laterally and then have a surprised face seconds after the puck is in the net with the kings cheering as a result.

This kinda play happens multiple times every night

This kinda save happens multiple times in a game

 

[McAsuno]

The guy who changed his name and profile pic so he could have a fresh start on here because nobody took him seriously: basically declaring credibility bankruptcy.

Let me guess!

 

[McAsuno]

This kinda play happens multiple times every night

This kinda save doesn't happen multiple times in a game with Stuart Skinner in net

Fixed.

 

[aqib]

I don't know if we should take the 3rd period rally as a positive sign or the first 2 periods as a negative sign. Either way we have to wait until game 2 before we can tell who we really are.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Let me guess!

 

[Fishy McScales]

It’s. The. Playoffs. The team is 3-11 in game 1s in the McDavid era. You can’t keep falling behind every series and expect to come out on top. So yes there is some precedent to the team being consistently slow out of the gate.

They scored 5 goals which should be enough, shouldn't it?

This team has to outscore their poor goaltending. They often do, but often it's insurmountable. That is why they get the benefit of the doubt unlike Stu.

Which was the point. Which you've forgotten. Now tell me about something really awful Steve Tambellini did fifteen years ago.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

That game reminded me of Game 1 vs Calgary a few playoffs, where the Oilers erased a 4 goal deficit and it was all for naught.

And Calgary were the favorites and then we took them out in 5 IIRC. Hopefully history repeats itself.

 

[McAsuno]

Like I said last night, the very few Stuart Skinner supporters would still blame the car for running over their family members if Stu's the one driving. Bunch of morons.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Like I said last night, it was a vintage performance by Connor McDavid skewered once again by vintage Stuart Skinner. If we won that game in OT, the kings morale would've dropped even more heading into G2. Granted they're gonna be more cautious especially with 97 on the ice even further, but it just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth seeing the team make a huge comeback only for 74 to let in a weak ass knucklepuck with seconds left in the game.

But at least this shows the kings defense and Kuemper are both solvable. The team needs to start rolling immediately once puck drop starts in G2. No excuses.

Skinner was terrible. Will add the team in front also wasn't great notably Bouch with some tough decision making and penalties were costly early in digging the hole. This team needs a better, athletic tender behind it because it will leak quality, not necessarily quantity chances and deserves a guy who can bail out their risk taking. Way too much volatility in Skinner's game. Added to poor decision breakdowns and it's a bad mix.

 

[bobbythebrain]

What? Drai almost never fires one timers from the top of the circle because he plays down low. You have no idea what you are on about man.

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That's not even the point anyway: Skinner in his career in the playoffs, prorated over an 82 game season rate, would give up over 25 goals above expected. That is calamitous.

I never said top.circle...i said further away. The point being you're an Oilers fan. So it's hilarious Drai gets praises for goals of the same nature while you make it sound like Skinner should have easily made the save from a similar shot.....excuse....and even closer shot

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

They scored 5 goals which should be enough, shouldn't it?

This team has to outscore their poor goaltending. They often do, but often it's insurmountable. That is why they get the benefit of the doubt unlike Stu.

Which was the point. Which you've forgotten. Now tell me about something really awful Steve Tambellini did fifteen years ago.

They started trying when the game was effectively over. What was stopping them from scoring said goals during the first two periods when they were completely flat? That’s my concern. There’s a reason why they mentioned that four goal comebacks are exceedingly rare.

If anything it makes the first two periods even more frustrating because they managed jack shit for two periods and once again had to rely on two players to carry the mail. If they started the game on time they win.

Until this team wins the Cup they should be held to a degree of scrutiny. Letting them off the hook for not trying is absurd.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Bro sure Skinner could have stopped that shot, but it was a complete BS flub so COME ON.

Bouchard is way more at fault for his lack of compete on that goal.

STU battled hard and he starts next game.

It’s funny how you bash Bouchard while defending skinner is the same post.

 

[Fishy McScales]

They started trying when the game was effectively over. What was stopping them from scoring said goals during the first two periods when they were completely flat? That’s my concern. There’s a reason why they mentioned that four goal comebacks are exceedingly rare.

If anything it makes the first two periods even more frustrating because they managed jack shit for two periods and once again had to rely on two players to carry the mail. If they started the game on time they win.

Until this team wins the Cup they should be held to a degree of scrutiny. Letting them off the hook for not trying is absurd.

Again, THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. Are you familiar with the term?

They do this sometimes. All teams do. But they bounce back.

Skinner is constantly a threat to implode.

 

[Balakay14]

Especially Lowetide. I had to stop listening to the boring sounding dude after he kept stroking Skinners shlong all year and would have no talk about upgrading lol.

Then some woman with hard numbers cut down Skinner an he kind of changes his mind pre deadline.

Just remember folks. Him and most of the media. They are not that smart. Don't put too much into anything these guys talk about.

Lowetide wrote a terrible piece for The Athletic about a month and a half ago defending Skinner where his argument was essentially, "if you take away all of his bad starts, his 5 on 5 save percentage is actually pretty good". And he completely ignored any other metrics for evaluating goaltending besides 5 on 5 save percentage.

 

[McAsuno]

Skinner was terrible. Will add the team in front also wasn't great notably Bouch with some tough decision making and penalties were costly early in digging the hole. This team needs a better, athletic tender behind it because it will leak quality, not necessarily quantity chances and deserves a guy who can bail out their risk taking. Way too much volatility in Skinner's game. Added to poor decision breakdowns and it's a bad mix.

Even asking Skinner simply to move laterally from post to post is asking for too much. Guy's literally on dial up internet connection 99% of the time. Seeing his 'stunned' face after Danault's knucklepuck was disgusting to see especially after Connor tied the game.

In regards to coaching, Knoblauch better not f***ing play J Brown again either. If Stecher's still not ready to go, I'd still rather play Dineen over J Brown. Dineen can at least skate and move the puck. J Brown can't do shit other than looking like a piece of meat for the kings licking their chops when he's on the ice. Was a huge mistake playing him which resulted in only 4:54 TOI the whole game and had the other 5 D playing extra minutes is inexcusable of Knob. Frankly getting real sick and tired of his coaching decisions too.

 

[Stoneman89]

So many bad things in this game.

Topped off of course by the shit cherry Skinner provided at the end. Pickard HAS to start next game.

The entire team though, including Draisaitl and McDavid need to show up from the opening whistle. Playing 20 minutes isn't a recipe for sustained success.

Bouch with another head up his ass game.

Wallman was bad, but I think he's playing hurt.

And wtf was Knob thinking putting Josh Brown out to kill a penalty on the Kings fist PP?

I think we'll come out much better on Wednesday, to give ourselves a chance.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Again, THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. Are you familiar with the term?

They do this sometimes. All teams do. But they bounce back.

Skinner is constantly a threat to implode.

Why do they get the benefit of the doubt? Why is it okay to consistently fall behind in playoff series? One more slow start like that and they’ll be hitting the links.

 

[bobbythebrain]

The guy who changed his name and profile pic so he could have a fresh start on here because nobody took him seriously: basically declaring credibility bankruptcy.

Fresh start lol. Not even close, but nice try. Same poster, same style, same post history.. different pic. It's not rocket appliances.

 

[Canovin]

I mean look at that save. That goal goes in on Skinner 10/10 times and his defenders would blame it on the team in front and then say that's too good of a scoring attempt that a goalie can't make a save on.

A LAK player can do the same thing, and fat f*** 74 would still be on dial up internet connection trying to move laterally and then have a surprised face seconds after the puck is in the net with the kings cheering as a result.

Stuart + 2nd would have gotten us Blackwood.

 

[fireantz]

I dont think anyone disagrees that the Oil have to be better for the first 40 mins.

But at some point we need a big save, which he never does. So not only does he often play below average, he also is the king of back breaking, soul crushing softies. Both of these are true. We can often overcome our slow starts, we usually do not overcome Stu.

He made several big saves in the first two periods when his mates managed 0 on 10 shots. As an OLD goalie positive momentum has a lot to do with tenders confidence.

 

[PinSeeker]

So many bad things in this game.

Topped off of course by the shit cherry Skinner provided at the end. Pickard HAS to start next game.

The entire team though, including Draisaitl and McDavid need to show up from the opening whistle. Playing 20 minutes isn't a recipe for sustained success.

Bouch with another head up his ass game.

Wallman was bad, but I think he's playing hurt.

And wtf was Knob thinking putting Josh Brown out to kill a penalty on the Kings fist PP?

I think we'll come out much better on Wednesday, to give ourselves a chance.

Truly I do think the rust was getting shaken off the first 30-40 mins. These guys haven't all been in the lineup together for a couple of weeks now...

 

[ToeMcDrag83]

I'm livid at that one. How the f***, HOW THE f***, do you watch that generational, practically single-handed comeback from McDavid, saving you from yet another 5-spot goals against and not LOCK THE f*** IN for 1 minute to track a simple 3 on 2 and stop a floater going 5 miles an hour that a toddler learning basic motor skills could have stopped? HOW?!

Stu f***ing Skinner alone giving the Kings hope. Kings had the refs in their pockets all f***ing game, and we still get it to 5-5, but Stu f***ing Skinner. We steal that game, this series is over in 4. But no, that stupid motherf***er can't get on momentum train with the rest of the team, he's gotta kill it himself. f***!

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He made several big saves in the first two periods when his mates managed 0 on 10 shots. As an OLD goalie positive momentum has a lot to do with tenders confidence.

He didn't he made a couple all game, and absolutely CANNOT allow goals 2 and 6, he fundamentally cannot, but here we are.

HE, Stuart Skinner, was not good enough. The team wasn't perfect, but you can f*** right off if you're not going to lay alot of this at Stu's feet.