The Sens are 4th in the league in WAR lost due to injuries.

[Tanknation]

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Technically if you take away Ellis ltiretirement injury, Sens would actually be third in the league in WAR lost behind Colorado and Vegas (Which shows how terrifying both of those teams are fully healthy).

Canadiens suffered the most injuries overall, however many of their injured players were a net negative to begin with.

This actually gives me some hope for the senators next season if rhey can get a better coach and a healthier roster.

I guess Montréal's top goal scorer was a net negative along with their best young D stud, along with their number 1 D for significant time, a top 3C as well. Very Odd take as the list goes on.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I guess Montréal's top goal scorer was a net negative along with their best young D stud. Odd take.

They were severely outplayed by those that took their place.

 

[Tanknation]

They were severely outplayed by those that took their place.

Caufield, Ghule, Monhanan, Matheson etc were severely outplayed by who exactly?

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Caufield, Ghule, Monhanan, Matheson etc were severely outplayed by who exactly?

Not saying all were outplayed. Losing Caufield did hurt. However, Xhekaj, Slafkovsky, etc. all had a negative WAR, meaning their injuries actually lead to a player taking their place doing better than them for the team victories.

 

[Tanknation]

Not saying all were outplayed. Losing Caufield did hurt. However, Xhekaj, Slafkovsky, etc. all had a negative WAR, meaning their injuries actually lead to a player taking their place doing better than them for the team victories.

No, no they actually didn't. XHEKAJ made the team out of training camp and got injured as well. SLaf too out of camp and was not very good. So no idea what you are tlaking about

 

[NyQuil]

Not saying all were outplayed. Losing Caufield did hurt. However, Xhekaj, Slafkovsky, etc. all had a negative WAR, meaning their injuries actually lead to a player taking their place doing better than them for the team victories.

All it means is that they performed worse than a "replacement level player" would have statistically, not that their actual replacements were better.

The output is an estimate of how many more games a player’s team won than they would have if they had instead played a “replacement level” player in those minutes. A replacement-level player is a fringe 13th forward or 7th defenceman, the kind of depth player that teams could easily acquire for almost nothing.

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[bert]

Next year is a make or break for Dorion and the Senators.

Dorion should not be back next year. Its not make or break when your two best players are 20 and 21 years old.

 

[NyQuil]

Dorion should not be back next year. Its not make or break when your two best players are 20 and 21 years old.

It might be make or break in terms of the roster in how it is currently comprised.

 

[JT Kreider]

They also made the worst trade of the offseason but go off sis

 

[Lavar Ball]

Dorion should not be back next year. Its not make or break when your two best players are 20 and 21 years old.

Sanderson is already better than Tkachuk now? This is escalating quickly...

 

[bert]

It might be make or break in terms of the roster in how it is currently comprised.

How so? Everyone important is locked up except Sanderson and Pinto.

 

[NyQuil]

How so? Everyone important is locked up except Sanderson and Pinto.

Because they will have missed the playoffs 7 years in a row.

Maybe something will need to change.

 

[Golden_Jet]

do not get this thread. Only Chabot was a core player who missed key time. 5 players have played in 81 games. Sens just did not have good depth. The Sens are like the oilers of a short time ago. 6 good players and the rest scrubs. Chych does not count--he was late to the show

Ever heard of their number 1 goal scorer from last year, he’s played about 6 games.
Zub, Talbot , Forsberg.
The chart shows how they’ve been hurt.

 

[Dubi Doo]

OP may have had good intentions, but this thread will just make Ottawa a punching bag for posters.

To be honest, injuries likely kept them from reaching their full potential.

 

[bert]

Because they will have missed the playoffs 7 years in a row.

Maybe something will need to change.

They already changed too much trying to speed it up faster than they needed to. Enough with the changes.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Why would you count Formenton? The sens decided not to sign him.

They qualified him, he didn’t accept it.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Caufield, Ghule, Monhanan, Matheson etc were severely outplayed by who exactly?

Caufield scored 26 goals, Norris 2
26 > 2

 

[WarriorofTime]

I'm not sure if Formenton is included in the statistic as he's not injured, but yes, he is also not in the line-up unexpectedly.

He’s not under contract with speculation that he was the ring leader of the Canada Juniors alleged gang rape. So it’s unlikely he plays for Ottawa for a while, if ever.

 

[NyQuil]

He’s not under contract with speculation that he was the ring leader of the Canada Juniors alleged gang rape. So it’s unlikely he plays for Ottawa for a while, if ever.

Tell me something I don’t know.

 

[Machinehead]

I need to find out what fiber the Rangers are on and recommend it to some of my other teams.

 

[Tanknation]

Caufield scored 26 goals, Norris 2
26 > 2

Norris 2 26? Huh. Habs had way more injuries and impacted players. Just no idea what the argument was even. Beyond ridiculous what poster said about players that were injured were net negative

 

[Golden_Jet]

He’s not under contract with speculation that he was the ring leader of the Canada Juniors alleged gang rape. So it’s unlikely he plays for Ottawa for a while, if ever.

I think Sens fans are aware.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I think Sens fans are aware.

Yeah but others may not as people were asking about him.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

They qualified him, he didn’t accept it.

His qualifying offer wouldve been like 1 M or less. There's no way he would accept that.
The sens couldve easily signed him to a contract after that, but didnt.

 

[AvalancheRy]

Seems to me the more interesting topic is Vegas or Colorado playing so well despite being injured so much. Vegas is going to be incredibly scary if Stone comes back healthy.