Prospect Info: The Second Overall Pick Thread: Part I (Kakko/Hughes Talk)

[NernieBichols]

I want to hear one poster admit we would have been screwed for tanking had we ended up in the bottom 3 and that playing the season straight now looks sooooo much better than Tanking. We played a honest season and came out with a better pick than most were allowing themselves to hope for

So how about alil objectivity and crow eating and humble pie and just remembering going forward that maybe these guys in the FO are doing things the right way.

Maybe?
All of us armchair GMs and the ‘used to be scouts and writers’ who are now just posting here with the rest of the common folk.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Forget a top 10 pick next year. This team is going all in for the playoffs now imo. This accelerates the rebuild big time.

Except there is nothing to suggest that the Rangers are going all in besides your fevered dreams.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

I get excited with the idea of either Hughes or Kakko. Either way we can't lose.

Either you get a high end center or a big, physical winger.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Forget a top 10 pick next year. This team is going all in for the playoffs now imo. This accelerates the rebuild big time.

It accelerates the rebuild, but we’re not a playoff team yet. Honestly we’re probably not close still.

After unloading Zucc and Hayes the Rangers were clearly on the downswing. The development of the youngsters + Kakko isn’t enough to make up for that yet. And that’s fine.

But this definitely speeds things up! Still can’t believe it to be honest.

 

[The don godfather]

Imagine with this team can look like in June 2020 after the draft. Its really hard not to get ahead of myself.

Devils will be more scarier just saying. Hughes and hischier is ridiculous .

 

[darko]

Forget a top 10 pick next year. This team is going all in for the playoffs now imo. This accelerates the rebuild big time.

Not so sure. I think they'll lay off free agency.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Devils will be more scarier just saying. Hughes and hischier is ridiculous .

They don’t have the overall depth that the Rangers do.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Devils will be more scarier just saying. Hughes and hischier is ridiculous .

Definitely a dangerous center combo, but the Devils literally have nothing else to work with. All of their remaining young guys, sans Ty Smith, are average at best.

 

[darko]

They don’t have the overall depth that the Rangers do.

Agree. Hughes and Hirsch is scary but they look very top heavy.

 

[The don godfather]

They don’t have the overall depth that the Rangers do.

Cups are usually won down the middle bergy and krecji. Malkin and Crosby. Lemieux Francis. Gretzky messier. Etc
New Jersey got 2 superstars.

 

[Do you want ants]

Cups are usually won down the middle bergy and krecji. Malkin and Crosby. Lemieux Francis. Gretzky messier. Etc
New Jersey got 2 superstars.

So does Edmonton and look at them. The Devils will have a solid foundation down the middle, but they lack almost every where else.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Agree. Hughes and Hirsch is scary but they look very top heavy.

They don’t have what the Rangers have on defense in Miller, Lundkvist, Keane and Tarmo. They have Smith. Plus, the Rangers are adding at least one additional 1st rounder in this year’s draft, if not more.

 

[bigdog16]

Forget a top 10 pick next year. This team is going all in for the playoffs now imo. This accelerates the rebuild big time.

Next years draft is apparently loaded

 

[Ghost of jas]

Cups are usually won down the middle bergy and krecji. Malkin and Crosby. Lemieux Francis. Gretzky messier. Etc
New Jersey got 2 superstars.

I don’t think Hischier is better than Zibanejad. They’ll add Hughes, we’ll add Kakko.

 

[darko]

Next years draft is apparently loaded

Yup. That's what I heard.

 

[NernieBichols]

Cups are usually won down the middle bergy and krecji. Malkin and Crosby. Lemieux Francis. Gretzky messier. Etc
New Jersey got 2 superstars.

Who? Cuz hall is leaving and hirscher isn’t a superstar. Guess you gotta hope you pick the right guy

 

[tomobson]

Do the devils needs a winger or center more?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Do the devils needs a winger or center more?

They’re more than likely taking Hughes. Shero has connections to the Hughes family.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

I don’t think Hischier is better than Zibanejad. They’ll add Hughes, we’ll add Kakko.

I think Hischier will be better. But not by much - I think they line up fairly well.

Smith as a prospect is probably slightly higher than Miller (although Millers potential is way higher). Then it’s like 5 Rangers.

Forward and goalie depth are not close either.

 

[Fitzy]

Devils will be more scarier just saying. Hughes and hischier is ridiculous .

McDavid and Draisaitl is more ridiculous.

I'm thrilled we will likely get a top player but there's more to it than that.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

 

[darko]

I think Hischier will be better. But not by much - I think they line up fairly well.

Smith as a prospect is probably slightly higher than Miller (although Millers potential is way higher). Then it’s like 5 Rangers.

Forward and goalie depth are not close either.

I'd take Smith over Miller.

 

[eco's bones]

I want to hear one poster admit we would have been screwed for tanking had we ended up in the bottom 3 and that playing the season straight now looks sooooo much better than Tanking. We played a honest season and came out with a better pick than most were allowing themselves to hope for

So how about alil objectivity and crow eating and humble pie and just remembering going forward that maybe these guys in the FO are doing things the right way.

Maybe?
All of us armchair GMs and the ‘used to be scouts and writers’ who are now just posting here with the rest of the common folk.

Post deadline my comment was 'we win when we win and we win when we lose'. To parse that out it was evident we weren't going to the playoffs but I didn't want us not competing and not winning at all. I think the coaching staff and team took the right approach which was to go into every game and try to get the two points. That we were seriously depleted is one thing but we also have a bunch of kids who are our future and you don't want them developing a failing mentality. So we won some games--stole some even and I kind of liked seeing that. I liked seeing them back each other up too--we must have been close to leading the league in fights. We led the league in penalty minutes--we also lost a lot of one goal games or two goal games with empty nets scored against us which are really one goal games. So the Rangers when they did lose were close in most of their games. They were trying all year long--that makes the team a lot easier to like.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I think Hischier will be better. But not by much - I think they line up fairly well.

Smith as a prospect is probably slightly higher than Miller (although Millers potential is way higher). Then it’s like 5 Rangers.

Forward and goalie depth are not close either.

I think Hischier probably develops quicker than Zibanejad, but they end up in the same place. NJ will likely have the edge in the top two centers, depending what happens next year. But, make no mistake about it, having anywhere from 9 to 11 1sts over a four year period compared to four is going to skew the talent comparison between the two teams heavily towards the Rangers.

 

[Kovalev27]

They don’t have what the Rangers have on defense in Miller, Lundkvist, Keane and Tarmo. They have Smith. Plus, the Rangers are adding at least one additional 1st rounder in this year’s draft, if not more.

Not to mention 23 year old stud DeAngelo, Hajek and Rykov who they gave us