The San Jose Sharks are horror-bad

[Pancakes]

Sid wasn’t a tank. It was a post-lockout unweighted lottery. Even odds for all teams. They lucked into the first pick.

That's correct but the Pens were very much awful prior to that lockout. If the 04 05 season had been played we would have been the worst team no question

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

Thank god they didn’t get Bedard. They strangely seem to think they still have a shot at him though.

Bedard went to a team that tanked even worse than the Sharks did last year. Not sure what your point is, lol.

 

[BlueBull]

The Sharks mega sucks a year too late. Celebrini is no Bedard

He aint no Bedard, but he is arguably the 2nd best Draft Prospect since Jack Hughes.

He is certainly a Potential Franchise Player.

 

[sepHF]

Even after giving up back to back 10 GA the sharks still have a better save percentage than the Oilers

 

[The New Russian Five]

Even after giving up back to back 10 GA the sharks still have a better save percentage than the Oilers

All that means is that the Sharks have better goaltending than the oilers. That also implies that when comparing the teams in front of the goalie, the Sharks are far worse than the Oilers.

 

[clydesdale line]

Bedard went to a team that tanked even worse than the Sharks did last year. Not sure what your point is, lol.

The Hawks finished 3rd last season. Their GM might've tried to tank for Bedard but their head coach (and players) certainly did not.

 

[ClydeLee]

They're already in year 5 of not coming close to challenging for a playoff spot, the problem is the first 3.5 of those years were by accident

It's only natural the Sharks are as bad as they currently are, they spent over a decade mortgaging the future making win now moves and it caught up with them, the real mistakes came at the end of the competitive window when they doubled down on long term deals to aging players instead of reloading for the future, this made it so they not only lacked the picks and prospects needed to rebuild in earnest but they were also tied to boat anchor contracts that kept them from trading their veterans for those future assets at any decent value

Ironically, the one guy they cut bait with because he was "too old" was Joe Pavelski, and he's still going strong 5 years later, they decided it was smarter to invest in Evander Kane rather than keep their captain, huge mistake

The last 4 years of Doug Wilson desperately flailing to keep the ship afloat set the franchise back a decade, his moves from the summer of 2019 through his firing essentially undid all the hard work he put into building a sustainably competitive franchise

If they had just managed to win 2 more games in 2016 this would all have been seen as worth it, but they didn't, so now it's just a sad tale of what not to do when your aging core is falling apart

That's the same as the Blackhawks or Red Wings or other teams in this boat. The Penguins will probably be there soon too. It's what happens for trying to extend beyond your window and then you finally actually have to start to rebuild forward from scratch

 

[Dirty Dan]

The league needs to step in at this point, have the Sharks play in AHL for the year and call up another team

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

The Hawks finished 3rd last season. Their GM might've tried to tank for Bedard but their head coach (and players) certainly did not.

And? I’m always talking about the organization when I mention tanking. Fact is the Hawks GM tanked (not “might’ve tried to,”) for Bedard and was successful.

 

[Digital Kid]

This appears to be along the lines of the 1943-44 New York Rangers who struggled more than the other five teams icing a competitive squad due to WW2 drafts etc.

But what we are all looking for in a rubber-necking car crash sort of way is challenging the 8-67-5 winning percentage record...

 

[clydesdale line]

And? I’m always talking about the organization when I mention tanking. Fact is the Hawks GM tanked (not “might’ve tried to,”) for Bedard and was successful.

So did the Ducks, Jackets, Yotes, etc. so not sure what your point is. No one team "did it the best" over the other. They all did.

 

[Xelebes]

This appears to be along the lines of the 1943-44 New York Rangers who struggled more than the other five teams icing a competitive squad due to WW2 drafts etc.

But what we are all looking for in a rubber-necking car crash sort of way is challenging the 8-67-5 winning percentage record...

Washington Capitals of 1974-1975 had three games with -10 differential, with seven games letting in 10 goals or more, all in a 78 game season.

The 1943-1944 New York Rangers had two games with -10 differential with seven games letting in 10 goals or more, all in a 50 game season.

 

[seafoam]

I mean his team is historically bad thus fas, and I get that he wants to tank, but at what point is it so bad that he’s better off making some improvements so that his club can at least be competitive on a nightly basis.

There are still young pieces on the team that they are projecting to be part of the solution (at least I think). You don’t want to run those kids out of town either…

 

[BallardEra]

What should he do?

 

[BWJM]

He has to be in a tough spot.

Everyone knew the Sharks would be bad, but not quite worst in history bad. Feel for Grier, but good on him for taking on this massive project lol.

Definitely has the difficulty dial fully cranked.

 

[Laus723]

What exactly should he do? Most teams are capped and aren’t really clamoring to get the guys on that team, outside of a few.

 

[Horvat1C]

My impression is that Grier actually thought his team would not be bottom-5.

 

[Turin]

He should try to make them worse, just to see what happens.

 

[andora]

Nobody tanks

 

[heretik27]

No point starting a rebuild only to trade away futures for pieces that may help them win a few games now. It's pretty obvious they aren't contending this year.

 

[Lt Dan]

He should trade for Gretzky!

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I mean... What do you think he should do?

 

[Chainshot]

About the only move I could see right now is firing Quinn to bring in someone who has more of a motivational, team-first, circle the wagons mentality. This need not be a long-term hire, more of an interim thing to at least keep some level of pride in the room and among the die-hard fans while trying to build through the draft and prospect development.

 

[ThePlanet]

He should try to make them worse, just to see what happens.

A double-negative like that would probably improve the team.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

What can he do?