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The Ryane Clowe Poll - Re-Sign him or Let him Walk?

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voted no only because he'll want too much $. he's an injury risk. came out of the gate with a few beastly games but he was a very slow skater. he admitted the lockout hurt his speed. i understand he's so big that it'll take a guy his size longer than someone like zucc to get into peak physical condition, but we have so many cap issues to straighten out that he is a very low priority.

also we have a legacy of guys signing deals with us who have underperformed (or have been injured) in the HOPES that they will snap out of it, get healthy again and perform.

i think we need a guy who's recently proven something. or take a risk on a rookie and push him into the big leagues a little early. let him learn the defense as he goes along and don't bench him for every little mistake he makes. this team can sometimes baby their players too much. we need to take some healthy risks here (no pun intended).
 
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Clowe would like to return to Rangers in 2013-14
GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- After being traded from the San Jose Sharks to the New York Rangers on April 2, Ryane Clowe played 14 games, including two in the Stanley Cup Playoffs, limited due to injury. In the wake of the Rangers' elimination by the Boston Bruins in the Eastern Conference Semifinals, the forward said he would entertain the idea of playing more games for New York next season and beyond.

"I loved it here," Clowe said Monday when the Rangers met the media for the final time this season. "I loved the guys. It's a first-class organization and it was just special putting on a Rangers jersey. I really felt that way and I'd love to come back."

Clowe can become an unrestricted free agent July 5. He'll be 31 years old when next season starts and he's coming off a four-year, $14.5 million contract he signed with the San Jose Sharks. The Rangers also have to worry about re-signing restricted free agents Ryan McDonagh, Derek Stepan, Carl Hagelin and Mats Zuccarello, with the NHL salary cap dropping to $64.3 million for the 2013-14 season.

"I'm open to negotiate to find a way to stay here, there's no question about that," Clowe said. "Everyone wants to win in New York."

But the question for Clowe entering this summer, other than if the Rangers can afford him, is his health and how that will affect him in contract negotiations. Clowe missed the last game of the regular season and the first three games of the playoffs with what is believed to be a concussion. He returned for Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Quarterfinals against the Washington Capitals, but played three shifts in Game 5 before a hit into the boards from forward Jason Chimera effectively ended Clowe's run in the playoffs. Clowe would not specify the nature of his injury when asked specifically about it Monday and said he didn't come back too soon from his first injury. But he added that he feels better now, and had the series against the Bruins gone further he may have been able to return.

"Obviously you guys [the media] know I got hit from behind right away," Clowe said. "I took a pretty hard hit and not in a position I usually put myself in. It just happened quick. It was from that hit."

Rangers coach John Tortorella said Clowe was missed, especially against the Bruins.

"He's the type of player you need in the playoffs," Tortorella said. "He's experienced. He's a big body. He's good on the boards. He can score goals. There is no question that he would have made a difference in that series. I'm not sure if we'd beat them if Marc [Staal] and [Clowe] are in there, I'm not going to say that, but he would have helped because that's the type of player you're looking for as you go through the grind of a regular season and you get into the playoffs. You look at his record, he's a good playoff performer."

Clowe said the most important thing for him to do now is rest and make sure he is fully recovered because he knows that if he does hit the open market, any team that wants to sign him will want to make sure he is healthy.

"Obviously when you finish a year not playing people are going to ask some questions, and that's why you've just got to take the next couple of weeks to feel better and get a clean bill of health from the doctor," Clowe said. "That's all you can do."

Provided he gets healthy, Clowe said he doesn't think his injuries this season will hurt him this summer. He cited his resume, which includes 46 points in 70 career playoff games.

"It's unfortunate I didn't get to play, but I think my body of work over the last few years -- I didn't have a good start to this year and New York still wanted me," Clowe said. "I came here and found my game again."
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I hated the Clowe trade but I thought he was ok when he was healthy. He brought something that the team lacks although he was also invisible at times.

The guys whole game is built on being a power forward. It's the only way he's effective. We don't know for sure that he's coming off two concussions but I believe the speculation and because of that I can't see the Rangers resigning Clowe. I think it would be crazy to resign him. Unless he wants to just do a 1 year extension (why would he? Somebody will pay him on the open market) We can't say all things being equal with Clowe because they aren't equal.

The Rangers have to give up a 2nd round pick in 2014 if they resign Clowe. Would that be a factor if he stayed healthy? Not a huge factor but it has to be a considered coming off two (probable) concussions.

Clowe isn't worth the additional draft pick, isn't worth the contract he will command as a free agent.....not anymore. It's too bad because Clowe fills a need. The money is best spent on somebody else.
 
-31- said:
Sign and trade. Cheat San Jose out of their pick.
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Once we sign him we lose the pick, regardless if we trade in 1 second later or not.

We dont get the pick if we sign him, we lose it.
 
-31- said:
I mean Calgary signs Clowe, trades him to New York for a conditional 7th.
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If the Rangers do that they may have trouble finding a trade partner in the future. No way Sather embarrass the San Jose organization like that. No way does Clowe's agent allow that to happen.
 
Machinehead said:
Clarkson has disappointment written all over him.
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29 yrs old,nasty and big drop gloves drop of a dime.

Clarkson -Brassard- Nash
Or
Clarkson-Stepan-Nash

For 2-3 yrs I gve it a shot. Makes NYR a lot tougher. Which is needed. Ofcourse price tag matters
 
Green Blob said:
IMO, no brainer to let him walk. Two major head injuries in the last 6 weeks, he looks slower then ever, and IMO hes on the sharp decline. Love the grit he can bring but just not worth the risk if he's going to be injured half the time.

Plus we keep our 2nd round pick if we don't re-sign him.
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The answer is not as concrete as you would like.

Depending on the $$, I say keep him.

If you can get him for 3 years at 11 million, you keep him.

4 years and 20 million you let him walk.

but I would sign him if the money was right.
 
even after a terrible season with injuries, I'm sure some team will take an expensive flier on him. If he liked it here and is willing to take a contract for $2.5M a year for 1 or 2 years, I'd say definitely bring him back, but my guess is he'll likely seek more cash and more of a sure thing, especially with a concussion or two under his belt from last year alone.
 
ecemleafs said:
I'd rather give up an extra first and sign Clowe long term than sign Clarkson.
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As much as I've come to dislike Clarkson and think he's much more likely to get a big payday than Clowe, I'm very intrigued by a 4th line of Clarkson-Boyle-Dorsett with Clarkson making his extra ice time up with some PP minutes.
 
JayQueensNY88 said:
29 yrs old,nasty and big drop gloves drop of a dime.

Clarkson -Brassard- Nash
Or
Clarkson-Stepan-Nash

For 2-3 yrs I gve it a shot. Makes NYR a lot tougher. Which is needed. Ofcourse price tag matters
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I know it was a very limited sample size, but I think it'd be a big disappointment if we don't start the season with Kreider and Nash on the same line.
 
With the cap coming down and not being sure whether this team is ready to contend (being very nice here) I don't see why you sign Clowe or Clarkson. Those are guys for when you need some secondary grit/sandpaper to push you over the top.

Plus, they are likely to get $ and term that are at least somewhat risky.
 
Green Blob said:
IMO, no brainer to let him walk. Two major head injuries in the last 6 weeks, he looks slower then ever, and IMO hes on the sharp decline. Love the grit he can bring but just not worth the risk if he's going to be injured half the time.

Plus we keep our 2nd round pick if we don't re-sign him.
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I was leaning the other way, to not waste the investment made, if he can be had for a reasonable number, even if only short term. But this ^ is significant enough.
 
Injury prone? What are you guys talking about? Other than this year he's been fine.

It all depends on what he's asking for. If it's reasonable, we NEED players like this.
 
KreiMeARiver said:
Injury prone? What are you guys talking about? Other than this year he's been fine.

It all depends on what he's asking for. If it's reasonable, we NEED players like this.
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He took a hit from Kronwall a couple years ago that conspicuously coincides with lowered performance in the playoffs. May have some lingering shoulder/head issues.
 
Fleury4ever said:
With the cap coming down and not being sure whether this team is ready to contend (being very nice here) I don't see why you sign Clowe or Clarkson. Those are guys for when you need some secondary grit/sandpaper to push you over the top.

Plus, they are likely to get $ and term that are at least somewhat risky.
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Signing UFAs is always risky--Ranger fans know plenty about that subject. But let me ask you a question: what do you think the Ranger organization has been trying to do? Sather came here in July 2000 with the vision of righting the poor Original Six team that had fallen apart since they won their first Stanley Cup in 54 years and go out with one more ring on his finger.

Thirteen years later that's still the goal and while you may think the team is not a contending one, that's absolutely not the way Sather is thinking. He's not getting any younger (god, I say that every freakin' year since I started posting on this board) and his goal is still the same--win one more time. Plus, if anything, we need more what you call grit/sandpaper--and I call snarl--to move the team as it's currently constructed beyond simply making it into the playoffs and playing a round or two.

The solution may not be Clowe because of the concussions and it may not be Clarkson (who I'm against simply because none of the other UFA signings from the Devils have worked) but Sather will sign/acquire at least one gritty wing in the hopes that he's one of the pieces this team needs to make it to the finals and beyond. And yes, even in this era of a more restricted cap, he will probably overpay.
 
It all depends on his contract demands. ~3 million/season. Done deal. ~4 million/season? Harder to swallow. Anything more, and I think it's too much.

With that being said, the Rangers need to find SOMEONE who can play in this role as a top-6/9 forward and drop the gloves well.
 
NYR Boyler87 said:
It all depends on his contract demands. ~3 million/season. Done deal. ~4 million/season? Harder to swallow. Anything more, and I think it's too much.

With that being said, the Rangers need to find SOMEONE who can play in this role as a top-6/9 forward and drop the gloves well.
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Assuming you're talking about Clowe? In which case, to me it's not the amount of money, it's the length of the contract. This guy looks like he has a lot of miles on him. More than 2 years and it's a no go for me.
 
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