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RayP
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First run today, and only 3rd since the marathon, since I've really been putting some time in cycling. Can definitely tell that the cycling had really helped with my breathing/cardio today. My pace was about the same as it normally is, but it was much smoother feeling and far less taxing.
Carl Carlson
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Intervals, mostly. 200m job, 200m sprint. Repeat for 20 minutes. I also bike around 45 minutes a day including some not-insignificant hills.
Carl Carlson
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I was thinking of doing something similar starting with the 200m interval one week and then maybe do some 400m repeats the next week. Hopefully this will help on improving my speed a little.
Hey fellas, dropping in to this thread as I've ditched the bike for the winter and moved on to running as my main source of cardio. I'm running around 65-70km over an eight-day period. My commute is 6.5km one-way so doing that twice a day over four consecutive days, take one day completely free of exercise and run 2 x 7-10km on my other days. Skate once a week too.
I recently ran my first ever 10km on my way to work last Wednesday and hit it in 55mins. I know for most of it I was doing a fairly easy pace as I was aware I had my shift ahead of me, but feel I could've hit sub-50min if I was going for 'race pace'.
I'm just here to pick up training tips and hopefully share motivation with everyone, keep ourselves going through the wet, cold winter!
I recently ran my first ever 10km on my way to work last Wednesday and hit it in 55mins. I know for most of it I was doing a fairly easy pace as I was aware I had my shift ahead of me, but feel I could've hit sub-50min if I was going for 'race pace'.
I'm just here to pick up training tips and hopefully share motivation with everyone, keep ourselves going through the wet, cold winter!
RoseTintedVisor
Frans Nielsen?!?!?
RoseTintedVisor
Frans Nielsen?!?!?
I did the Brooklyn Marathon. Hamstrings are just extra sore after every time I crank it up now. Not intense, but the duration of the soreness is longer.
I think? I prefer the Half, because the training is nowhere near as crazy and I'm done in 2 hours
but I'll probably do one full every year just for the challenge and the grind of training.1 Fuill and 5-6 Halfs per year seems cool,
drcrusher
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Feeling not quite recovered from a marathon after two weeks is not unusual. I have run marathons where I didn't feel fully recovered for up to a month after. Usually what I do is a kind of reverse taper, without intensity, after taking up to a week off running entirely (walking is usually tough the first few days, I don't bother trying to run -- besides, I've earned a few days of rest). By a month later I'm usually back up to decent mileage and effort again comfortably, but the time of recovery definitely depends on how prepared I was for the race, how hard I ran the race, etc. After foolishly finishing the Boston race in 2012 when it was 90 degrees out, it was nearly two months before I felt fully normal again, but that was an unusual situation as I completely trashed myself (pretty serious heat exhaustion over the last 10K and all for a time I'm not happy with). Even after a month my legs still felt a bit weak and I certainly wasn't up to any heavy training. I wouldn't worry about how long it takes and don't push it too much. A marathon is tough on the legs and letting them recover fully is important.
I did the Brooklyn Marathon. Hamstrings are just extra sore after every time I crank it up now. Not intense, but the duration of the soreness is longer.
I think? I prefer the Half, because the training is nowhere near as crazy and I'm done in 2 hours
1 Fuill and 5-6 Halfs per year seems cool,
It took me a good three days to recover from mine with some lingering soreness a few weeks after too.
So after high school I discovered I loved to run. Helped relieve stress and kept me in great shape. I went pretty hard for a couple years, generally running between 6-11 miles every other day.
Anyway on one of my runs I got bumped into by a car. It wasn't anything serious and I mostly avoided it (the lady was at a stop sign and started to accelerate, I noticed and pushed off the car but she bumped my left knee. Just a tad). Unfortunately since then (it's been a couple years now) I haven't really been able to run much. I've tried getting back into it several times, but after the first couple runs my knee gets super weak. It makes it almost impossible to push through it and establish amy kind of routine. Even walking up and down stairs becomes a chore.
Now every spring and fall I lose strength in my knee and bending it and putting weight on it becomes very difficult.
Any suggestions on what I can do to get myself going again? I've bought a knee brace and had limited success. I've thought about investing in a legitimate running shoe but I don't know how much they will help.
In reality I should probably find a dedicated runners forum or go to a doctor or something, but I liked to run because I had great cardio for hockey so here I am. Suggestions?
Anyway on one of my runs I got bumped into by a car. It wasn't anything serious and I mostly avoided it (the lady was at a stop sign and started to accelerate, I noticed and pushed off the car but she bumped my left knee. Just a tad). Unfortunately since then (it's been a couple years now) I haven't really been able to run much. I've tried getting back into it several times, but after the first couple runs my knee gets super weak. It makes it almost impossible to push through it and establish amy kind of routine. Even walking up and down stairs becomes a chore.
Now every spring and fall I lose strength in my knee and bending it and putting weight on it becomes very difficult.
Any suggestions on what I can do to get myself going again? I've bought a knee brace and had limited success. I've thought about investing in a legitimate running shoe but I don't know how much they will help.
In reality I should probably find a dedicated runners forum or go to a doctor or something, but I liked to run because I had great cardio for hockey so here I am. Suggestions?
RayP
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Eggberto, you need to go see a doctor. There could be some rather serious damage in your knee. I wouldn't suggest getting into any type of vigorous running or strength routine without getting it checked out.
Mine have also taken about 3 days to not feel any joint/foot discomfort or muscle soreness... but after that, it all goes away. I made the mistake of really overdoing it last year. I ran a marathon, took 2 days off, and then ran a 5K, 10K, and 1/2 marathon all within a week of the marathon. Ended up getting what I self-diagnosed as IT band syndrome, which took almost 3 months to get rid of.
Not trying to brag, but my muscles never felt fatigued or sore after those first 3 days, not last year or this year... but last year I was stupid about not recovering properly. This year I've only ran twice since the MCM back in late October, but I've been biking 4-5 times a week. Leg still haven't felt all that fatigued or tired.
Mine have also taken about 3 days to not feel any joint/foot discomfort or muscle soreness... but after that, it all goes away. I made the mistake of really overdoing it last year. I ran a marathon, took 2 days off, and then ran a 5K, 10K, and 1/2 marathon all within a week of the marathon. Ended up getting what I self-diagnosed as IT band syndrome, which took almost 3 months to get rid of.
Not trying to brag, but my muscles never felt fatigued or sore after those first 3 days, not last year or this year... but last year I was stupid about not recovering properly. This year I've only ran twice since the MCM back in late October, but I've been biking 4-5 times a week. Leg still haven't felt all that fatigued or tired.
waffledave
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Back in September I randomly passed out at work. Was a whole ordeal... They called an ambulance and everything. Brutally embarrassing.
They aren't exactly sure why... I think it was a mix of not feeling well, stress, anxiety, etc... but I've had a ton of tests since then that have all come back positive. Cardio, neuro, blood work... all showing I am in exceptional physical condition. When I passed out, they almost took me to the hospital because my heart rate was 54 bpm, and I actually had to explain to the EMT that my heart rate is normally this low because of how much I've been working on my cardio.
In any case, I feel that I may have been over doing it a bit in terms of workouts... Was running 8km 3x a week and working out 3x a week, all while keeping my calories below 1800/day. Considering I'm less than 1 year removed from being 60 lbs heavier and a straight up couch potato, it may have been too much too soon.
So since September, I have been slacking off bigtime. I went down to running 9km 2x a week, then 1x a week... Then I went 3 weeks without running at all... Last week only managed 6km in 30 minutes before I had to stop...
I haven't gained any weight but I am disappointed I let go of my routine. I used to CRAVE my runs all day long and now when I get home I just find excuses for not going. I'm too tired, it's dark out, etc... I'm sure the snow storms and the pitch black at 5 pm stuff doesn't help, but still. I also made a big life change and quit my job to change careers, go back to school and follow a lifelong dream of mine, which caused me immense stress and anxiety, but I am past that now and should be able to get back on the horse.
Anways, not really asking for advice, just ranting. I committed to running a half marathon in April and I got my dad so inspired by my fitness that he is training to run with me, so I can't let him down! At 61 years old he's in better shape than most people I know.
I think the commute is what kills me, ultimately. I am hyped up and motivated at 4 pm, I have my pre-run snack and get all ready to do it... Then I bundle up, put on my crap, take the subway home, walk in the pitch black cold, trek through snow... Get the dog dressed up, take her for a walk... By the time I'm done, there's no way I'm going for a run anymore.
They aren't exactly sure why... I think it was a mix of not feeling well, stress, anxiety, etc... but I've had a ton of tests since then that have all come back positive. Cardio, neuro, blood work... all showing I am in exceptional physical condition. When I passed out, they almost took me to the hospital because my heart rate was 54 bpm, and I actually had to explain to the EMT that my heart rate is normally this low because of how much I've been working on my cardio.
In any case, I feel that I may have been over doing it a bit in terms of workouts... Was running 8km 3x a week and working out 3x a week, all while keeping my calories below 1800/day. Considering I'm less than 1 year removed from being 60 lbs heavier and a straight up couch potato, it may have been too much too soon.
So since September, I have been slacking off bigtime. I went down to running 9km 2x a week, then 1x a week... Then I went 3 weeks without running at all... Last week only managed 6km in 30 minutes before I had to stop...
I haven't gained any weight but I am disappointed I let go of my routine. I used to CRAVE my runs all day long and now when I get home I just find excuses for not going. I'm too tired, it's dark out, etc... I'm sure the snow storms and the pitch black at 5 pm stuff doesn't help, but still. I also made a big life change and quit my job to change careers, go back to school and follow a lifelong dream of mine, which caused me immense stress and anxiety, but I am past that now and should be able to get back on the horse.
Anways, not really asking for advice, just ranting. I committed to running a half marathon in April and I got my dad so inspired by my fitness that he is training to run with me, so I can't let him down! At 61 years old he's in better shape than most people I know.
I think the commute is what kills me, ultimately. I am hyped up and motivated at 4 pm, I have my pre-run snack and get all ready to do it... Then I bundle up, put on my crap, take the subway home, walk in the pitch black cold, trek through snow... Get the dog dressed up, take her for a walk... By the time I'm done, there's no way I'm going for a run anymore.
RayP
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Dave, that sucks, but I went through a similar situation. I ran to get in shape, and like you, craved it. After I lost that weight, I became complacent and running then turned into a chore, even though I loved it when I actually did it.
So I did what you did, I signed up for races. Those kept me in check, and running.
So I did what you did, I signed up for races. Those kept me in check, and running.
Hi everyone, another runner here. I started running in 2008, started racing in 2010, and try to get at least 3 miles in a day. I've run 67 races since 2010, 4 of which were marathons. I enjoy talking with fellow runners so I will probably chime in every now and then.
Anyone run any races lately? I ran an 8k on New Years Eve day. It was a cold race, but in finished in 35:40. Not a bad race, but I was a little slower than my goal. Been working a lot of hours the past 6 months and haven't been able to train like I want. I also just signed up for my next marathon. Running the Detroit Free Press marathon in October. I've done the half a few times, but going to final tackle the full.
Anyone run any races lately? I ran an 8k on New Years Eve day. It was a cold race, but in finished in 35:40. Not a bad race, but I was a little slower than my goal. Been working a lot of hours the past 6 months and haven't been able to train like I want. I also just signed up for my next marathon. Running the Detroit Free Press marathon in October. I've done the half a few times, but going to final tackle the full.
The Imp
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Doing a half-marathon in Berlin on March 29th, as my first race of the season. It's nice to have an event early in the year, keeps me motivated in the dark and cold days of January.
Tried interval-training for the first time on Tuesday. Just 6 x 400m (quarter mile) with breaks in between, but I managed to keep the pace steady across the six tries at about 3 minutes 40 seconds/km. I know it's a bad idea to do what's really anerobic intervals at a time when I ought to be doing base work, but I felt like I had to try it out.
I've been using the treadmill about once a week through December, mainly to break in new shoes. I decided to try a build approach, so:
40 minutes total, with two minutes at 12 kph (5 min/km), two minutes at 12,1 kph, 2 at 12,2 kph, etc. Constantly building speed, constantly putting in negative splits. The "game" in it makes it bearable to do treadmill work, for me. The last two minutes are at 13,9 kph (around 4 min 20 seconds / km).
Tried interval-training for the first time on Tuesday. Just 6 x 400m (quarter mile) with breaks in between, but I managed to keep the pace steady across the six tries at about 3 minutes 40 seconds/km. I know it's a bad idea to do what's really anerobic intervals at a time when I ought to be doing base work, but I felt like I had to try it out.
I've been using the treadmill about once a week through December, mainly to break in new shoes. I decided to try a build approach, so:
40 minutes total, with two minutes at 12 kph (5 min/km), two minutes at 12,1 kph, 2 at 12,2 kph, etc. Constantly building speed, constantly putting in negative splits. The "game" in it makes it bearable to do treadmill work, for me. The last two minutes are at 13,9 kph (around 4 min 20 seconds / km).
The Imp
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Nice one.
I bought new shoes last Friday, and I'm now struggling with most of my left leg.
Mid thigh, on the back, it feels like there's a nascent hammy - but it hasn't evolved for a week.
After any exercise, there's a small muscle on the outside of my left knee that gets really sore. Makes it painful to bend my leg.
A minor deep pain in my upper left calf.
Going to rest up completely Sunday, and only swin Monday and Tuesday, to see if I can rest it away.
I'm thinking my old shoes were too worn, as I'm basically using the same model as before (retired my Nike Air Structure 14s for 18s). So now my muscles are getting used to a new run stance.
I bought new shoes last Friday, and I'm now struggling with most of my left leg.
Mid thigh, on the back, it feels like there's a nascent hammy - but it hasn't evolved for a week.
After any exercise, there's a small muscle on the outside of my left knee that gets really sore. Makes it painful to bend my leg.
A minor deep pain in my upper left calf.
Going to rest up completely Sunday, and only swin Monday and Tuesday, to see if I can rest it away.
I'm thinking my old shoes were too worn, as I'm basically using the same model as before (retired my Nike Air Structure 14s for 18s). So now my muscles are getting used to a new run stance.
RayP
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Today I wanted to see how much of an incline I could sustain a 10mph run for 60 seconds at, starting from 0.0. Made it all the way up to 6.0, and this was after an already good 15-20 minutes of intervals to begin with. I've been lazy lately and not been running outside, but just hitting the treadmill and doing stuff like that. Been really enjoying it lately. Plus it's been col and I've straight up been a wuss.
The Imp
5-14-6-1
My symptoms seem to indicate Runner's knee. So there's that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliotibial_band_syndrome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliotibial_band_syndrome
Randy Butternubs
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I went for a run yesterday -- the first time in a long time. I did just over 3 miles at a 9:30 pace. I'll take it since I was never a distance runner.
RayP
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I had IT band syndrome in 2013, after my marathon, and it took nearly 3 full months of not running at all, before it went away. I probably could have gotten rid of it sooner had I really tried, but I finished my race and it was winter time so I didn't really take the right steps to recover as quickly as possible.
This past fall I had runner's knee about a month or so prior to the marathon, which had me ******** bricks... but it went away with lots, and LOTS of stretching, icing, and foam rolling. As in like probably nearly 2 hours a day of those 3 combined.
The Imp
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