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Ozolinsh_27 said:
So finally got fitted, I seem to be a neutral runner. In the morning I get to try out my new shoes on a treadmill, which I never run on...but if I have any problems they said I could take them back as long as I didn't run on pavement with them.

I got new balance 880v3s

I just want to run without worrying if I'll get shin splints again. :(
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When you are at home and on the couch or whatever, trace big circles in both directions with your big toe and/or draw your way thru the alphabet with them. That will help strengthen your shins and either help rid the problem, or prevent it.
 
442.2 km this year so far. Not what I was hoping for at all. I originally wanted to hit 1200 km, but I slacked too much. Hoping this fall will be much better for running.

On another note, I'm hittin' Blackstrap tomorrow for the trail run. Hoping to do 10 km.
 
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so, I need some advice here. But first a little history.

I was playing hockey until I was 17, then had to quit because of shoulder injuries. That's more than 8 years ago now. Since hockey was the only sport I practiced regularly, I got a little chubby. In May, 2 drunk friends of mine were poking fun at me - admittedly deserved. I knew they were doing a relay race in September, so I, myself drunk, challenged them: I would be better than them in that race. So I started training, first quite annoyed at myself, but after 2 weeks or so, I started to feel better. I lost about 9 kg in the process (sorry, Americans, do the math), going from 102 to 93, at a height of 184cm.

Then, last weekend, finally the big event. My distance was for 12.5 km. Not only did I beat one of them who was running the same distance (7:34 minutes, *****), but I was also about a minute faster than the other guy who ran exactly 11km. That said, I still was a little pissed, because I missed running the distance under an hour by just a bit (1 minute 22 seconds). Now, that a week has passed, I'm kinda proud of myself.

The next goal is to run 16 km in about 75 minutes, in April. Am I aiming to high here? It isn't exactly fun to run outdoors in the winter and there are no decent indoor places around. What do you guys think is the best surrogate? I plan on getting season tickets for indoor swimming pools and the local ice rink. Then some soccer and squash from time to time.

Any advice appreciated :).
 
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My training this year has been the best it's ever been in terms of seeing improvements. Last year when I trained for the marathon I ran I had so much going on in life that I was just hoping not to regress. This year those outside distractions aren't an issue anymore, and every single long run Sunday my pace has improved. Ran 20 miles this morning at 8:42 per mile and felt great from start to finish, and drank a decent bit of booze last night. I don't know if I could have finished the full 26.2 at that pace, but absolutely under 9 minutes per without a doubt. I think I'm going to set my race day goal at 8:45 per.


Also love that I'm finishing strong. My last mile today I ran at 7:19. :yo:
 
Hi ! New to the boards. I've taken up treadmill running for close to a year now,but due to my scoliosis and chronic bronchitis which I'm getting over now,I get about a month's run in and I break down.I'm sure being 49 doesn't help my cause.Anyways,my record for a 30 min run is 3.54 miles and 568 calories.I can't run longer because of my back.Is that decent for my age? I'd like to hit the 600 calorie mark.Nice to meet everyone!
 
RayP said:
My training this year has been the best it's ever been in terms of seeing improvements. Last year when I trained for the marathon I ran I had so much going on in life that I was just hoping not to regress. This year those outside distractions aren't an issue anymore, and every single long run Sunday my pace has improved. Ran 20 miles this morning at 8:42 per mile and felt great from start to finish, and drank a decent bit of booze last night. I don't know if I could have finished the full 26.2 at that pace, but absolutely under 9 minutes per without a doubt. I think I'm going to set my race day goal at 8:45 per.


Also love that I'm finishing strong. My last mile today I ran at 7:19. :yo:
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That's pretty good Ray! to run a marathon under 4:00 is always an impressive accomplishment! please let us know how it went

on my side, I'm doing my first on Oct 12th... from couch to Marathon in less than 6 months, I'm very satisfied with that... I'm looking at 4:10 but I doubt that I'll get it due to two injuries that have bothered me while training (only 11 weeks training when I decided to go for it)

V4V1984 said:
Hi ! New to the boards. I've taken up treadmill running for close to a year now,but due to my scoliosis and chronic bronchitis which I'm getting over now,I get about a month's run in and I break down.I'm sure being 49 doesn't help my cause.Anyways,my record for a 30 min run is 3.54 miles and 568 calories.I can't run longer because of my back.Is that decent for my age? I'd like to hit the 600 calorie mark.Nice to meet everyone!
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Your age doesn't really matter here, what matters most would be that you have scoliosis (I'm very impressed of you running).. You may be running a little fast for someone who starts... I would try to run a little slower and increase your time, maybe a 9.5min/mile pace for 45mins (if you can)?

SoftEuro4thLiner said:
so, I need some advice here. But first a little history.

I was playing hockey until I was 17, then had to quit because of shoulder injuries. That's more than 8 years ago now. Since hockey was the only sport I practiced regularly, I got a little chubby. In May, 2 drunk friends of mine were poking fun at me - admittedly deserved. I knew they were doing a relay race in September, so I, myself drunk, challenged them: I would be better than them in that race. So I started training, first quite annoyed at myself, but after 2 weeks or so, I started to feel better. I lost about 9 kg in the process (sorry, Americans, do the math), going from 102 to 93, at a height of 184cm.

Then, last weekend, finally the big event. My distance was for 12.5 km. Not only did I beat one of them who was running the same distance (7:34 minutes, *****), but I was also about a minute faster than the other guy who ran exactly 11km. That said, I still was a little pissed, because I missed running the distance under an hour by just a bit (1 minute 22 seconds). Now, that a week has passed, I'm kinda proud of myself.

The next goal is to run 16 km in about 75 minutes, in April. Am I aiming to high here? It isn't exactly fun to run outdoors in the winter and there are no decent indoor places around. What do you guys think is the best surrogate? I plan on getting season tickets for indoor swimming pools and the local ice rink. Then some soccer and squash from time to time.

Any advice appreciated :).
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I'm sorry to say, but the more you run, the faster you'll get... So you'll definitely will have to run during the winter to get to a 4:41pace... I would say a 4x week (minimum) schedule will have to be required to get down to that tempo. I would try, a 1-long run, 1-fartlek, 1-hills, 1-recovery a day schedule. I am planning to run a marathon in May under 4:00 and that's the schedule I'm gonna try this winter (I live in Canada and there a ******** of snow here)+ HIIT & Home XFit workout (maybe even 5 days a week of running). I currently have a pace of 5:20 for a 16km... an impov of +/-30secs since my first 17km in June and I did +/-350km in the past 2 months
 
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Well, I finally did it!

On Saturday, the weather was amazing, and I had lots of energy and time to kill...

So I decided I would finally try to tackle 10 km.

And I did it! It was tough but I did it!

I have been running 8 km regularly, but on the treadmill. I have never run more than 40 minutes in one shot, and that has always only been on the treadmill.

But I went outside, got on the running path, and ran nonstop for 1 hour 2 minutes. My time sucked, but there were lots of hills and stuff. I am so happy I finally hit this milestone...I felt like I could keep going forever by the end, but the moment I stopped, I almost passed out!
 
That's awesome waffle! :yo:


I'm just going to throw this out there for the hell of it, but I know someone trying to unload a Marine Corps Marathon bib which is in a month, 10/26 to be exact I think. If anyone knows anyone interested, let me know or send them my info.

alpine4life said:
That's pretty good Ray! to run a marathon under 4:00 is always an impressive accomplishment! please let us know how it went

on my side, I'm doing my first on Oct 12th... from couch to Marathon in less than 6 months, I'm very satisfied with that... I'm looking at 4:10 but I doubt that I'll get it due to two injuries that have bothered me while training (only 11 weeks training when I decided to go for it)
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Anything under 4:00 is the goal. I'd happily take 3:59:59. Last year I had terrible training, and terrible nutrition the week before (I was hosting some friends in town and got drunk every night, except for the night before). I have one more challenging run, a 20 miler this upcoming Sunday. After that I begin my taper and it's all easy until race day. So far all my 20 mile runs have been under 9 minutes per, and I've felt great during the last mile and afterwards.


That's awesome! Which marathon on you doing? How has your training gone? Last year was my first one and the training was pretty difficult. Now that I have that base, the training this year has been soooo much easier. That, and I've been cross training more this year. Last year was almost exclusively running 4-5 days a week and weight training. I've since bought a nice road bike that I use on Saturday before my Sunday long run, and try to swim once a week, and weight train once a week.
 
Was just looking at my monthly totals. 100 on the dot in July, 142 in August, 133 in September.

That leaves with 99 miles to run from October 1st - October 25th, with the marathon being on the 26th. After getting through the summer down here with our brutal heat and humidity, it honestly just all seems so easy right now. It's a really good feeling, especially since I was really worried if I'd make it through the summer heat and be able to schedule enough runs early in the morning to beat the heat. As of now, I've only missed 2 runs. One was because I was legit sick, and another was because I was traveling and if I made it up later in the week I'd have risked screwing up one of my long runs that I needed to focus on more anyway.
 
Well, the marathon I've spent all summer training for is 1 week from today. Been battling runner's knee for the last 3 weeks, and haven't really been able to run at all. I got out a few days last week and logged 16 miles running, and hike a few more yesterday, but feeling it pretty good today. Not really all that confident in it being able to hold up for 26.2 come next Sunday, but I've spent the last 4 months training harder than ever for it, and scheduling my life around being able to do so, so obviously going to give it a go. I should be good to run the first 15-16 miles at a fine pace. Anything after that is up in there air and have no idea what to expect from the knee.
 
Good luck Ray, let us know how it went?

Fall's here with a vengeance. I joined my club for a hill/beach run on Thursday, which completely wrecked my legs. A different sort of workout to what I'm used to.

On Saturday, I was at my parents', and wanted to do 12 km or so. My dad suggested this one route that's nicely scenic and such, and it looked like maybe 13, so I gave it a whirl. Yeah, it was 17,5, with about 2 km of wet, grassy/muddy footpaths. But I made it back in good order, at 5:01/k average (1 hour 28 min).

Feeling pretty confident about long-distance running now, compared to where I was a few months ago.
 
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Ran my first race in over a year yesterday, the WFPS half-marathon. I didn't think I would go under 1:50 because I'm carrying a little extra weight, but I surprised myself and finished in 1:47:37, one of my better times. Not too shabby at 43. ;)

Now comes the long cold winter...hope I can keep up my training because I have a full marathon in May! :)
 
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Good luck Ray, let us know how it went?

Fall's here with a vengeance. I joined my club for a hill/beach run on Thursday, which completely wrecked my legs. A different sort of workout to what I'm used to.

On Saturday, I was at my parents', and wanted to do 12 km or so. My dad suggested this one route that's nicely scenic and such, and it looked like maybe 13, so I gave it a whirl. Yeah, it was 17,5, with about 2 km of wet, grassy/muddy footpaths. But I made it back in good order, at 5:01/k average (1 hour 28 min).

Feeling pretty confident about long-distance running now, compared to where I was a few months ago.
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Thanks man, it's next Sunday. Ran and hiked last week and that didn't go so great, about 20 miles over 4 days. Resting it entirely this week, aside from maybe a very, very light jog on Saturday. That will essentially give me 3 of the last 4 weeks nothing but rest, icing it, and stretching it.


Sounds awesome. :yo:
 
Nah, not with the plan I used. If my knee were up to shape this week would have been pretty light.

Mon - cross training
Tue - 3m
Wed - 4m
Thu - rest
Fri - rest
Sat - 2m


During this plan I was typically logging 140-160 miles a month, though, so that's why the last week was so light. With where the knee is, I'm just giving it complete rest at this point. No running, no biking, not even swimming. Just ice, stretching, and lots of foam rolling.

However, when I was in the middle of my training plan... the day before my long runs I usually would go pretty aggressive, according to the plan. If I had a 20 mile run on Sunday, it would have me running 10 mile on Saturday the day before. I was really skeptical about that prior to doing it, but it wasn't that bad, actually.
 
The knee I was worried about was actually perfectly fine, but the other one really felt it on 2 separate 4-5 mile stretches. Didn't quite hit my time, and just couldn't get to the finish line till 20 minutes after the race started. Which meant that I then spent the first 8-10 miles bobbing and weaving trying to break through the slower pack... And that really sapped a ton of energy out of me. That, and had to wait 4-5 minutes to use a porta potty at one point too, which sucked.

After I realized I wasn't going to hit my time I just shifted my focus to running the entire race without any breaks, other than to piss once and to refill my water bottle... And I reached that goal. Official time ended up being 4:18, and I finished rather healthy and injury free for the most part, so not too bad. Just bummed the race had to start off the way it did. Was so frustrating running down hills at such slow paces.

Oh, and I drank way, way too much the night before, but that's not really an excuse since that's the norm for me. :laugh:

While I loved training for it, and will do another one some other time... It's nice to have no schedule to keep up with, and a potential social life again... At least for the next 2-3 months until I do it all over again. Super pumped to spend some more time on the bike and work on that for the next 2-3 months exclusively.
 
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4:18 is highly respectable for a first marathon. It's a tough thing to do.

A bit of post-event blues are expected, after having trained and focused so much on one particular event. Try arranging a run with some friends.

A go get 'em on the bike.
 
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4:18 is highly respectable for a first marathon. It's a tough thing to do.

A bit of post-event blues are expected, after having trained and focused so much on one particular event. Try arranging a run with some friends.

A go get 'em on the bike.
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This was actually my second, did the Atlanta one last October. I'm not losing sleep over it, but am a but bummed over not quite reaching my goals. Although I can only blame myself for it, and I still had a pretty decent time. Also got to have one hell of a time Friday and Saturday night in a city I've never been to before, and that counts for something too.
 
Congrats Ray. Finishing a marathon in anytime close to 4 hours seems impressive.

I was able to go 10k in about an hour on Saturday which is probably my best showing so far, but i'm still over 200lbs on a 5'8-5'9 frame so I was happy.

I did 9 miles the weekend before in 1:45 with a friend but he doesn't ever run just hikes with me usually so the pace was definitely slower.

As long as you're continually making improvements it's hard to complain. That's my strategy anyways.
 
Thanks Chairman, and it was definitely an improvement from last year for me, by about 30 minutes. Not to mention I just felt better during it, especially towards the end, when this one was over and done with it.
 
4:18 is great. I had 4:27 on my first (and only thus far) one with a training plan not even close to what you did...come to think of it I'm surprised I survived.
 
I'm very pleased with the progress I've made since deciding to get faster rather than run further. I ran a 10k race in 47:26, hoping for 50:00.

Ideally, I'll break 40:00 within the next two races.
 
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