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The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

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Rowley Birkin said:
I never knew it was that close. As others have posted above - there is a big difference between enquiring (which is basically due diligence on Adams' part) compared to going so far to get a trade agreed only for the player to veto it. Even if it did get that far - I'm pretty sure Adams would have lost any interest himself once he knew the player wasn't interested.

I'm not saying you are wrong or that I don't believe you. Did Marek say what the proposed deal was? I listen to his podcast sporadically but no more regular than that. Pesce is a player I've always liked.
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Jeff talks about the Sabres a lot more on TJMS than he does on 32T. He didn’t get into specifics and I couldn’t tell you the exact episode, it releases every day bc it’s a radio show. Wish I could.

but he essentially said that Pesce and Buffalo was hot all summer and seemed like a sure thing until it wasn’t.

Perratrooper said:
I wouldn’t trade Lehkonen for 11th if I’m being honest. He’s an elite two-way top 6 forward that is clutch in the playoffs. He’s the type of player an overpay would be required.
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I’m interested in Colton and moving the 11th pick but I think the gap in value may be hard to pinpoint and work around. That and the NTC which we are no doubt on
 
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Perratrooper said:
I have had a few discussions with some Sabres fans on a trade between the Avs and Sabres involving Ross Colton and was wondering what sort of trade could be worked out.

Is there a world where the Avs add to Colorado could add to him to get 11th overall? If so, what sort of add would the Sabres be looking for?
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More like the 43rd pick + Krebs or something.

11th overall would only be available for a big name player
 
Perratrooper said:
I wouldn’t trade Lehkonen for 11th if I’m being honest. He’s an elite two-way top 6 forward that is clutch in the playoffs. He’s the type of player an overpay would be required.
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I don’t blame you. But realistically there’s not much that Colorado could add to Colton that would make a trade feasible for 11th overall.

Maybe Walker, but I believe he is a UFA this summer.
 
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MOGlLNY said:
Krebs + for Colton is definitely interesting. I don’t know how well Krebs would fit in with Colorado’s style though.
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Downhill toward the net, Krebs probably fits in fine.

With Colorado, having some tightness to the cap, though, it might work to use futures (draft picks) to make a deal happen so that they have those to use as currency at the next deadline.
 
MarkusKetterer said:
I don’t blame you. But realistically there’s not much that Colorado could add to Colton that would make a trade feasible for 11th overall.

Maybe Walker, but I believe he is a UFA this summer.
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Yes he is. I wasn’t sure if our late first plus Colton could get it done.

DJN21 said:
I'll be that guy....Calum Ritchie....
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Hahah I like the attempt but I think the Avs would stand Pat
 
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Zman5778 said:
I don't see anything realistic that Colorado could add to Colton to get #11 out of us.

I'd think it'd also be a major uphill battle to get Colton to waive his NTC to come to Buffalo.
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Colton’s NTC kicks in July 1st.

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Perratrooper said:
Yes he is. I wasn’t sure if our late first plus Colton could get it done.
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I wish we had a trade chart for pick values like the NFL. I’d think about Colton + Colorados 1sr for 11 though. I think some of our NHL ready ELC youngsters probably make more sense though given the cap crunch next year.
 
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Rowley Birkin said:
The proposed trade for Murray was all about moving up in the draft & nothing about acquiring the player concerned.

Pesce... I haven't ever seen or heard anything that says they had a concrete deal in place which broke down because of a NTC. Just rumours linking us to trading for him because it made sense on paper.
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It was about both.
 
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The problem with Pesce and Murray rejecting the trades isn’t that it happened…it’s how Adams plan Bs were just abysmal. So Murray says no and you don’t get to flip picks…sucks but oh well. Do better than letting every other team pick through the goalie market and signing Eric Comrie.

Pesce was a strong target. Good for you. Do better than Clifton and Johnson heading into the season when it falls apart.

He’s either been too fixated on one idea that he cant find a plan b…or his plan Bs have been a nightmare.

Can’t happen this summer.
 
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Ace said:
The problem with Pesce and Murray rejecting the trades isn’t that it happened…it’s how Adams plan Bs were just abysmal. So Murray says no and you don’t get to flip picks…sucks but oh well. Do better than letting every other team pick through the goalie market and signing Eric Comrie.

Pesce was a strong target. Good for you. Do better than Clifton and Johnson heading into the season when it falls apart.

He’s either been too fixated on one idea that he cant find a plan b…or his plan Bs have been a nightmare.

Can’t happen this summer.
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Comrie was a highly thought of option coming off a solid year if small sample size if I recall correctly.

Clifton was definitely sought after and a guy many around here were pitching for. @ Chainshot I feel like was one?

I don't think you're remembering this correctly or the reception it was given by many around here but I could be wrong....
 
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DJN21 said:
Comrie was a highly thought of option coming off a solid year if small sample size if I recall correctly.

Clifton was definitely sought after and a guy many around here were pitching for. @ Chainshot I feel like was one?

I don't think you're remembering this correctly or the reception it was given by many around here but I could be wrong....
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Such a deep list of quality goaltenders in the 2022 UFA that are all living up well to the contracts they signed, and they def would have signed with us had they been offered contracts.

  • Darcy Kuemper, Avalanche.
  • Ville Husso, Blues.
  • Jack Campbell, Maple Leafs.
  • Casey DeSmith, Penguins.
  • Eric Comrie, Jets.
  • Scott Wedgewood, Stars.
  • Thomas Greiss, Red Wings.
  • Martin Jones, Flyers.
 
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Gras said:
Such a deep list of quality goaltenders in the 2022 UFA that are all living up well to the contracts they signed, and they def would have signed with us had they been offered contracts.

  • Darcy Kuemper, Avalanche.
  • Ville Husso, Blues.
  • Jack Campbell, Maple Leafs.
  • Casey DeSmith, Penguins.
  • Eric Comrie, Jets.
  • Scott Wedgewood, Stars.
  • Thomas Greiss, Red Wings.
  • Martin Jones, Flyers.
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man....we missed the SS Vezina....
 
Gras said:
Such a deep list of quality goaltenders in the 2022 UFA that are all living up well to the contracts they signed, and they def would have signed with us had they been offered contracts.

  • Darcy Kuemper, Avalanche.
  • Ville Husso, Blues.
  • Jack Campbell, Maple Leafs.
  • Casey DeSmith, Penguins.
  • Eric Comrie, Jets.
  • Scott Wedgewood, Stars.
  • Thomas Greiss, Red Wings.
  • Martin Jones, Flyers.
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I wanted Husso or Cambell !

:facepalm:
 
Gras said:
Such a deep list of quality goaltenders in the 2022 UFA that are all living up well to the contracts they signed, and they def would have signed with us had they been offered contracts.

  • Darcy Kuemper, Avalanche.
  • Ville Husso, Blues.
  • Jack Campbell, Maple Leafs.
  • Casey DeSmith, Penguins.
  • Eric Comrie, Jets.
  • Scott Wedgewood, Stars.
  • Thomas Greiss, Red Wings.
  • Martin Jones, Flyers.
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And not for nothing, but when it comes to Wedgewood:

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DJN21 said:
Comrie was a highly thought of option coming off a solid year if small sample size if I recall correctly.

Clifton was definitely sought after and a guy many around here were pitching for. @ Chainshot I feel like was one?

I don't think you're remembering this correctly or the reception it was given by many around here but I could be wrong....
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Oh see…I come from the perspective of where I said these moves weren’t it and Adams hadn’t done enough during the last two offseasons as they were happening. It’s why everyone hates me and blocks me and attacks me for negativity.

So on days like today when people look back at how things were they can see I was the one who said them…and I get to continue from my position of having been correct in my opinion from the start.

These moves weren’t enough. As I said then. And I say now. And here we exist.
 
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