The Responsible Parties

[PB37]

So a .500 record is 4th best or by total wins?

Who cares. Bruins have made it past the 2nd round once under Sweeney. Sweeney just had to fire Bruce Cassidy because his job is in question so he had to blame it on Cassidy.

Twice under Sweeney.

Apparently YOU care since you think they're marginally better than Toronto, lol.

 

[DKH]

Bruins are 46 - 46 in the playoffs the past 10 years, tied for 4th best in the league.

Toronto is 21 - 29 in the playoffs the past 10 years, 4th worst in the league.

It's not close.

But Toronto would have won a series if Taveras didn’t get hurt and maybe that is what they need to win it all

 

[DKH]

Strange post..... again!


Florida is first this year. They underachieved last season entering the playoff. Florida was not an 8 th seed team!

A handful of Florids players would be playing for different teams had Brad scored on that breakaway end of game 5

The power of Brad Marchand

I’m a Florida fan I wish Marchand scored there then lose in Finals

 

[UncleRico]

He’s likely more conservative than some, yes, but he’s made plenty of deals some of which were risky - like the Nash deal

he certainly is willing to deal first round picks so credit is given there, but most GMs are willing to do that. However during his tenure I believe the only time he’s traded a top 6 forward or top 4 D were due to cap purposes with Taylor hall and the first season he was here with that initial shake up.

 

[UncleRico]

Twice under Sweeney.

Apparently YOU care since you think they're marginally better than Toronto, lol.

The year to the cup against the blues they made it past the second round. What other year?


Yes Toronto hasn’t made it past the 2nd round under Shanahan and the bruins have made it past the second round once. Congrats to the bruins for having more playoff games but they have a .500 record in the playoffs during that stretch woohoooo!!!!!

Both approaching decade long tenures without winning a cup. They are among a handful of GMs to have that tenure without the hardware And Sweeney is approaching the 2nd longest bruins tenured GM without a cup.

My guess would be Sweeney has until 2025-2026 season to make it past the 2nd round or he’s fired.

 

[bearcountry17]

Floridas GM just had the balls to actually shake up the team when they had a bunch of early playoff exits in a row. They moved one of their star players for tkachuk and made a couple minor moves to accommodate the new play style.

It just took them a couple months to gel last year and they were off to the races.

For better or for worse Sweeney would never have the balls to pull off a move like that.

Off to the races to lose in the Stanley cup finals?

 

[Over the volcano]

The year to the cup against the blues they made it past the second round. What other year?


Yes Toronto hasn’t made it past the 2nd round under Shanahan and the bruins have made it past the second round once. Congrats to the bruins for having more playoff games but they have a .500 record in the playoffs during that stretch woohoooo!!!!!

Both approaching decade long tenures without winning a cup. They are among a handful of GMs to have that tenure without the hardware And Sweeney is approaching the 2nd longest bruins tenured GM without a cup.

My guess would be Sweeney has until 2025-2026 season to make it past the 2nd round or he’s fired.

You think he'll be a finalist for GM of the year this season?

 

[PB37]

The year to the cup against the blues they made it past the second round. What other year?


Yes Toronto hasn’t made it past the 2nd round under Shanahan and the bruins have made it past the second round once. Congrats to the bruins for having more playoff games but they have a .500 record in the playoffs during that stretch woohoooo!!!!!

Both approaching decade long tenures without winning a cup. They are among a handful of GMs to have that tenure without the hardware And Sweeney is approaching the 2nd longest bruins tenured GM without a cup.

My guess would be Sweeney has until 2025-2026 season to make it past the 2nd round or he’s fired.

I read that as to, not past.

But the point remains, the Bruins have been more successful in the playoffs than Toronto to the point where it's not even really a comparison. Toronto is more in line with the Jets for wins while Boston is more in line with the Rangers and Stars.

 

[DKH]

Sweeney has built arguably the best D group in hockey

Lindholm (quietly had a great season in new role) is oldest

Blaming him for this horrible situation we find in is ridiculous

 

[UncleRico]

You think he'll be a finalist for GM of the year this season?

Probably but who cares. Cassidy was the winningest regular season coach during his tenure also winning coach of the year and being in the running for it constantly.

He still got fired.

 

[NDiesel]

Off to the races to lose in the Stanley cup finals?

The irony of applauding Florida's GM for losing in the cup finals and using one cup finals appearance as a negative for our GM.

 

[Over the volcano]

The irony of applauding Florida's GM for losing in the cup finals and using one cup finals appearance as a negative for our GM.

Or lauding Cassidy for his winning was as a Bruins coach in contrast to Sweeney's performance as GM.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

So from what I gather here there are many posters "ok" with the Bruins "lack" of play-off success, meaning winning a cup, or getting past round two, or winning two rounds the past four years? Do people have any expectations for them going into the play-offs?

Or lauding Cassidy for his winning was as a Bruins coach in contrast to Sweeney's performance as GM.

What did Cassidy win as a Bruins coach?

 

[UncleRico]

The irony of applauding Florida's GM for losing in the cup finals and using one cup finals appearance as a negative for our GM.

Not ironic at all it’s two completely different scenarios.

The major difference being Florida fired their old GM and the new florida GM has only been around for 3 offseason (hired in sept 2020 at the end of that offseason).

He came in and had the balls to shake up the team in a big way and they made it further than they had.

Now if it’s a scenario where that’s them maxing out and they don’t return to that, then sure the narrative switches.

One GM is new and has a team trending in a better direction while the other is one of the more tenured GMs who hasn’t made it out of the 2nd round in 4-5 years

 

[UncleRico]

Or lauding Cassidy for his winning was as a Bruins coach in contrast to Sweeney's performance as GM.

Not what im saying at all, actually quite opposite. I’m saying who the hell cares about regular season accolades it doesn’t mean anything.

I was making a comparison that if Cassidy can get fired with his regular season success so can Sweeney.

 

[Over the volcano]

Probably but who cares. ...

When the world looks upside down there's a good chance you're just standing on your head.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

So from what I gather here there are many posters "ok" with the Bruins "lack" of play-off success, meaning winning a cup, or getting past round two, or winning two rounds the past four years? Do people have any expectations for them going into the play-offs?


What did Cassidy win as a Bruins coach?

Not at all. But given what has happened, how do you blame the GM for that? If you’re firing Sweeney over this (and 2019) you’re doing a sacrificial lamb thing because the team hasn’t won a cup, not doing it because he hasn’t done a good job. Cassidy’s firing was different.

Let’s say they lose in the first round this year. Is that at all Sweeney’s fault? He hit at least marginally on Heinen, JVR, Geekie, Boqvist, Shattenkirk, and Wotherspoon. His miss would be what, Mitchell? I guess you could blame him for Lucic but that seems out there.

Sweeney is in the middle of his second retool on the fly. They’re second in the league while doing so. And yet he’s allegedly on the hot seat for playoff performance? Not reality.

 

[UncleRico]

When the world looks upside down there's a good chance you're just standing on your head.

Ya I know you’re completely content with the regular season and the first round loss and consistently ball wash everyone in the organization.

However some people have higher aspirations for this team. Most regular season wins over the last decade and we are the only team in the top 5 without a cup.

Sweeney doesn’t fire Cassidy if he isn’t feeling the heat. It’s insane to say his seat isn’t at least at least warm.

Not at all. But given what has happened, how do you blame the GM for that? If you’re firing Sweeney over this (and 2019) you’re doing a sacrificial lamb thing because the team hasn’t won a cup, not doing it because he hasn’t done a good job. Cassidy’s firing was different.

Let’s say they lose in the first round this year. Is that at all Sweeney’s fault? He hit at least marginally on Heinen, JVR, Geekie, Boqvist, Shattenkirk, and Wotherspoon. His miss would be what, Mitchell? I guess you could blame him for Lucic but that seems out there.

Sweeney is in the middle of his second retool on the fly. They’re second in the league while doing so. And yet he’s allegedly on the hot seat for playoff performance? Not reality.

Because more successful GMs for this organization have been fired for less.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Ya I know you’re completely content with the regular season and the first round loss and consistently ball wash everyone in the organization.

However some people have higher aspirations for this team. Most regular season wins over the last decade and we are the only team in the top 5 without a cup.

Sweeney doesn’t fire Cassidy if he isn’t feeling the heat. It’s insane to say his sit isn’t at least at least warm.



Because more successful GMs for this organization have been fired for less.

Nope. Chiarelli post cup put the team in a way worse position than Sweeney ever has. It’s not “fired for less”.

 

[UncleRico]

Nope. Chiarelli post cup put the team in a way worse position than Sweeney ever has. It’s not “fired for less”.

See this is the divide right here.

The regular season matters much more to you guys than the post season. And the post season matters more to me than the regular season.

You discredit chiarelli because when he got fired they missed the playoffs. The team wasn’t in the playoffs that year and that matters more to you than the cup he won. That’s why you like Sweeney because he has them in the postseason every year despite not winning anything.

I care more about the cup than simply making the playoffs.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

See this is the divide right here.

The regular season matters much more to you guys than the post season. And the post season matters more to me than the regular season.

You discredit chiarelli because when he got fired they missed the playoffs. The team wasn’t in the playoffs that year and that matters more to you than the cup he won. That’s why you like Sweeney because he has them in the postseason every year despite not winning anything.

I care more about the cup than simply making the playoffs.

No. What I care about is has the GM put a roster together that has high potential for playoff success. And he has repeatedly. I don’t put it on the GM that the coach choked last year, or the players choked, or got hurt, or Ullmark misplayed the puck behind the net. Sweeney did an excellent job last year, and maybe even more so this year.

Your view is fire everyone based on playoff success or failure. It’s asinine and it’s not how it works.

 

[UncleRico]

No. What I care about is has the GM put a roster together that has high potential for playoff success. And he has repeatedly. I don’t put it on the GM that the coach choked last year, or the players choked, or got hurt, or Ullmark misplayed the puck behind the net. Sweeney did an excellent job last year, and maybe even more so this year.

Your view is fire everyone based on playoff success or failure. It’s asinine and it’s not how it works.

So explain then how Sweeney has been better than chiarelli like you said.

When I said chiarelli was the better GM you said no he wasn’t due to the way he left the team.

Explain how him leaving the team the way he did cancels out him being a better GM in your mind. Because clearly missing the playoffs one year has more impact than winning the cup in this scenario.

 

[SPV]

If we can be smart down the stretch, rest a guy here and there and get lucky with health, I think this team is decent enough in a bridge year to have a chance.

They went all in hard last season, enough that they’re paying nearly 5 million dollars this year for it. And they’re still a dangerous team.

Someone on the broadcast or radio said recently that last year’s team never really got tested or pushed until the playoffs, but this team has been pushed all year and still win way more than they lose.

 

[Over the volcano]

Ya I know you’re completely content with the regular season and the first round loss and consistently ball wash everyone in the organization.

However some people have higher aspirations for this team. Most regular season wins over the last decade and we are the only team in the top 5 without a cup.

Sweeney doesn’t fire Cassidy if he isn’t feeling the heat. It’s insane to say his seat isn’t at least at least warm.



Because more successful GMs for this organization have been fired for less.

Season after firing Cassidy he was a finalist for GM of the year and finished with a historic season for the league. This year even you figure he's going to be a finalist again.

Your definition of him being in the hot seat is that he could get fired in 2 1/2 years if the team doesn't improve. To me, that's more of a cool seat.

If this teams had issues the biggest ones are a long way from the GM's office.

 

[Bradely]

So from what I gather here there are many posters "ok" with the Bruins "lack" of play-off success, meaning winning a cup, or getting past round two, or winning two rounds the past four years? Do people have any expectations for them going into the play-offs?


What did Cassidy win as a Bruins coach?

Irony! Praising the Panthers lost in 2023 SC final and saying Sweeney's built bad team while losing in 2019 SC final! At some point, need a bit of intellectual rigour