The Rangers won't win the Cup while Bettman is the commissioner

[truebluegoalie]

Look, Bettman hates us and most of HFboards hates us, but the refs just plain suck. It's incompetence, not a conspiracy.

Sidenote: The universal Rangers hate amazes me. People find a way to blame us for everything. They blame the Rangers for spending too much money and thus causing the lockouts as if Florida/Phoenix/Carolina/etc would otherwise turn massive profits. They blame us for being boring even though we were really fun to watch this year under Vigneault. They blame us for Lundqvist being our best player as if having the best goalie in the world is somehow cheating. They blame us for getting lots of media attention as if it's novel for a team with a massive following to receive a large amount of coverage.

I agree with pretty much all this. The refs have sucked for a while and it seems to worsen in the playoffs. The history of hate between bettman and the rangers is well documented but I don't think it trickles down to the game. I just think the refs suck and there is no accountability for them, that is a problem.

 

[ADifferentTim]

I was thinKing the same thing.ever since bettman came into the league he made his mark and you could see it in the cup run in 94 also. He practically admitted he had to help the small market teams and those that make less to go far and make more.

You're well-aware that's called the Canadian Assistance Plan, correct? Small-market (read: Canadian markets NOT named Montreal AND Toronto) get priority, especially in the aftermath of the Nordiques and Jets 1.0 move to Colorado and PHX, respectively. He HAD to, just to keep the remaining Canadian teams NOT named Montreal and Toronto in Canada.

Look, Bettman hates us and most of HFboards hates us, but the refs just plain suck. It's incompetence, not a conspiracy.

Sidenote: The universal Rangers hate amazes me. People find a way to blame us for everything. They blame the Rangers for spending too much money and thus causing the lockouts as if Florida/Phoenix/Carolina/etc would otherwise turn massive profits. They blame us for being boring even though we were really fun to watch this year under Vigneault. They blame us for Lundqvist being our best player as if having the best goalie in the world is somehow cheating. They blame us for getting lots of media attention as if it's novel for a team with a massive following to receive a large amount of coverage.

Never mind the fact that the universal hatred towards the New York Yankees get spread out to even other NY sports franchises. I know for a fact the Knicks' incompetence is the very reason why the NBA is FORCED to keep the NBA Draft in NY until the Knicks win the NBA title, only to keep NYers interested in the NBA.

Under that logic about Lundqvist, that's like saying "Trevor Hoffman is better than Mariano Rivera" or "Ewing is better than Michael Jordan."

It's not just Da Commish that purportedly hates the Rangers; even the oldschoolers with links to pre-Expansion Six NHL teams will never live down the 1940 Rangers, desecrating The Cup.

If you want to talk about incompetence, then feel more than free to ask Knicks fans about James Dolan.

 

[Zil]

Never mind the fact that the universal hatred towards the New York Yankees get spread out to even other NY sports franchises. I know for a fact the Knicks' incompetence is the very reason why the NBA is FORCED to keep the NBA Draft in NY until the Knicks win the NBA title, only to keep NYers interested in the NBA.

The Rangers are hated because of the Yankees and conspiracies about the Knicks? What?

Under that logic about Lundqvist, that's like saying "Trevor Hoffman is better than Mariano Rivera" or "Ewing is better than Michael Jordan."

It's not just Da Commish that purportedly hates the Rangers; even the oldschoolers with links to pre-Expansion Six NHL teams will never live down the 1940 Rangers, desecrating The Cup.

What is this I don't even...

If you want to talk about incompetence, then feel more than free to ask Knicks fans about James Dolan.

Knicks fans get nothing but attention. The Knicks and their foibles are gasoline to the New York sports media's Hummer. I don't care about either, nor do I see how they're remotely relevant to anything I said.

 

[Xref]

How many 3rd period goals did the Rangers score in the last 8 playoff games? Look it up.

Yeah, let's blame it on Gary.

 

[NYR89]

It's a fast sport. Fast sports are tough to officiate.

 

[Zaggs]

I disagree.

It's not a conspiracy. Like I said, it's absolutely unacceptable refereeing because refs league-wide are inept. It's not against the Rangers solely.

It just turns out two huge calls in this series ****ed us directly.

Should be 3-2 and we should be playing Monday, and that really hurts. But it's not Bettman telling the refs to **** the Rangers over.

But here is the thing. Its obviously acceptable to the league. If it was unacceptable people like Scott Driscoll are not reffing the finals. Yet there he was making another BS call against the Rangers.

 

[prabak11]

lol you can't get any more illogical than this.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

I mean it hurts so bad that we lost, and dealing with those missed calls. But honestly, this thread just sounds like sour grapes. Just delete this thread. We didn't find ways to win. I agree it would be 3-2 most likely if those 2 calls were made correctly, but that doesn't change the fact that we had 100,000 chances to win the game and couldn't score, while they found ways to win. I doubt anyone on the Kings or their fans cares that Muzzin did what he did, because they skated around the ice with the Cup.

 

[Zaggs]

Here is the thing. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy to be true. Because if there is a general bias against the Rangers which leads to bad calls against them, Bettman seems not to care about bad officiating even in the Finals. There for the OP could still be correct without an active conspiracy.

 

[Whiplash27]

Interference on goals needs to be reviewable, that's all I know. Could have completely changed the rest of the series if the Rangers won game 2. That said, any other calls are up to the judgement of the referee. There's really nothing you can do to change that.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

The problem wasn't just that those calls led directly to goals against. It was the massive momentum swings that followed. Whether it was the Rangers deflating, the Kings surging, or a combination of both, both Games 2 and 5 were completely different after those 2 botched calls. Blame the Rangers for allowing themselves to be steamrolled in the aftermath of those calls, but it should never have come to that.

This Cup Finals was a complete fraud. Call me a sore loser, because I honestly don't care. This series should be 3-2 going back to NY if not for gross incompetence on the part of the officiating crews. Why shouldn't I be upset?

 

[Clown Fiesta]

Can we not?

We had a great season and lost a close series to a wonderful hockey team.

Can't we just leave it at that?

We also eliminated Youppi!

Zucc had done what he got called for multiple times this series and in the playoffs, the refs notice that kind of stuff. Although they certainly got it wrong in this situation, it is what it is.

 

[Guyute]

the guy who has it out for the rangers is campbell, not bettman

 

[Crease]

Powerplays and breakaways in OT and 2OT, but couldn't get it done. Can't blame it on the refs or some conspiracy with no logical premise.

LA's conditioning was in a different stratosphere. That, and the Rangers had 14 MM in cap space locked up in two players that are incapable of outputting offense in the month of June.

Hell of a run. Loved every second of it. Let's try again next year.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

It was the curses! Ok maybe not...

No, it's a conspiracy to keep the New York Rangers down! Yes that's it.

The fact that Lombardi methodically planned a team from scratch while making great trades in an incredibly difficult conference had nothing to do with the King's second championship in three years.

Why can't we just be accepted as equals in this league for once. Bettman is keeping us down.

 

[Bluenote13]

Ya see, this is why I question your reporting Beacon, sometimes I think you just see things the way you want to, bias if you will.

Bettman sucks but he's the last reason we lost this series. The players, I nominate them first.

 

[OverTheCap]

There are some Rangers fans out there who have a bad habit of playing the victim and think that everyone is out to get us. "The league doesn't want to us to win" "NBC is biased" etc. For all the complaints about other teams fanbases, our fans are guilty of some silly behavior as well.

So far as being hated, maybe it's the Yankee fan in me and I'm just accustomed to rooting for a team that is universally hated, but that stuff doesn't bother me at all.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

I guess OP means other than the time they already won the cup while Bettman was commissioner?

Its not conspiracy, its just atrocious reffing.

 

[Fugazy]

Incredibly incompetent officiating occurred. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Thirty One]

To be fair, Tortorella would probably think the fix was in as well.

 

[Son of Steinbrenner]

The most embarrassing thread in the history of this board. I just hope fans of other teams don't lump every Ranger fan together and think we all believe this nonsense. I hope the mods close this thread but please don't delete it. Let the OP have this post in his posting history so when somebody gets into a debate with him in the future they can look at this garbage and say "oh, it's THAT guy".

What a ****ing embarrassment....

 

[Ranger Angst]

So why watch if you think there's a conspiracy ?

 

[Stanley Foobrick]

The worst call of the series, game 2 goalie interference did go against New York but even if that goal is called back there is no way of knowing who would have won. Questionable calls happen all the time, that's why it's 7 games. LA was clearly a half step ahead of New York for more than 50% of the games, especially in the 3rd periods when LA was able to step up and New York wasn't.

No shame in losing to a better team, that's all that happened here.

 

[ImIdaho]

The worst call of the series, game 2 goalie interference did go against New York but even if that goal is called back there is no way of knowing who would have won. Questionable calls happen all the time, that's why it's 7 games. LA was clearly a half step ahead of New York for more than 50% of the games, especially in the 3rd periods when LA was able to step up and New York wasn't.

No shame in losing to a better team, that's all that happened here.

Problem is there were two other calls in that game that bit the Rangers on the ass, both cheeks. An icing call where Poo had two Kings beat for the puck, a delay of game penalty in OT where the zebra was saying it hit the glass.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

The fact remains that the two huge blown calls turned the series. One, specifically, that led to a goal and a huge momentum swing. The other thing that people fail to realize is that the Rangers game is predicated upon speed and offensive zone attack, which was COMPLETELY nullified by the ridiculous amount of obstruction and interference the kings got away with. The kings led for a grand total of approx. 40 minutes in this 5 game series, of which, contained 2 double overtimes an on single overtime. I hardly call that dominating, even with help from the refs and the linesmen. By the by, what is up with all the BS icing calls?