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The Problem with Quick

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illegal_stick said:
Love Quick, love what he's done for us in the past, BUT... it seems like such a waste to have him backing up Petersen. We know what we have with Quick, an aging veteran, nearing the end. Would have liked to have seen him go elsewhere and get a chance to prove himself, but I assume no one wanted the cap hit and he didn't exactly look like he had much left this year - so no blame on anyone for moving him.

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Are we going to have another year of him as the back-up. If you KNOW that Petersen is the answer then I guess it's fine. He can help mentor him etc. My worry is this - what if Petersen isn't that great? Should we not be using that backup position to see what else we have? I won't go into a whole Jack Campbell thing as I guess we'd be losing him to Seattle anyway, but can someone please tell me what is gained by keeping him there. To me, he is occupying a roster spot that we could be use to be seeing what we have and more importantly, what we NEED in goal.

Love the guy and I'm all for loyalty - but loyalty means rewarding a guy for what he's done. Kings did that - they paid him well AND they kept him around when the rest of the league thought he was done. So now, we're going to go one more year of this - let Quick back up, just because and hope to hell, Petersen is the answer? Here's hoping.
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The Kings made a very big mistake with Quick. They let three very good goaltenders go in Jones, Campbell and Krumpter. They should have traded Quick two seasons ago when he still had value and could have gotten good return on him and they could of had Jones, Krumpter and Peterson even if traded Campbell.
 
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jgs said:
The Kings made a very big mistake with Quick. They let three very good goaltenders go in Jones, Campbell and Krumpter. They should have traded Quick two seasons ago when he still had value and could have gotten good return on him and they could of had Jones, Krumpter and Peterson even if traded Campbell.
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Krumpter never got his due.
 
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jgs said:
The Kings made a very big mistake with Quick. They let three very good goaltenders go in Jones, Campbell and Krumpter. They should have traded Quick two seasons ago when he still had value and could have gotten good return on him and they could of had Jones, Krumpter and Peterson even if traded Campbell.
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Jones has been pretty horrendously terrible the last few seasons.
 
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jgs said:
The Kings made a very big mistake with Quick. They let three very good goaltenders go in Jones, Campbell and Krumpter. They should have traded Quick two seasons ago when he still had value and could have gotten good return on him and they could of had Jones, Krumpter and Peterson even if traded Campbell.
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The mistake with Quick was giving him a 10 year contract minutes after winning the Conn Smythe. Once that happened, there was no alternative. Every other goalie was leaving eventually. Nobody is taking a goalie with that contract. There was no trading Quick. Quick's contract is why Jones had no value back in 2015. If there was a better deal for Jones at the time, outside of DL blindly wanting Lucic no matter what, he would've been dealt for something better. Even Boston got a 1st in the following season, which ended up as a late 1st, none of which helps DL or the Kings at the time. DL still thought the team had something left.
 
jgs said:
The Kings made a very big mistake with Quick. They let three very good goaltenders go in Jones, Campbell and Krumpter. They should have traded Quick two seasons ago when he still had value and could have gotten good return on him and they could of had Jones, Krumpter and Peterson even if traded Campbell.
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I truly believe LA tried to trade Quick instead of Campbell, but there was no one wanting that contract.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
The mistake with Quick was giving him a 10 year contract minutes after winning the Conn Smythe. Once that happened, there was no alternative. Every other goalie was leaving eventually. Nobody is taking a goalie with that contract. There was no trading Quick. Quick's contract is why Jones had no value back in 2015. If there was a better deal for Jones at the time, outside of DL blindly wanting Lucic no matter what, he would've been dealt for something better. Even Boston got a 1st in the following season, which ended up as a late 1st, none of which helps DL or the Kings at the time. DL still thought the team had something left.
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If they didn't give him 10 years what would his cap hit have been? Would the 2014 run been possible?

Point is the deal has worked out just fine IMO. Most years LA has not had to worry about goaltending while paying less than most teams as far as cap hits to netminding. This deal was 100% a success over the life of it, even if Quick stinks it up the next two years.
 
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YP44 said:
If they didn't give him 10 years what would his cap hit have been? Would the 2014 run been possible?

Point is the deal has worked out just fine IMO. Most years LA has not had to worry about goaltending while paying less than most teams as far as cap hits to netminding. This deal was 100% a success over the life of it, even if Quick stinks it up the next two years.
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That's the trick with the cap; term is going to hurt either way. Short term, the money, thus the cap hit, has to bump up big time. Long term, and it's difficult to get rid of the player, so everyone just gets stuck.

The second part would be great, had the Kings managed to do anything. The first year of the deal, 13-14, ended up working out. As we know, everything since then has been crap. Not all on Quick, but if we're talking about what other goalies the Kings should've kept, there wasn't the possibility of keeping anyone else. The day that contract was signed prevented that. Other than Petersen, but only because he's been very cheap. Which, we all hope, changes after next year.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
That's the trick with the cap; term is going to hurt either way. Short term, the money, thus the cap hit, has to bump up big time. Long term, and it's difficult to get rid of the player, so everyone just gets stuck.

The second part would be great, had the Kings managed to do anything. The first year of the deal, 13-14, ended up working out. As we know, everything since then has been crap. Not all on Quick, but if we're talking about what other goalies the Kings should've kept, there wasn't the possibility of keeping anyone else. The day that contract was signed prevented that. Other than Petersen, but only because he's been very cheap. Which, we all hope, changes after next year.
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I would not have kept Bernier, Jones or Kuemper over Quick. Campbell was the one that stuck out to me as wanting to keep, but I don't think Campbell is better than Petersen will be. So not losing sleep there.
 
Johnathan quick is still a better goalie for a playoff run than Campbell, he just runs out of gas for the regular season. Guy has the fire, but his body is worn.

A healthy rotation of Quick & Peterson for the remainder of quickies contract is a fine tandem. He is overpaid, but Quicks contract won’t be a hinderance to the building of the roster over the next few years.
 
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Deaders Ghost said:
Johnathan quick is still a better goalie for a playoff run than Campbell, he just runs out of gas for the regular season. Guy has the fire, but his body is worn.

A healthy rotation of Quick & Peterson for the remainder of quickies contract is a fine tandem. He is overpaid, but Quicks contract won’t be a hinderance to the building of the roster over the next few years.
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agreed and if in the last year someone wants him maybe he is moved out, although I hope LA is in a playoff spot themselves by then
 
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