The problem for Lundqvist

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Not really. It’s not because he’s not capable of winning games it’s becusse of regression of game with salary cap restrictions. It’s a business decision not an emotional one.

Him retiring has nothing to do with it being a business decision. He has an NMC, I believe. That retirement decision is his and his alone.

The best thing for Lundqvist, and the Rangers, is a team gets fooled into believing a once great goalie can take them to the cup and they give up a nice return for him.

 

[GregSirico]

Him retiring has nothing to do with it being a business decision. He has an NMC, I believe. That retirement decision is his and his alone.

The best thing for Lundqvist, and the Rangers, is a team gets fooled into believing a once great goalie can take them to the cup and they give up a nice return for him.

I think that is less likely than him retiring.

 

[kovazub94]

Him retiring has nothing to do with it being a business decision. He has an NMC, I believe. That retirement decision is his and his alone.

The best thing for Lundqvist, and the Rangers, is a team gets fooled into believing a once great goalie can take them to the cup and they give up a nice return for him.

Goalies do not bring nice returns these days and with his price tag it's difficult to see another contender team fitting Lundqvist under their salary cap, let alone giving up assets that the Rangers would be interested in acquiring.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Goalies do not bring nice returns these days and with his price tag it's difficult to see another contender team fitting Lundqvist under their salary cap, let alone giving up assets that the Rangers would be interested in acquiring.

So this scenario is less likely than Lundqvist just deciding to retire and leaving 10's of million on the table that he's rightfully earned?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

So this scenario is less likely than Lundqvist just deciding to retire and leaving 10's of million on the table that he's rightfully earned?

Consider it one last bad commitment to a fickle fan base.

 

[Krams]

So this scenario is less likely than Lundqvist just deciding to retire and leaving 10's of million on the table that he's rightfully earned?

Yes

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Yes

Would you do that?

 

[GregSirico]

So this scenario is less likely than Lundqvist just deciding to retire and leaving 10's of million on the table that he's rightfully earned?

Much less likely. I don’t think either happen but he will retire before he will get traded.

 

[Fvital92]

Several goalies looked good as backups when the team was way, way better [i.e. winning the Presidents' Trophy the wrong way], so will the "any goalie will work" concept still be ok?

Last 2 years the backups were better than Lundqvist, now the King himself is a big part of why this team sucks. Considering that we are not winning the Stanley Cup next year, especially with this version of Lundqvist, I think we would be better of with a so so goalie for a year and using the Cap To improve the rest of the team.

But foremostly, I don't wanna this Lundqvist to taint my amazing memories of him.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Last 2 years the backups were better than Lundqvist, now the King himself is a big part of why this team sucks. Considering that we are not winning the Stanley Cup next year, especially with this version of Lundqvist, I think we would be better of with a so so goalie for a year and using the Cap To improve the rest of the team.

But foremostly, I don't wanna this Lundqvist to taint my amazing memories of him.

Exploring options for Lundqvist is one thing. The willingness to shower the cap space everywhere is what actually scares me.

 

[Fvital92]

Exploring options for Lundqvist is one thing. The willingness to shower the cap space everywhere is what actually scares me.

I belive in JG although the shitty year we are seeing. I'd do the same moves he did until now. Actually, I'm lying. I'd have fired AV ass back to Canada after that horrible job that he did against Ottawa.

 

[GregSirico]

I belive in JG although the ****ty year we are seeing. I'd the same moves he did until now. Actually, I'm lying. I'd have fired AV ass back to Canada after that horrible job that he did against Ottawa.

I would have canned him after the TB loss in the ECF. That G7 was a complete no show. The Sens seres was the icing on the cake. The fact that he’s still here is baffling.

 

[Fvital92]

I would have canned him after the TB loss in the ECF. That G7 was a complete no show. The Sens seres was the icing on the cake. The fact that he’s still here is baffling.

I give him a pass because of the injuries, but yeah, he needs to go.

 

[Krams]

Would you do that?

Would I do what? Trade Lundqvist for a good return?

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Would I do what? Trade Lundqvist for a good return?

Retire and forego $20M because someone on a message board doesnt like how you're playing.

 

[Krams]

Retire and forego $20M because someone on a message board doesnt like how you're playing.

Not sure how that's relevant, the point is that Hank both 1) can't be traded and 2) even hypothetically, wouldn't fetch a nice return. Even if there's an infinitesimally small chance he retires early a la Naslund, that's still greater than 0%

 

[eco's bones]

Even if Henrik were to waive his NMC he is virtually untradeable----just considering that he's a 35 year old with 4 years left of an $8.5 mil per annum cap hit. What teams could handle that cap hit and why would want to? Tack on that he appears to be declining and that most good teams already have at least pretty good and much cheaper goaltending and even some of the average to less than average teams the goaltending isn't a problem and that no team is going to trade for a goalie that makes that much money (and for another 4 years) to be a backup. I really see no avenue for the Rangers to move him and I don't see our team becoming a real contender again until some other goalie (Shesterkin's the most likely) becomes our starter.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

The way I see it:

#1 - Hank is 100% not being traded/he won't waive the clause. Also no team is gonna take, let alone at full cost/ for a significant return. That path is unavailable.

#2 - Hank will not play out his full contract. The way he's declining, I think he will consciously retire at some point. He won't hang around to get the money he "deserves"- hate that narrative btw.

Leave us with the question, when will he retire?

As I posted in the GDT, best case scenario is getting Shesty here next year. Having him and Hank split next year, get some mentoring going and stuff.
And after the 18/19 season Hank will retire and give no f***s about the two years he "left on the table".

 

[True Blue]

Not really. It’s not because he’s not capable of winning games it’s becusse of regression of game with salary cap restrictions. It’s a business decision not an emotional one.

Please explain how this is a sound business decision for Henke?

I don’t think either happen but he will retire before he will get traded.

Based on what do you make this claim?

 

[True Blue]

He won't hang around to get the money he "deserves"- hate that narrative btw.

And yet it is the realistic one

Leave us with the question, when will he retire?

After his contract expires