Post-Game Talk: The Powerhouse at Winnipeg | 2/12/19 - 8PM - MSG

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Anyone who sees that game as anything other than an elite team in the league beating a team in the first year of a rebuild doesn't have a good grasp on this league and how things evolve for teams. We will get there, we are two team on the opposite ends of the spectrum though. Quinn has really coached us to respectability even though he only has 1 line up front and not much to speak about on the back end.
 
Self-titled, Killers, Number, Piece and Powerslave?

Absolutely. After that, it tails off a bit.
Somewhere in Time was amazing and the artwork was genius... Derrick Riggs. I remember listening to that album on cassette and using a magnifying glass to find all the song / album titles hidden throughout the cover. Just brilliant.

I’ll also say that Live After Death might be the best live album ever.

Now I’m going to pull out my CDs today lol
 
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I would definitely add "Somewhere in Time" to that list, other than that, complete agreement :)

But comes back at Brave New World.

I still lump Somewhere In Time in there with the early greats

And Seventh Son of a Seventh Son,which i think might be their best work and my favorite.

Somewhere in Time was amazing and the artwork was genius... Derrick Riggs. I remember listening to that album on cassette and using a magnifying glass to find all the song / album titles hidden throughout the cover. Just brilliant.

I’ll also say that Live After Death might be the best live album ever.

Now I’m going to pull out my CDs today lol

To each their own, but after Powerslave, the albums just weren’t as good in my opinion.

Seventh Son was pretty good, probably the closest of all of them. Somewhere In Time had a few really good songs but the rest of the album was meh. No Prayer and FOTD were ok, but it just felt like they were trying to recycle old material with new lyrics, more so on FOTD than No Prayer.

I actually like Brave New World a lot, Wickerman, Ghost of The Navigator and Out of The Silent Planet are 3 of their more underrated songs, although for a while I got tired of hearing Dickinson’s whoaaaaa from Wicker Man as the Caps used it as part of their goal song.
 
Nah, Hank would be the first to tell you he was bad last night.
If it weren't for Sam having a coronary every time there is a shot on goal, you wouldn't think he had to make more than a couple tough saves. I recall on one save, the Jets shot the puck right into Hank and Sam went nuts! "What a save by Henrik Lundqvist!!"


Both Valiquette and Maloney were critical of Hank last night. Maloney said it was a game where your you needed your goalie to make a save and he didn’t.
 
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Both Valiquette and Maloney were critical of Hank last night. Maloney said it was a game where your you needed your goalie to make a save and he didn’t.

The team isnt good. We have a mish mash of defensemen, and 1 forward line. We spent most of the last two games in our own end against much much better teams. For us to be close in this one and win the one vs Toronto is a testament to our goalies imo. We should be getting blown out, if it wasnt for the coaching and goalies that's what would be happening.
 
But that’s the problem. Hank is good at making the amazing, high-danger saves, but then lets in a softie or two.

The most consistent goaltender of the modern era.

This isn't a 'problem'. If you watched closely around the league, every goaltender gives up soft goals. It happens. This isn't inclusive to just Henrik Lundqvist. It's the same for Holtby, Price, Rinne, etc etc etc.

The game is fast, and mistakes are made. These guys aren't video game characters. Watch any practice, goaltenders let in lots of goals that would be considered 'soft', but in a game everything is magnified since everything counts.

He made a bunch of tough saves in the game, but unfortunately gave up one big softee, and another he would want back. It happens, he's human.

I liked the Rangers overall game last night but good teams like Winnipeg win games like that where we would have been lucky to squeeze that one out.
 
So, if the opposing goalie sucks......they deserve to win?
If every Ranger player was honest......they would say.....yeah, we played well enough to win.......but Hank didn't play well. Sorry, I call a spade a spade.

I did say it seemed Hank didn't have any puck luck.

I meant Rangers deserved to win.
 
The most consistent goaltender of the modern era.

This isn't a 'problem'. If you watched closely around the league, every goaltender gives up soft goals. It happens. This isn't inclusive to just Henrik Lundqvist. It's the same for Holtby, Price, Rinne, etc etc etc.

The game is fast, and mistakes are made. These guys aren't video game characters. Watch any practice, goaltenders let in lots of goals that would be considered 'soft', but in a game everything is magnified since everything counts.

He made a bunch of tough saves in the game, but unfortunately gave up one big softee, and another he would want back. It happens, he's human.

I liked the Rangers overall game last night but good teams like Winnipeg win games like that where we would have been lucky to squeeze that one out.
Yea that’s why I said later on that this may apply to most goalies. They all have a good amount of nights where they make lots of amazing saves, but then let in a couple soft goals.
 
Considering what to expect from Winnipeg, a top team in the league, they battled it out better than I expected. Just think Hank could have saved some of those.
 
Rough game for Hank on the heels of an excellent game by Georgiev. I'm sure the Hate Hank Brigade were out in full force last night.
I didn't hate on Hank, but I did suggest I thought Georgiev should have started, Sure Hank could have had a great game and would have made my suggestion look like crap. I hate to be right......then again, Georgiev could have crapped the bed. My point was that Quinn should have stayed with Georgy boy. I mean, didn't he deserve another game, or was he too exasperated facing 56 shots? Isn't that something coach needs to know moving forward? If he could handle the workload?
Gee, maybe I am stupid, or Quinn didn't wanna have a goaltender controversy. Or both. Lmao.
 
Another uncomfortable fact is that this fanbase seems genuinely upset that we aren't winning these games.
Only the naïve do. Some of their best friends need to give them a clue......no charge of course.

Honestly, at some point in my Rangers fandom......my ultimate hopes....... every game hoping........for wins..... and just getting in, somehow, some way..........with the mantra that "anything can happen", and you have to "be in it, to win it". This is NOT lotto. I have learned that the hard way.

So, if you have a friend that believes this......help them out.
 
I also believe that some of these really good teams out West, are going to be the teams that take that "next step" in adding available players and this will really help us out in what we are trying to accomplish here. Please Gorton, don't screw this up. LEARN from last years mistakes.........waiting too long to pull a trigger, or making one too soon. It is such a difficult job to KNOW what to do and when.......all GM's make mistakes, but this year should be kind of easy.........many teams wanting our players........if you LIKE the offer, take it and run. DO NOT hold out for more and get stuck with the players we NEED TO MOVE.
 
Eh that’s not really uncomfortable imo, it’s what you’d expect. Fans want their team to win.[/QUOTE]
Yeah man, and this is WHY this is most difficult for those that are "in the know". This is WHY sometimes I feel this is some kind of an "underground" web site. Not joking.
 
Yea that’s why I said later on that this may apply to most goalies. They all have a good amount of nights where they make lots of amazing saves, but then let in a couple soft goals.

Those "soft goals".......(for example last nights 1st goal) can sometimes be "missed" shots. I think Hank anticipated a much better, harder and maybe "higher" shot from Scheifele. He will blame himself......because it looked bad, but does Scheifele say, that is what he was trying to do? I doubt it. I don't blame Hank for that goal. It literally was luck. Imo.
IMHO, goalies make the majority of "those kind of great saves" that you wouldn't expect any human being to make. It's those "throw it to the net" crazy kind of bounces or pucks they don't see......that go in at a higher percentage. Hey, I am NO VALLEY, nor want to be......but that is what i see.
If I am a coach, I would absolutely EVERYDAY emphasize getting the puck to the net past the first line of defense. An easy save can mean an easy rebound goal. A deflection off of a defenseman that caroms to an offensive player. Those kind of goals happen WAY MORE OFTEN, than a tic-tac-toe, highlight reel kind of play.........per sé.
You can have all the possession time you want, cycling and cycling, but if you dont eventually "throw the puck, at the net" what is your chance of scoring? ZERO!
Any player, with any kind of decent hands can score 20+ goals, just by camping put in front of the net, and around that immediate area. Throw the puck at the net!

Need proof? 2 guys come to mind. Vesey has 12. How many were talented individual efforts? Snipes? His goals come from being in the right place at the right time, or receiving amazing gifts from Zuccha or Hayes, in which my MOTHER could put in the net. Just saying.
Kreider. He has 24 to date. Not taking anything away from him and his improving his offensive game.......but, aren't a larger amount of his goals coming via deflections and hard work around the net?
 
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Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is very good, too. The dropoff comes after that album, (probably because Adrian Smith left at that point). Once Dickinson and Smith returned, things got better again.
Agree. Seventh Son was good. Dickinson's voice then took a dive in the 90s.

I like a few tracks on X Factor.
 
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