The potential of the San Jose Sharks

JiricekSaveUs

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My opinion is that they still need a lot more. Celebrini is home run. After that, Smith is going to be a top 6 guy and Eklund already is. Dickinson looks like a future top pairing guy but probably not a true 1. For them to be a real contender, I think they need Schaefer, and Smith would need to develop into the 2nd elite forward piece. All of the cup teams have that.

Mackinnon-Rantanen-Makar
Kane-Toews-Kieth
Crosby-Malkin-Letang
Pasta/Marchand-Bergeron-McAvoy/Chara
Eichel-Stone-Pietrangelo
Kopitar-Carter-Doughty

And on and on.

Is Celebrini-Smith-Dickinson going to reach that level of a trio? I’d venture as to say no- but it’s certainly possible. I wouldn’t exit the rebuild until you’re confident you have those 3 pieces though.


Same for the Hawks. Don’t leave the rebuild until you’re absolutely certain you’ve got Bedard a running mate forward and a true 1D. Levshunov might be that, but I’d say there’s a decent chance he’s just a vg defensman and not a great one. They need that forward to go with Bedard pretty badly though, and I don’t know that they get that in this draft.
 

Ignatius

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There's still all of these people crapping on the sharks for taking Smith over Michkov, even though 6 other teams did as well.

This is the worst and it is extremely obnoxious at this point. At the time no one was so high on Michkov at all, he was seen as high risk and potentially high reward but a big gamble. Now that he is in the show and doing well all the incredibly insecure Smart Marks are coming out and trying to convince everyone that they're soo much smarter than everyone else.

Long live HF!
 

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so far SJS rebuild seems to be the most balanced. focusing on the most important aspects of setting up a core. and doing so in pretty quick fashion too. Askarov is a huge get. It has the hallmarks of the Penguins rebuild. findign that Selke level centerman a la Staal and Hischier is goign to be their next step. After the Devils' this one is probably the one I'm most interested in.
 

Ace Card Bedard

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Same for the Hawks. Don’t leave the rebuild until you’re absolutely certain you’ve got Bedard a running mate forward and a true 1D. Levshunov might be that, but I’d say there’s a decent chance he’s just a vg defensman and not a great one. They need that forward to go with Bedard pretty badly though, and I don’t know that they get that in this draft.

Hagens, Martone, and Misa?
You don't have them as future top line forwards?
 

JiricekSaveUs

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Hagens, Martone, and Misa?
You don't have them as future top line forwards?
Maybe top line forwards, but outside of Hagens I don’t think Misa or Martone are going to be elite forwards that you look at as the #2 on a championship team. I just don’t see a Rantanen, Pasta, Toews, etc. type in that group.
 

Tw1ster

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so far SJS rebuild seems to be the most balanced. focusing on the most important aspects of setting up a core. and doing so in pretty quick fashion too. Askarov is a huge get. It has the hallmarks of the Penguins rebuild. findign that Selke level centerman a la Staal and Hischier is goign to be their next step. After the Devils' this one is probably the one I'm most interested in.
To be fair I think Celebrini, even with his high offensive potential, will be that Selke level centre, though adding another wouldn’t hurt
 
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CanadienShark

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so far SJS rebuild seems to be the most balanced. focusing on the most important aspects of setting up a core. and doing so in pretty quick fashion too. Askarov is a huge get. It has the hallmarks of the Penguins rebuild. findign that Selke level centerman a la Staal and Hischier is goign to be their next step. After the Devils' this one is probably the one I'm most interested in.
Celebrini projects to be our Selke contender.
 
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Luigi Lemieux

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potential really doesn't matter much as every sharks fan already knows. Grier has created the opportunity for success a lot faster than anyone had thought.
I think he picked the right coach as well, despite him being young and new. He lets them play and be creative, and isn't too rigid like so many coaches can be. They can tighten up later as they're transitioning into a cup contender, but right now building confidence and learning to produce in the nhl is more important.
 
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Crosby2010

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In the future, they'll be just fine. And that might even mean now. They started the season 0-7-2. With Celebrini getting hurt his first game. Since then? 10-6-3. Don't laugh, but the Sharks could make the playoffs in 2025. They may not, but they aren't cellar dwellers anymore. Celebrini looks poised to be an Olympian next year. Who'd have thought that would happen over Bedard?
 

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It's funny too because all of the people were ripping on Grier for things like

"he should've retained more on Erik Karlsson"...even though we ended up with Granlund (who's been better and cheaper, and can be moved this year) and Dickinson (eventually).

Or "He should've demanded Holtz in the Meier trade" even though he got Zetterlund, Musty, Muhkamdulin etc. back in that trade.

"It's embarassing how bad of a roster he constructed"...well yeah that resulted in Macklin Celebrini, and he finally cleared us of tons of bad contracts

And there's still all of these people crapping on the sharks for taking Smith over Michkov, even though 6 other teams did as well.

Very happy with everything he has done. Maybe the Burns return never became anything but he was an old dman making 8M...it happens.
The Burns trade was more about doing a solid to someone who put in his time with our competitive team but they got three 3rd round pick prospects to show for that deal at this stage. Jack Thompson, Brandon Svoboda, and Carson Wetsch may develop into something.
 

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