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The Playoff Push, Tanking and Scoreboard Watching Thread

ToastedRavioli said:
I almost feel bad at this point...

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TheDizee said:
Utah 4-2 EN goal

big night for Blues, deserved 0 pts and got 2. Calgary loses and gets 0.
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Im not sure why the blues deserved 0. We played tough defense and vastly outshot the redwings the whole game. I dont think we dominated despite the shot total, but i thought both teams playedngood defense and got great goaltending. Talbot let in a stoppable goal at the endnofnthe 3rd but also was making great saves throughout the game.
 
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WATTAGE4451 said:
Im not sure why the blues deserved 0. We played tough defense and vastly outshot the redwings the whole game. I dont think we dominated despite the shot total, but i thought both teams playedngood defense and got great goaltending. Talbot let in a stoppable goal at the endnofnthe 3rd but also was making great saves throughout the game.
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Agreed, the Blues were the better team and SHOULD have won. In the end, it was an exciting comeback win. Fun to watch.
 
I'm consistently impressed at the disconnect between JFresh's underlying data and his actual takes.

The Jets are the worst example in the league for a team that cares what expected goal differential says. Potentially one of the worst examples ever. This is a metric that completely removes their best player from the equation. Their team is built around Helly being the best in the world at preventing teams from actually reaching their expected goals. And he is really, really good at doing that.

"If you ignore the goalies, the Jets should be worried." Cool. Good take my guy.
 
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Brian39 said:
I'm consistently impressed at the disconnect between JFresh's underlying data and his actual takes.

The Jets are the worst example in the league for a team that cares what expected goal differential says. Potentially one of the worst examples ever. This is a metric that completely removes their best player from the equation. Their team is built around Helly being the best in the world at preventing teams from actually reaching their expected goals. And he is really, really good at doing that.

"If you ignore the goalies, the Jets should be worried." Cool. Good take my guy.
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Yeah, similar to the Rangers with Lundqvist. The only way they advanced in the playoffs was when Lundqvist was able to play like he did in the regular season or better. Hellebuyck has definitely been hit or miss in the playoffs, and that's also likely highlighted that the team in front of him isn't as good as they are in the standings because he's the one driving their success, so he has to continue to drive the success in the playoffs.
 
I think the Avs will be able to stay ahead of us in the standings, but it’s amazing to be able to add them into my scoreboard watching.

I don’t expect any help in their game against the Hawks tonight though.
 
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Beninnola said:
A problem is that they’re a big glass cannon, and Makar is a Norris finalist that will be on the ice close to half the game.

Necas is 6’3, nikuchken is 6’4, Coyle is 6’3, Nathan MacKinnon plays like he’s 6’4, (only 6 foot but really), Brock Nelson is 6’4

I think they have some obvious holes but then they’re so exceptional in some ways, including a bit of a home team benefit of training at altitude. They’re as good as it gets if the game is decided by the best 5 vs the best 5.

Really hard for me to pick any other team as my paper cup favorite. Dallas would be with heiskenen and maybe if a few of their guys were a tad younger or older. The jets would be if they didn’t blow my bracket up last year. (I’m petty).
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Well that's the thing right? Glass cannons are still cannons - they are going to absolutely kill you if you can't get to them first and prevent them from setting fire. There's also something to be said about their team chemistry and quality of depth. I think their 4th line is whatever, 3rd line statistically is playing decently, but if you look at their numbers in totality, they are struggling. Colton is about where he was last year, Coyle is made little impact on the scoresheet for Colorado, and Kiviranta is shooting at 20% when his career shooting% is 11. I think that their 3rd line is not bad, but comparing it statistically to the Blues is either a wash or worse than ours in my opinion. Of the forwards I'm actually scared to go up against, it's Mackinnon, Necas, Nelson, and Nichushkin, the rest are good players but they are not necessarily "better" than ours. They have a formidable 1st pair, but outside of that I think their defense is just fine on paper. And then their goaltending is unproven in the postseason which isn't necessarily a slight on Blackwood, but it is what it is.

Vegas is the team I would least like to play, but I think Winnipeg and Colorado matchup better for the Blues than Vegas. All of this doesn't matter though because we could end up being swept in the first round, but this is how I'm feeling at the moment.
 
Lol Gabe Perrault just scored his first NHL goal for the Wild. Very nice of him to defelct Faber's shot past Shesterkin
 
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I hope they stay ahead of us. I want ZERO part of Vegas in the 1st round. They are a cup finalist IMHO and Dallas might be the only team I see with a chance at beating them.
 
TruBlueFan1970 said:
I hope they stay ahead of us. I want ZERO part of Vegas in the 1st round. They are a cup finalist IMHO and Dallas might be the only team I see with a chance at beating them.
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Dallas has a very real chance of catching WPG for C1 (31% according to moneypuck). If that happens, who’s your preference then?!?
 
TruBlueFan1970 said:
I hope they stay ahead of us. I want ZERO part of Vegas in the 1st round. They are a cup finalist IMHO and Dallas might be the only team I see with a chance at beating them.
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Adin hill scares me far less than helly. Helly had a couple rough postseasons but had good postseason stats before that and is one of the best goalies in the league capable of dominating an opponent. Adin hill is just a average to slightly above average guy whose team took him to a cup. He can be beat
 
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I agree with the phrase "playing with house money" that's been thrown around to describe this team.

If they don't win another cup this year, that's cool (although I think we all wouldn't mind "Gloria run 2")

Either way, it's painfully obvious that we're witnessing a new contending window that just opened.

Bright future for sure. :D:thumbu::nod::cool:
 
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TeamMagic Number to clinch PlayoffsCurrent PointsGames RemainingPossible PointsRWROWCommon Games
Wild98961013338vs C, vs V
Blues98961013037vs U
Flames.828982631vs W
Canucks.817952631vs W
Utah.807942633vs B

I’ll fix this if Vancouver comes back from 3 goals down in the 3rd, but I don’t see them pulling that off.

I think Minnesota will do just enough to back into the playoffs. Vancouver may have cashed in their chips tonight.

In action tomorrow: Ducks @ Flames, Kings @ Utah, Penguins @ Blues.
 
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