The playoff push / tanking and scoreboard watching thread

[ChicagoBlues]

Sounds like I have a medical condition lol

If an expanded consciousness is a medical condition, then I, too, am afflicted.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Where did I ridicule any fan? I ridiculed Binnington's comment and that ridiculous Blues social media team post trying to sell fans on doing nothing at the TDL. I disagree with fans wanting to win, but I have not ridiculed them. They have ridiculed me for prioritizing the desire for long term success over short term.

And yes, you can get great players with later picks. Everyone loves to name 5-10 names out of the hundreds of late round picks every year. The odds are better to get better players by picking earlier. Name all the Benn, Kucherov's and Parayko's you want. they are the exception, not the rule.

Would you be on board if I advocated for trading away our entire draft for the next 10 years because I can name a half dozen great undrafted NHL players? Bobrovsky, Martin St. Louis, Mark Giordano. Who needs draft picks at all?

But love cures all.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

Where did I ridicule any fan? I ridiculed Binnington's comment and that ridiculous Blues social media team post trying to sell fans on doing nothing at the TDL. I disagree with fans wanting to win, but I have not ridiculed them. They have ridiculed me for prioritizing the desire for long term success over short term.

And yes, you can get great players with later picks. Everyone loves to name 5-10 names out of the hundreds of late round picks every year. The odds are better to get better players by picking earlier. Name all the Benn, Kucherov's and Parayko's you want. they are the exception, not the rule.

Would you be on board if I advocated for trading away our entire draft for the next 10 years because I can name a half dozen great undrafted NHL players? Bobrovsky, Martin St. Louis, Mark Giordano. Who needs draft picks at all?

Nothing you wrote signaled Binnington. Montgomery has made positive comments about the locker room this past week, too. (So have I.) I thought Binnington was just echoing his coach. It reads like you’re ridiculing anyone who values the locker room development down the stretch as being irrelevant.

I won’t take your comment personally, but it was easy to read it that way after I posted favorably about Montgomery’s comments.

My broader point about cognitive dissonance in rooting against the players succeeding in the short term is the more important part.

 

[Majorityof1]

Nothing you wrote signaled Binnington. Montgomery has made positive comments about the locker room this past week, too. (So have I.) I thought Binnington was just echoing his coach. It reads like you’re ridiculing anyone who values the locker room development down the stretch as being irrelevant.

I won’t take your comment personally, but it was easy to read it that way after I posted favorably about Montgomery’s comments.

My broader point about cognitive dissonance in rooting against the players succeeding in the short term is the more important part.

I don't even remember you talking about Montgomery's comments. I was referring to the following video literally titled "Love is building in the Blues locker room" and pulling the quote from Binnington...



I don't care what you think of the sentiments, the execution is incredibly cheesy. The timing is ridiculous, releasing right after the TDL. Its a blatant attempt to manipulate the fan base. It worked on some.

As for the cognitive dissonance, that only exists for the short-sighted. It's just like in business, when you are in a growth phase, you may take losses to gain customers. Start off with low prices, taking big losses up front to convince customers to try your products. For someone thinking only about the immediate future, this might seem dissonant. Why would someone intentionally take a loss. But that loss up front can be recouped and then more down the line as you grow the business. Losing now is better for the team in the long run. So I am cheering for that. I don't expect the players to intentionally lose. but I still hope they do. No cognitive dissonance here. I think losing the last 18 games will give us more wins and more important wins in the future.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Love conquers all.

 

[BlueDream]

I don't even remember you talking about Montgomery's comments. I was referring to the following video literally titled "Love is building in the Blues locker room" and pulling the quote from Binnington...



I don't care what you think of the sentiments, the execution is incredibly cheesy. The timing is ridiculous, releasing right after the TDL. Its a blatant attempt to manipulate the fan base. It worked on some.

As for the cognitive dissonance, that only exists for the short-sighted. It's just like in business, when you are in a growth phase, you may take losses to gain customers. Start off with low prices, taking big losses up front to convince customers to try your products. For someone thinking only about the immediate future, this might seem dissonant. Why would someone intentionally take a loss. But that loss up front can be recouped and then more down the line as you grow the business. Losing now is better for the team in the long run. So I am cheering for that. I don't expect the players to intentionally lose. but I still hope they do. No cognitive dissonance here. I think losing the last 18 games will give us more wins and more important wins in the future.

But nobody is being manipulated. Even if the social media team posted absolutely nothing, the vast majority of fans (regardless of team or sport) care about seeing their favorite team win games NOW. That takes priority over literally anything else. Enjoying winning in the moment will always come first over future success for most people. And sure, a lot of this is because there are lots of casual fans, so the hardcore fans that are thinking about the future may be ‘smarter’ per se, but that doesn’t change the truth.

 

[Ranksu]

I don't even remember you talking about Montgomery's comments. I was referring to the following video literally titled "Love is building in the Blues locker room" and pulling the quote from Binnington...



I don't care what you think of the sentiments, the execution is incredibly cheesy. The timing is ridiculous, releasing right after the TDL. Its a blatant attempt to manipulate the fan base. It worked on some.

As for the cognitive dissonance, that only exists for the short-sighted. It's just like in business, when you are in a growth phase, you may take losses to gain customers. Start off with low prices, taking big losses up front to convince customers to try your products. For someone thinking only about the immediate future, this might seem dissonant. Why would someone intentionally take a loss. But that loss up front can be recouped and then more down the line as you grow the business. Losing now is better for the team in the long run. So I am cheering for that. I don't expect the players to intentionally lose. but I still hope they do. No cognitive dissonance here. I think losing the last 18 games will give us more wins and more important wins in the future.

Jeesus that video is terrible. Feels like they live on some wonderland. Zero reality.

 

[Spear]

Love conquers all.

2019 had GLORIA!

2025 has:

 

[bleedblue1223]

Dallas beat Vancouver in regulation.

 

[TheDizee]

dallas whooped that canuck ass tonight, damn

 

[TheDizee]

Keep a eye on Minnesota. They are free falling and if it continues this week, they could be on the edge of losing a WC spot now. A second WC spot may be opening up in the coming weeks, the Wild cannot score at all and their schedule, while being home game heavy, is brutal

 

[ds774622]

Keep a eye on Minnesota. They are free falling and if it continues this week, they could be on the edge of losing a WC spot now. A second WC spot may be opening up in the coming weeks, the Wild cannot score at all and their schedule, while being home game heavy, is brutal

I think you're on to something. Blues are off until Thursday and 7 points behind MIN. Their game in hand is played on Tuesday at home against COL, then they continue their homestand against NYR, STL, and LAK.

Let's make some assumptions based on how each teams are trending. Let's say MIN loses to COL and beats NYR on Thursday, while we beat PIT. If we can salvage the last game of our series with MIN on Saturday, then beat the Ducks (while MIN loses to LAK), we could be only 3 points back of MIN in about a week. Obviously a relatively best-case-scenario that I'm laying out here. It's very helpful if we can do our part to really drag MIN back into the wild card fight.

VAN and CGY also play on Wednesday, so hoping for just a regulation win for either.