OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Oh no! They are 3 and 1. Panic!

[Empoleon8771]

Also in terms of TDs, there are literally 0 QBs in the NFL averaging 3 TDs a game.

I just find it hilarious that the same person who does backflips to defend Tomlin and the playcalling also puts these downright ridiculous expectations on Fields to be successful. There are literally 0 QBs in the NFL who are hitting all of:

1. 250 passing yards with the ~27 passing attempts the Steelers are calling per game
2. 50 rushing yards with the ~8 QB rushing attempts the Steelers have per game
3. 3 total TDs from a QB

Hell, I don't even know if there's a QB hitting literally any of those points. There are no QBs with 3 TDs per game and there are no QBs with a high enough Y/A to hit 250 passing yards in 27 passing attempts. To get 50 rushing yards per 8 rushing attempts, you need to be a Lamar Jackson caliber running threat at QB. 50 rushing yards per game from your QB is 850 yards over a full season, while Lamar finished last year with 821 rushing yards in 16 games.

This all just goes back to the reality that the peopel shitting on Fields are putting just downright ridiculous requirements on him and saying he's failing because he's not hitting those absurd requirements. The expectations of "250 passing yards, 50 rushing yards and 3 TDs a game" is literally not even what Lamar Jackson is capable of meeting.

And for clarity, the standard I hold Fields to for a "good game" is 250 net yards and a +2 TD-turnover ratio (so 2 more passing or rushing TDs per game than interceptions or fumbles). I feel like that is a completely reasonable standard to hold a QB to in 2024. That's basically what he did against the Chargers (251 net yards, 2 total TDs and 1 interception) and I'd consider that a "good" game for him because I felt the interception was fluky.

 

[xlm34]

Well it’s good to know bigdaddy has completely reasonable expectations for a QB of 4,250 passing yards, 850 rushing yards, and 51 touchdowns in a season

 

[Empoleon8771]

Well it’s good to know bigdaddy has completely reasonable expectations for a QB of 4,250 passing yards, 850 rushing yards, and 51 touchdowns in a season

That was a much more concise way than I put it

Either way, Lamar won the 2023 MVP with averaging 230 passing yards and 50 rushing yards per game with 24 passing TDs and 5 rushing TDs. The idea that Fields would have to somehow surpass that to be acceptable is just dumb.

My hope for Fields for a "good year" would be something like:

-3400 passing yards
-600 rushing yards
-30 combined passing and rushing TDs
-Fewer than 15 total turnovers

That's similar to what Lamar did last year (4500 yards, 29 TDs and 14 total turnovers).

 

[Peat]

I got curious and looked up QBs even getting 50 TDs. Rodgers was the last QB to beat that total in 2020 I think. He only did it once in his career. Best I can tell, ditto Brady/Mahomes/Manning.

Or, in other words, 51 touchdowns would represent a once in a career spike for the best four to do it this century.

Or, alternately, a passing grade for Fields.

Really quite sublime.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Jalen hurts last season 23 passing td 15 rushing tds 3800 passing 600 yards rushing. Fields right now has 5 passing TDS and 3 running 961 yards passing 172 rushing.
He threw for 2500 yards 16 tds ran 650 4 tds in Chicago in 13 starts
If he gets 17 starts he should come close to 30 tds if he is the guy.
More likely its a Daniel Jones type season 700 yards rushing 7 td 3200 passing and 15 tds but he won a playoff game before he got 40 million
Ryan Tanahill threw for 3700 yards and 33 tds under smith
There going to get a wr 2 and even if RW starts Smith will want them to re up Fields to compete with the rookie next season