OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Off Season We dont need a QB Edition

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Rodgers had to go visit the crappy facilities 🤣 . That is probably why he left without a deal. That, and if he met with Tomlin’s clowns of a coaching staff, I am sure he was underwhelmed.
 
Is turning 2 years 30m into 2 years 40m really such a bad decision though? Would you have got worked up if the Steelers have given Fields that?

I don't think I would have, which is why I'm a bit down on this. They didn't avoid a bad decision, they avoided what looks like at most a meh decision for... what? Not overpaying? Some flexibility that they may or may not use wiser or stupider than not paying Fields?
Is turning 2 years $30M into 2 years 40M really such a good decision though? Would you have got excited if the Steelers had given Fields that?

I think the answers are the same because he's not significant enough to make a big difference one way or the other.

They (likely) got what they needed. A starter in 2025 with Rodgers and a bridge to the next guy in Rudolph. Add in a little extra cap flexibility next year and it seems fine to me.
 
Is turning 2 years $30M into 2 years 40M really such a good decision though? Would you have got excited if the Steelers had given Fields that?

I think the answers are the same because he's not significant enough to make a big difference one way or the other.

They (likely) got what they needed. A starter in 2025 with Rodgers and a bridge to the next guy in Rudolph. Add in a little extra cap flexibility next year and it seems fine to me.

Yeah, it's all in the meh zone.

If they get Rodgers and he's not a disaster, well and good. If that goes wrong, if they strike out or he melts down... well, that's probably best for the Steelers, but not best for the guys in charge. See how it works out from here.
 
Yeah, it's all in the meh zone.

If they get Rodgers and he's not a disaster, well and good. If that goes wrong, if they strike out or he melts down... well, that's probably best for the Steelers, but not best for the guys in charge. See how it works out from here.
I think how Fields does in NY will be a bigger factor on people's perception than Rodgers, actually, but I don't think Khan and certainly not Tomlin are in any danger of losing their jobs either way. So what's best for the Steelers is still best for them. Any criticism they take will all be forgotten if it leads them to getting their next franchise guy.
 
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You are so emotional that it's almost painful.
Is that right? I'm just not enamored with a 41 yr old QB coming off a serious injury and as great as he was dictating this to the degree he is. Much like yourself, the Steelers lack couth and dignity. Regardless, whether they get him or not it likely won't change the trajectory all that much. We'll remain in the mushy middle.
 
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How is he holding them hostage? Is there something he's prohibiting the team from doing by not signing?
They're letting him dictate the time table and the how and why. That's not what a blueblood of the NFL should be doing. Particularly for a 41 yr old who's seen better days. I agree with Heyward, either you wanna be here or you don't. Not sure how or why that opinion should be polarizing.
 
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Rodgers had to go visit the crappy facilities 🤣 . That is probably why he left without a deal. That, and if he met with Tomlin’s clowns of a coaching staff, I am sure he was underwhelmed.
With all the wealth this team has ownership could upgrade and modernize their facilities significantly and don't.
 
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Waited around on Aiyuk last year, this year it's Rodgers. I guess that's the new normal for this team. #sloppyseconds. :laugh:
 
Right he is old and its a 1 year deal but he didn’t lose snaps he had the 2nd most defensive snaps on the eagles last season. Cooper played more slot snaps. He can teach JPJ and Trice some tricks in man coverage



What is he gonna say?'' I don't wanna work with him''? That's a fluff piece. And there are 10 million reasons as to why.

Hey, if we fall down the standings this coming season and get our franchise QB in '26, fine by me! But lets not pretend we're signing the best of the best here.
 
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The more I think about it I think they should run with Rudolph and draft a QB. Who that is I really don’t know but it would be a mistake to sign Rodgers because we will be right back here in the same position in 2026.

If they'd be in the same position in 2026, they're better off doing that because the 2026 draft has significantly better QBs than the 2025 draft.
 
The more I think about it I think they should run with Rudolph and draft a QB. Who that is I really don’t know but it would be a mistake to sign Rodgers because we will be right back here in the same position in 2026.
I'd run with Rudolph however I wouldn't prioritize a QB until '26. This is a bad QB class.
 
Is that right? I'm just not enamored with a 41 yr old QB coming off a serious injury and as great as he was dictating this to the degree he is. Much like yourself, the Steelers lack couth and dignity. Regardless, whether they get him or not it likely won't change the trajectory all that much. We'll remain in the mushy middle.
Rodgers played all 17 games last season so he isn’t coming off a major injury. They are more likely to win a playoff game with Rodgers than Fields or Mason. Cam has been talking about the need for urgency
 
Rodgers played all 17 games last season so he isn’t coming off a major injury. They are more likely to win a playoff game with Rodgers than Fields or Mason. Cam has been talking about the need for urgency
The team by these moves is not indicating they're acting with a heightened sense of urgency. Acting more in a wait and see approach. If they miss out on AR it's probably for the better.

Honestly, I'd rather take a step backward in '25 to make bigger strides in '26.
 
The team by these moves is not indicating they're acting with a heightened sense of urgency. Acting more in a wait and see approach. If they miss out on AR it's probably for the better.

Honestly, I'd rather take a step backward in '25 to make bigger strides in '26.
To me the record in 25 doesn’t matter. I want to see the o line continue to grow and Gp earn his extension. We will see Warren as the clear number 1 rb on offense.
Defense will be about individual growth on the young dl guys they draft and does Jpj make the next jump
 
The team by these moves is not indicating they're acting with a heightened sense of urgency. Acting more in a wait and see approach. If they miss out on AR it's probably for the better.

Honestly, I'd rather take a step backward in '25 to make bigger strides in '26.
The sense of urgency is not to compete for another championship, it's simply to finish where they have been finishing for the last decade plus to keep the heat off the staff.........a staff that wouldn't be able to find any other NFL jobs if they were let go by the Steelers.

Truly a sad state of affairs. Very comparable to the Pirates. The only difference is revenue sharing and the CAP.
 
To me the record in 25 doesn’t matter. I want to see the o line continue to grow and Gp earn his extension. We will see Warren as the clear number 1 rb on offense.
Defense will be about individual growth on the young dl guys they draft and does Jpj make the next jump
If that's the case we should consider moving Minkah. I doubt they move him or Watt but that'd be a big haul if we could. I love Watt but he's probably seen his best days.

In the draft I'd go DT, CB and then RB. Probably get a depth DT in RD 5 or 6.
 
The sense of urgency is not to compete for another championship, it's simply to finish where they have been finishing for the last decade plus to keep the heat off the staff.........a staff that wouldn't be able to find any other NFL jobs if they were let go by the Steelers.

Truly a sad state of affairs. Very comparable to the Pirates. The only difference is revenue sharing and the CAP.
Hiring Smith as they did just shows their inability/willingness to a modernize and evolve the offensive scheme. That was a tell tell sign that they embrace the mushy middle. They're risk averse and indeed live in their fears.

I do like Khans drafting however, but the coaches take a neanderthal outdated approach.
 
Hiring Smith as they did just shows their inability/willingness to a modernize and evolve the offensive scheme. That was a tell tell sign that they embrace the mushy middle. They're risk averse and indeed live in their fears.

I do like Khans drafting however, but the coaches take a neanderthal outdated approach.
What don’t you like about Smiths scheme
 
The sense of urgency is not to compete for another championship, it's simply to finish where they have been finishing for the last decade plus to keep the heat off the staff.........a staff that wouldn't be able to find any other NFL jobs if they were let go by the Steelers.

Truly a sad state of affairs. Very comparable to the Pirates. The only difference is revenue sharing and the CAP.
They are a 10-7 with whoever is at Qb
 
If that's the case we should consider moving Minkah. I doubt they move him or Watt but that'd be a big haul if we could. I love Watt but he's probably seen his best days.

In the draft I'd go DT, CB and then RB. Probably get a depth DT in RD 5 or 6.
I dont think they draft a cb in round 3. If they trade down from 21 and get more picks sure
 
I dont think they draft a cb in round 3. If they trade down from 21 and get more picks sure
If we keep GP we are set at WR. Metcalf, Pickens, Roman and CA3, not bad if Wilson grasps the playbook.. If we can get a quality CB in rd 3 I'd be thrilled. We're not deep enough there. Plus Slay could mentor him. :thumbu:
 

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