OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: No 3peat for the Swifts

[JTG]

Sanders is one of those dudes that you don't bet against though. He has the confidence his father does. He's not going to fail from a lack of trying or preparing. I also think he'd be a good teammate and leader. I am just don't think his talent makes taking him a good move with where he is slated to go - it'd be another Najee/Kenny situation.

 

[xlm34]

Sign me up for the CB plan outlined in this.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'm definitely good with using FA to lock up a CB2, don't need to spend another pick on it.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

I don’t have a problem with signing Slay if he comes at a good figure. But they also need to sign a slot CB, Hilton or Hobbs, as well. Good to hear they are looking into it.

I know some people will balk at spending more money on defense. But I firmly believe in leaning into draft strengths and weakness.

This draft is exceptionally strong in DL and RB and the Steelers are extremely lacking in those areas. Lean into it.

Supplement the rest of the roster accordingly. Add a #2 WR in FA, Pay money to get a good guard like Fries or Jenkins or Becton.

 

[Empoleon8771]

That article actually has a lot of good nuggets:

-Sutton, Slayton and Kirk are mentioned as WR targets, WR and CB are their 2 primary positions to fill. The Steelers would have traded for Kirk if not for his injury so he's a logical guy they'd target.
-They want to add DL help, with mentioning Wharton and Hargrave as two names to watch.
-Any OL help they're looking at will be depth.
-Harris is almost definitely gone and they want to sign Warren to a long-term deal.

Not that the Warren news is surprising, but I wonder if they'll want to draft a power back to complement Warren. I've been advocating for Henderson with their 2nd, but I think drafting Johnson as the power back in the 2nd and keeping Warren as the speed back would make more sense.

My guess on their current plan:

1. Sign someone like Slayton to be their WR2 and Dobbs to be their CB2 in free agency
2. Draft a DL, RB and WR with their top-3 picks.
3. Pay one of Fields or Wilson on a 2 year, $15 million a year or so deal.
4. Draft a QB in 2026

 

[JTG]

I like DJ Giddens as a 2nd back to Warren. He ran a 4.4, had a great 10 yard split, almost 40in vert, so he has explosion. He doesn't fumble. He's just not very polished as a blocker like Judkins and Henderson are.

 

[Peat]

Yeah between that plus his comments about wanting to play for Tomlin, I'd be surprised for them to not sign him. I'm not crazy about going after a 34 year old CB, but the dude can objectively still play.

Peterson's numbers were pretty good the season before they signed him too tho. I'd still be worried.

Brugler’s mock today had Sanders falling to the Steelers. I can’t really see that happening and have no idea how I’d feel about it.

He also said as of now it doesn’t seem like teams will be eager to spend day two picks to move up in a “relatively light first round”

I've only started to delve into the draft but right now it feels like I'm reading a lot of push back on the idea that Sanders is a genuine shot at a franchise QB who should go top 10. There's all the muttering about his attitude - and I have no idea if that's true but there's plenty of it - and some about his talent levels, where it feels like he'll have to be maxed out in terms of his game IQ and he doesn't show that he has it.

His last name clearly complicates everything in terms of people's perceptions so I'm very hesitant to say what I believe, but when I don't know what to believe in sports, I generally believe in sticking with the consensus, and and I think that if the consensus says we don't like this QB enough to take around the top 10 you've got to ask yourself really hard whether he's good bet.

I think Sanders will have a career like Mayfield.

Wash out dramatically on his first team after showing early promise, come good elsewhere after growing up a bit? Plausible, but doesn't make being his first team attractive

I don’t have a problem with signing Slay if he comes at a good figure. But they also need to sign a slot CB, Hilton or Hobbs, as well. Good to hear they are looking into it.

I know some people will balk at spending more money on defense. But I firmly believe in leaning into draft strengths and weakness.

This draft is exceptionally strong in DL and RB and the Steelers are extremely lacking in those areas. Lean into it.

Supplement the rest of the roster accordingly. Add a #2 WR in FA, Pay money to get a good guard like Fries or Jenkins or Becton.

I think in terms of DL, they should probably go after it in FA and the draft. But otherwise yeah.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

I don’t have a problem with signing Slay if he comes at a good figure. But they also need to sign a slot CB, Hilton or Hobbs, as well. Good to hear they are looking into it.

Beanie Bishop was doing just fine as a slot CB until the Dunce Tomlin decided to continually play Sutton over him for reasons unknown. Note that as soon as Sutton started getting more PT the defense went to crap bc he was going off script.

 

[JTG]

Yeah Beanie is definitely a good slot corner.

I'll tell you what - Nick Emmanwori may be it. He needs pro coaching. You need measurables...got it. Production...got it. Pedigree...got it. Smarts...got it. Tone setter mentality...got it. Of all the prospects, I think he has the least amount of holes than any prospect, IMO and represents next generation of NFL DB type of ability.

 

[LesCactus]

I have a bad feeling we’re signing Rodgers and his buddies.

 

[JTG]

I have a bad feeling we’re signing Rodgers and his buddies.

Stop it right now

 

[LesCactus]

I pray that they do sign Nate Hobbs though. I wouldn’t be against trading for Kupp either, we just can’t have another season of Van Jefferson as WR2.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I have a bad feeling we’re signing Rodgers and his buddies.

Nah that doesn't feel like a Steelers kind of move.

They're not desperate enough to deal with the circus that comes with Rodgers.

 

[Peat]

Right now I think I more or less trust the scuttlebutt they want one of Fields or Wilson. They've said it often enough and it makes sense they want the stability.

If they miss there, which would be quite incompetent at this stage, maybe ARod comes into play, but it's a tough scheme fit for all Tomlin loves him some veteran know how. My guess would be Daniel Jones as third choice, which might make some people look for ARod.

I would also add that this team seems pretty open to signing circuses though. I would love for them to change their ways there but I don't see a bunch of signs, and if anything sticking with Pickens says "definitely desperate enough to put up with a circus".

 

[xlm34]

Here’s the latest rumors from Matthew Berry…which are the same things we’ve been hearing for a while now.

5. I’m hearing that the Steelers are going to keep one of their QBs, and that it’s going to be Justin Fields. He’s younger, of course, but he is also ultimately a better fit for what they want to be offensively, and the coaching staff definitely likes Fields more than Wilson.

6. Which means Russell Wilson is on the move, and I heard that there’s something to the Pete Carroll – Russell Wilson reunion in Las Vegas rumors. I heard there have even been conversations and the thought process is, some version of: “Hey, we both got fired in Seattle, we were better together than apart, let’s figure out a way past our differences and run it back,” or some such. It makes a lot of sense on a lot of levels.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Right now I think I more or less trust the scuttlebutt they want one of Fields or Wilson. They've said it often enough and it makes sense they want the stability.

If they miss there, which would be quite incompetent at this stage, maybe ARod comes into play, but it's a tough scheme fit for all Tomlin loves him some veteran know how. My guess would be Daniel Jones as third choice, which might make some people look for ARod.

I would also add that this team seems pretty open to signing circuses though. I would love for them to change their ways there but I don't see a bunch of signs, and if anything sticking with Pickens says "definitely desperate enough to put up with a circus".

Yeah my feeling right now is that they want Fields, but Fields is waiting for the Steelers to up their offer or he'll test FA. If not Fields they'll go Wilson. If Wilson is somehow gone, they would have really screwed up.