OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: No 3peat for the Swifts

[xlm34]

Fantastic, our only two coaches worth a damn - Grady Brown and Aaron Curry are gone.

Changes = let guys on expiring contracts go.

 

[JTG]

Jalen Carter? He’s lucky he didn’t up in prison.

That is very true, however, doesn't change the fact he was the best player in that draft by a fair margin. He has the same problems that Pickens has, and to a lesser extent Jones has. Enough UGA guys have almost been a problem where I'd start to avoid them. Juice isn't worth the squeeze.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Changes = let guys on expiring contracts go.

And new players on the roster thanks to free agency and the draft

 

[End of Line]

That is very true, however, doesn't change the fact he was the best player in that draft by a fair margin. He has the same problems that Pickens has, and to a lesser extent Jones has. Enough UGA guys have almost been a problem where I'd start to avoid them. Juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Zero accountability in the UGA program.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Fantastic, our only two coaches worth a damn - Grady Brown and Aaron Curry are gone.

Curry not surprised they have shazier to take over on staff. Brown none of the dbs developed under Brown

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Zero accountability in the UGA program.

Sadly, that is the recipe to win in today's college football. Urban Meyer's teams always had problem players. Christ, he had players who murdered people. But, those players lead to wins.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

 

[ChaosAgent]

I can see a case for ARod. He might create a big enough mess to create change.

I kinda like this angle. Rodgers could bottom us out like Russ or Fields never could

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Raise your hand if you are surprised that he won 3.

Well 2 of the wins came against AJ McCarron who had started a whopping 3 games in his career and Matt Moore who had started an astounding 3 games over the five previous season.

So a real murder’s row of QBs Tomlin stared down for the Ws.

Imagine if the Tomlin apologists actually dug into the last 15 years of Tomlin’s playoff resume and had to explain away that his only legit win in that time was agt Alex Smith.

 

[End of Line]

Sadly, that is the recipe to win in today's college football. Urban Meyer's teams always had problem players. Christ, he had players who murdered people. But, those players lead to wins.

I was one of the few that was happy when he left Ohio St.

Regarding UGA, they have a serious accountability problem that’s just getting worse and worse

 

[Peat]

I kinda like this angle. Rodgers could bottom us out like Russ or Fields never could

I'm dubious as so far this team has been QB proof bar Trubisky. But I think with the defensive line ageing out and ARod's ability to bring the drama, maybe it would happen.

 

[OnMyOwn]

Rodgers could create such turmoil it would be entertaining to watch.

I just wanna sign fields and roll with it, tbh.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Rodgers could create such turmoil it would be entertaining to watch.

I just wanna sign fields and roll with it, tbh.

 

[Pens x]

Arod and Pickens on the same team? Imagine how toxic that could be.

Let’s do it

 

[MrBrightside]

Curry not surprised they have shazier to take over on staff. Brown none of the dbs developed under Brown

And the OL hasn't developed under Meyer yet here we are. You really don't have to defend EVERYTHING that Tomlin does. Your fealty is noted by all. HIs refusal to hire quality assistants is no longer a secret.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

And the OL hasn't developed under Meyer yet here we are. You really don't have to defend EVERYTHING that Tomlin does. Your fealty is noted by all. HIs refusal to hire quality assistants is no longer a secret.

Nothing to defend if Tomlin couldn’t fire Canada Art wasn’t going to fire Meyer

 

[JTG]

I think if we take Kyle McCord I'll be very, very happy. I didn't watch a ton of Syracuse, but he is a supremely talented individual. If he ran a 4.6 he'd be in a top 10 discussion, I think. If he's there in the 4th round, I absolutely take him. 3rd round, I very seriously consider. Underrated prospect.

 

[JTG]

Zero accountability in the UGA program.

It's evident, honestly. And I think this is where these big programs are going to start to fall. They just let these guys do whatever they want so they stay there and play football, but they turn out horrible professionals. Going to college is about getting to the pros - if you're a f***-up of a kid and you don't want to get yourself straight, go to UGA.

With Army and Navy being successful this year, I almost want the service to make it more beneficial for better players be willing to go to service academies again. I'm just so tired of seeing the same teams every year, and these teams pump out nothing but immature, entitled babies.

 

[WickedWrister]

Stafford would probably be 1A for me if he became available and the price wasn't insane. That's if we're picking the "try and compete again" lane. Although if the Rams decide to part ways with him, that would give me some caution as I trust McVay and co. have a good read on how much he has left in the tank. I've seen some rumors about a Stafford+Kupp trade package but I don't know how feasible that is.

1B is sign Fields if Stafford isn't interested or made available by the Rams.

Not totally opposed to Rodgers, I actually think you could make the argument that him being another year removed from the achilles injury has him more comfortable with his own body/limitations and would be in line for a rebound. I'm just not betting on it.

I'm cool with taking a dice roll on McCord on day 3 even if we sign one of the aforementioned veteran QB's. We need to be taking multiple swings at the position.

 

[End of Line]

It's evident, honestly. And I think this is where these big programs are going to start to fall. They just let these guys do whatever they want so they stay there and play football, but they turn out horrible professionals. Going to college is about getting to the pros - if you're a f***-up of a kid and you don't want to get yourself straight, go to UGA.

With Army and Navy being successful this year, I almost want the service to make it more beneficial for better players be willing to go to service academies again. I'm just so tired of seeing the same teams every year.

Ik outside of Columbus the Buckeyes were getting shit on for being religious but it worked out for them in the end.

 

[End of Line]

I think if we take Kyle McCord I'll be very, very happy. I didn't watch a ton of Syracuse, but he is a supremely talented individual. If he ran a 4.6 he'd be in a top 10 discussion, I think. If he's there in the 4th round, I absolutely take him. 3rd round, I very seriously consider. Underrated prospect.

I can’t with McCord man lol. He improved a bit but that has to do with the quality of competition drop off from the Big Ten to ACC. McCord has an awful tendency of throwing off his back leg way too much. And this year he threw three pick 6 sixes (5 total picks) against Pitt of all teams. @ColePens would agree with me.

This years crop of qb’s is just truly awful as a whole.

 

[Shockmaster]

I’ve never been a fan of booing players or coaches.

However, Tomlin is now reaching playoff failures that have become historic - and I’m no longer talking Steelers history, I mean NFL history.

- He’s literally one more one and done playoff loss from having the all-time mark and being tied with Marty at 9.

This is the one that really blows me away.

That’s one of those Gretzky like records I never thought any coach would ever be bad enough to sniff when MS achieved it.

- Tomlin is also now in the top ten ALL TIME for playoff losses in NFL history.

- He’s also moved into the top three for longest streaks (with one team) in NFL history without a playoff win.

- He’s an astonishing 3-10 in his last 13 playoff games - 3-10!

AR2 and the Tomlin nut huggers have completely lost all sense of reality and are in complete denial about what’s happening here.

Not to mention in his 18 seasons as head coach, he's only won playoff games in FOUR of them.

 

[wheelz87]

I can’t with McCord man lol. He improved a bit but that has to do with the quality of competition drop off from the Big Ten to ACC. McCord has an awful tendency of throwing off his back leg way too much. And this year he threw three pick 6 sixes (5 total picks) against Pitt of all teams. @ColePens would agree with me.

This years crop of qb’s is just truly awful as a whole.

Second that. Dude wanted a guarantee to be QB1 and then ran. Thank god too - and yes it worked for both parties. He thew the ball 50+ times a game no wonder he shattered records against inferior competition. Kid can't move. And I don't see any of the intangibles with him.

 

[JTG]

Arod and Pickens on the same team? Imagine how toxic that could be.

Let’s do it

It's sad we are here now.

Stafford would probably be 1A for me if he became available and the price wasn't insane. That's if we're picking the "try and compete again" lane. Although if the Rams decide to part ways with him, that would give me some caution as I trust McVay and co. have a good read on how much he has left in the tank. I've seen some rumors about a Stafford+Kupp trade package but I don't know how feasible that is.

1B is sign Fields if Stafford isn't interested or made available by the Rams.

Not totally opposed to Rodgers, I actually think you could make the argument that him being another year removed from the achilles injury has him more comfortable with his own body/limitations and would be in line for a rebound. I'm just not betting on it.

I'm cool with taking a dice roll on McCord on day 3 even if we sign one of the aforementioned veteran QB's. We need to be taking multiple swings at the position.

Stafford would be fun here, especially if they can get an electric RB. I really want Fields to get his shot though. I have never been a massive believer of the guy, but everything I thought this dude needed in college to be really good has happened. If Fields shits the bed this year, he is nothing more than a backup.

Ik outside of Columbus the Buckeyes were getting shit on for being religious but it worked out for them in the end.

Yeah so was Notre Dame. I just think having a more structure team, especially for kids, is the way to do it. Young men, especially coming from environments that are typically tumultuous, crave that.

I'm just not a fan of Day at all, but the program has settled wayyyy down since he has taken over.

I can’t with McCord man lol. He improved a bit but that has to do with the quality of competition drop off from the Big Ten to ACC. McCord has an awful tendency of throwing off his back leg way too much. And this year he threw three pick 6 sixes (5 total picks) against Pitt of all teams. @ColePens would agree with me.

This years crop of qb’s is just truly awful as a whole.

This crop is atrocious (which is why I'm literally watch Kyle f***ing McCord). The Pitt game was just the wheels absolutely coming off. He bounced back. He's very smart - I think that's what I like about him. I think he will be a better pro than college QB because pro's think the game on a higher level.

McCord is 1000% a pro QB in my eyes and if he does suck as a starter, he's PERFECT as a #2. Josh Dobbs 2.0. I draft him.

 

[pistolpete11]

Stafford would probably be 1A for me if he became available and the price wasn't insane. That's if we're picking the "try and compete again" lane. Although if the Rams decide to part ways with him, that would give me some caution as I trust McVay and co. have a good read on how much he has left in the tank. I've seen some rumors about a Stafford+Kupp trade package but I don't know how feasible that is.

At first I was going to say there's no way the Rams are actually going to move on from Stafford. They have a solid team that was a win away from the Super Bowl and they aren't going to find a better QB. But if they do get rid of him, it's a "let's suck in 2025 and then let McVay pick his QB in the draft in 2026" type of move. Pretty smart if you ask me, so Stafford-Kupp to Pittsburgh, confirmed.