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[Pacific Canuck]

I suspect that boeser is traded at the draft rather than by the trade deadline. If he is traded at all.

More teams will have cap, plus if boeser has another good playoffs it should increase his value.

 

[Nucker101]

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This is all I think of everytime guardian posts a novel

Wonder if the canucks would trade Boeser for assets, then acquire Lindholm from Boston with assets coming from Boston (2026 2nd?). That short term solves a winger replacement and gives flexibility at C.

Spend those assets this/next year to acquire youth.

I'm not sure I'd take Lindholm even if the Bruins attached a pick with him

 

[Diamonddog01]

Options for a 2nd line C and to a lesser extent a top 6 winger are very limited but management has surprised me several times so we'll see how things pan out. Right now it's looking like Norris is the most realistic.

 

[racerjoe]

I suspect that boeser is traded at the draft rather than by the trade deadline. If he is traded at all.

More teams will have cap, plus if boeser has another good playoffs it should increase his value.

He’s a UFA…his value will be near nothing at the draft. Teams will maybe give a mid round draft pick at most to skip the que and sign him.

If you are trading him it’s the deadline or not at all.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

He’s a UFA…his value will be near nothing at the draft. Teams will maybe give a mid round draft pick at most to skip the que and sign him.

If you are trading him it’s the deadline or not at all.

I agree. I hope we are able to massage a nice number out of it because it's hard to see a way we can subtract more from the locker room without making serious waves for this team's fate this season. This is the point I believe where you actually should be selling off firsts. I really feel in my bones we could make a run here. We almost beat the Oilers with f***ing Silovs.

 

[604]

I agree. I hope we are able to massage a nice number out of it because it's hard to see a way we can subtract more from the locker room without making serious waves for this team's fate this season. This is the point I believe where you actually should be selling off firsts. I really feel in my bones we could make a run here. We almost beat the Oilers with f***ing Silovs.

Need to re-sign Boeser. We’d be looking for another one of him if we lost him.

Agree that we should be selling our 1st and 2nd and a prospect…but what can we get that moves the needle up front?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Need to re-sign Boeser. We’d be looking for another one of him if we lost him.

Agree that we should be selling our 1st and 2nd and a prospect…but what can we get that moves the needle up front?

We'd be having to pair a prospect asset that everyone would hate to see leave. Lekkerimaki has a ton of value, but does it go up or down? I don't know. I was a big fan of his, I had him earmarked to replace Boeser but I think Boeser should step into being the emotional leader of the team and earn his 'A' so to speak. Everyone on the team seems to like him and he seems genuinely happy in Vancouver. You keep that guy, for sure.

 

[David71]

can mccaan play center though... he does have speed and lethal shot to boot. could help with the transition game moving forward. out boeser to somewhere. in mccaan+someone else as well.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

can mccaan play center though... he does have speed and lethal shot to boot. could help with the transition game moving forward. out boeser to somewhere. in mccaan+someone else as well.

I would do a literal spit take if we re-acquired McCann. Life sure is funny, my brother.

 

[David71]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2106166-jared-mccann-prospect-profile-for-vancouver-canucks-1st-round-pick

 

[WTG]

I'd be so happy if they trade for McCann, I still have his rookie jersey because I was sure he'd hit it big. Little did I know he would, just not with the Canucks.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I know Petey off the block and all but I wanna build a contender with the best D core in the league.

Bo Horvat, Noah Dobson and Future Considerations
For
Elias Pettersson and Nils Hoglander

- a little early for the T.Linden arc but Bo gives us a quality faceoff winning top 6 centerman for the forseeable future.

Joel Armia, Christian Dvorak, David Reinbacher and Future Considerations
For
Noah Dobson

- after 3 years of calling around for defenseman we now we have dpetey, kudryatsev, mynio, willander and reinbacher in the pipeline and refuse to include them in any and all trade proposals.

Debrusk - Horvat - Armia
Oconnor - Chytil - Boeser
Joshua - Dvorak - Garland
Suter - Blueger - Sherwood

Hughes - Hronek
Pettersson - Myers
Pettersson - Willander

Lankinen, Demko

Resign Boeser 8 x7
Resign Oconnor 3 x3
Resign Suter 3 x3
Resign Lankinen 5 x4

Offseason, dont sign anyone new. Instead cash in those two FC's above.

Jp Pageau retained to 3,000,000 for a 7th

Josh Anderson retained to 2,750,000 for a 7th

Let Dvorak and Armia walk. Pageau and Anderson take their spots.

Final trade becomes;

Pettersson, Hoglander, 7th, 7th
For
Horvat, Anderson, Pageau, Reinbacher

Plus the services of Armia and Dvorak for a playoff run.

Seems like not enough for a 100 point centerman and a former 24 goal man but fills out the 12 man forward group nicely without needing to rush Lekkerimaki while stashing Reinbacher away on D.

Just a team of double digit goal scorers just roll the forwards 1-2-3-4 willie D style.

Debrusk - Horvat - Anderson
Oconnor - Chytil - Boeser
Joshua - Pageau - Garland
Suter - Blueger - Sherwood

x Raty, Lekkerimaki

 

[604]

We'd be having to pair a prospect asset that everyone would hate to see leave. Lekkerimaki has a ton of value, but does it go up or down? I don't know. I was a big fan of his, I had him earmarked to replace Boeser but I think Boeser should step into being the emotional leader of the team and earn his 'A' so to speak. Everyone on the team seems to like him and he seems genuinely happy in Vancouver. You keep that guy, for sure.

Fine, let’s keep Lekk. What does a 1st + 2nd and a ton of cap space buy us?

I think it buys us: Kotkaniemi, Zegras, and maybe Cozens or Crouse.

UFA guys coming up, you could get Schenn, Marchand, or Nelson.

If for some reason teams decide to save cap, and we upgrade the package, maybe you end up with Forsberg, Barzal, or Kyrou.

I think one edge we have is that we have cap space this year to grab someone available.

 

[bossram]

I suspect that boeser is traded at the draft rather than by the trade deadline. If he is traded at all.

More teams will have cap, plus if boeser has another good playoffs it should increase his value.

He's a pending UFA.

No, he absolutely will not have more value at the draft. This makes no sense.

 

[andora]

Read it with alchohol and it makes more sense.

There is a joke here somewhere about waking up the next morning and being ashamed

 

[ChilliBilly]

Need to re-sign Boeser. We’d be looking for another one of him if we lost him.

Agree that we should be selling our 1st and 2nd and a prospect…but what can we get that moves the needle up front?

Sorry but I hate this attitude. Smart teams keep their draft picks and prospects ... they know they will be playing hockey in 5 - 6 years. We are fighting for a playoff spot, not cruising into the playoffs. I know Aquaman wants playoff revenue, But I want to remain a fan for years. Heck, I have put 55 years in so far, I want to ride this team into my 80's.

TBL traded JTM even when they were headed to win 2 Cups, and appear in 3 finals in a row. (Admittedly the Bolts have had a very strange mgmt history).

When the Canucks trade for 1st round picks, they shortly trade them. However one of the most successful trades in history got us some twins.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

This is all I think of everytime guardian posts a novel


I'm not sure I'd take Lindholm even if the Bruins attached a pick with him

Yep. Easy to tell who doesn't watch other team's games.

Lindholm is awful and used every bit of his tank to do okay in the playoffs for us. Do not want.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Sorry but I hate this attitude. Smart teams keep their draft picks and prospects ... they know they will be playing hockey in 5 - 6 years. We are fighting for a playoff spot, not cruising into the playoffs. I know Aquaman wants playoff revenue, But I want to remain a fan for years. Heck, I have put 55 years in so far, I want to ride this team into my 80's.

TBL traded JTM even when they were headed to win 2 Cups, and appear in 3 finals in a row. (Admittedly the Bolts have had a very strange mgmt history).

When the Canucks trade for 1st round picks, they shortly trade them. However one of the most successful trades in history got us some twins.

What attitude ? Keeping a guy in a position we need ? I get trading him if we have a conversation and he prices himself out, or say he wants to test the market, but trading Boeser because... .... ? Smart teams keep their top scorers, especially when their other top scorers were just traded and another is in a season long drought.

you also cite JT Miller being traded... He was 7th in team scoring for Tampa that year. Brock is currently 2nd. Tampa was also first in the league in scoring that season. I can't remember exactly but I think the canucks are around 20th?

We get a first round pick and a lesser player then hope the 1st round pick turns into a scoring top six player (Boeser)

If Boeser is willing to re-sign for a fair price, you do it. Otherwise, I'm getting flashes of this:

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Any rumour back in the day about him is bullshit to me, I cant believe how many times I heard his misquote "It is what it is" [how does it feel being ranked top 15 and falling to 25?] people saying he hated Vancouver, or f***ing Matt Bartkowski's mom calling him a little shit. Like f*** off, he had no business being in the NHL that year even though he was very good, it was all Benning's drama

It's not though. I routinely met all the Canucks at private events through my work around the time. McCann comes off as arrogant and stand off ish. Whether he hated van or not, i couldn't tell you, but he acted like he hated most things kinda.

EDIT : this doesn't mean i think he's a bad teammate, or even a bad guy. he just was stand off-ish in a room full of ppl meeting and greeting. could it have been a young person in a situation he didn't know how to handle, or someone that's a dick? idk

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

I agree. I hope we are able to massage a nice number out of it because it's hard to see a way we can subtract more from the locker room without making serious waves for this team's fate this season. This is the point I believe where you actually should be selling off firsts. I really feel in my bones we could make a run here. We almost beat the Oilers with f***ing Silovs.

The strategy for any team is, and almost always will be : Make the playoffs and anything can happen

It's fan's delusions to think of the "we aren't going to win the cup, so we should trade away for the future even though we're in a playoff spot" is a viable strategy.

That said, I would draw the line at trading all premium assets: 1sts, developing prospects, etc.

 

[Josepho]

Basically no teams close to the playoffs (especially on the inside) sell off their pending UFAs for picks. It's not necessarily a "get in and anything could happen" thing, it's a "get in, build positive momentum for the future, make a shit ton of money, and improve your brand" thing. There's not a chance in hell a team like Ottawa or Columbus is going to sell.

I think we probably should trade Boeser, but we need to be using whatever we get for him to acquire someone that's under term, like a smaller version of the Rantanen trade.

Also, we aren't even close to the worst prospect pool in the league. With the emergence of EP2 we are probably in the upper half of the league.

 

[theguardianII]

Lots of NOW posters.
For those be prepared to trade away futures.
Any team trading away a good NHLer will want something in return, futures. Picks, Prospects or very young players.

Few teams will trade away a good term player for a rental if any at all. And trading futures for an expiring contract twists management's arm behind their back because they have to make that trade look good. Can't keep trading away AAA prospects, 1rst and more for rentals. That is probably why they signed MP so fast, because they traded away a 1rst that could be really significant in 2026 if not this year.

Picks and prospects will not help a team today and likely would need a year or more to become impact players.
This team isn't Vegas with a rotating core of solid veterans.

This accumulation of cap space does seem to point to trading away the farm for rentals for this season of playoffs, certainly no more than 2 years though.

And the cap increase is for all teams but the Canucks have already spent 4.75 mil of that so they have a little less.

Brock with Horvat or Miller is a fit so two NY teams might be interested. Both are battling for a playoff spot and within a few points of each other and the WC spot. Incentive. Rivalry.

 

[ManVanFan]

Lots of NOW posters.
For those be prepared to trade away futures.
Any team trading away a good NHLer will want something in return, futures. Picks, Prospects or very young players.

Few teams will trade away a good term player for a rental if any at all. And trading futures for an expiring contract twists management's arm behind their back because they have to make that trade look good. Can't keep trading away AAA prospects, 1rst and more for rentals. That is probably why they signed MP so fast, because they traded away a 1rst that could be really significant in 2026 if not this year.

Picks and prospects will not help a team today and likely would need a year or more to become impact players.
This team isn't Vegas with a rotating core of solid veterans.

This accumulation of cap space does seem to point to trading away the farm for rentals for this season of playoffs, certainly no more than 2 years though.

And the cap increase is for all teams but the Canucks have already spent 4.75 mil of that so they have a little less.

Brock with Horvat or Miller is a fit so two NY teams might be interested. Both are battling for a playoff spot and within a few points of each other and the WC spot. Incentive. Rivalry.

It probably would have been a nice season to sell off parts to all the teams looking for a playoff spot in the East. I just hope Van doesn't pay to add to try and win a round this year. It's just not there year.

 

[theguardianII]

It probably would have been a nice season to sell off parts to all the teams looking for a playoff spot in the East. I just hope Van doesn't pay to add to try and win a round this year. It's just not there year.

You have heard that narrow minded Allvin, "fans around here deserve a playoff". That is all he is going for especially with teams rebuilding or retooling in the conference and division.

Anaheim and San Jose are still either rebuilding or struggling to come out of a rebuild too fast.
That is two teams within the division less to compete then there is Calgary who most thought would be in no way where they are.
Just those out would have left any team a little better to compete with LA, Edmonton and Vegas so the thought was a 4 team race with Seattle lurking around between.
It was assumed the Canucks would be in 4th and likely in the WC2 spot easily by doing almost nothing.

All the turmoil and bad play and look where they are. Is it they are that good or the division is that bad?

Allvin will sell out anything to make the playoffs because he knows he won't be here in 4/5 years so he has to build up his resume to show he can get teams into the show, they don't need to be good once there but it does look good on the resume.

That is why I really hope Rutherford takes over for two years and uses the other 3 GM's for day to day operations. He isn't working to pad his resume. If he has two bad years and then the team goes on to be a real contender year after year then he has a legacy. Much like Burke will always be remembered for the Sedin draft year. 3 hours of really hard work and a life time of a reputation.

 

[StickShift]

It probably would have been a nice season to sell off parts to all the teams looking for a playoff spot in the East. I just hope Van doesn't pay to add to try and win a round this year. It's just not there year.

I want to see how the next few weeks go. There is potential for them to get red hot and ride some good vibes into the playoffs.

Good vibes and a mid-season recovery has taken teams like STL and LA all the way before. I think any team with Hughes has a shot to win a series too.