OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: No 3peat for the Swifts

[PensandCaps]

Sure or the other back was hurt and fumbles at a much higher rate than the 1st round pick. The other rb doesn’t really do anything special but is a fine change of pace rb.


Interesting and the jets are taking our cast offs

Warren gets more yards per carry, by alot.

Cool, Najee's only good skill was not fumbling. Wow. Great use of a 1st. 3.9 yard average in his Steelers career. He sucked. Had a handful of good games over 4 years. Glad he's gone, someone well more deserving will get those touches. Like getting rid of Johnson who was hogging up all the Targets, addition by subtraction.

But 1,000 yards!!

 

[ChaosAgent]

Thank goodness. Now we can actually play the much better back. Only reason Warren wasn't the starter is because they sunk a 1st into najee and didn't want to admit failure with that pick.

But the OL is so bad!

Yeah cause they blew a 1st on a 3rd round RB so there is no one to block for said 3rd round RB

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Warren gets more yards per carry, by alot.

Cool, Najee's only good skill was not fumbling. Wow. Great use of a 1st. 3.9 yard average in his Steelers career. He sucked. Had a handful of good games over 4 years. Glad he's gone, someone well more deserving will get those touches. Like getting rid of Johnson who was hogging up all the Targets, addition by subtraction.

But 1,000 yards!!

Warren has 1 game in his entire career with 15 carries and his numbers go down when he gets over 10.

 

[PensandCaps]

But the OL is so bad!

Yeah cause they blew a 1st on a 3rd round RB so there is no one to block for said 3rd round RB

Also because Harris had no vision, missed open holes, would run into traffic and loved trying to go to the outside all the f***ing time when he is slow as hell. But he hurdled a few dudes for 1 extra yard, so.

So many games where he was getting less than 3.5 YPA. It's actually amazing how bad he was.

Warren has 1 game in his entire career with 15 carries and his numbers go down when he gets over 10.

4.8 YPA on 370 carries in his career. That's a season+ of carries. Harris has never came close to that in a year.

When we needed a spark or a big time play, it was always Warren. Never Najee.

And that carry stat is my point. The staff is willingly playing a worse guy because of draft position. Warren was obviously much much better.

But, we can't have our 1st round back being the backup. Harris was putting up numbers that washed up backs in their 30s put up and never hear from again. He's going to be terrible in LA. Just like he was here.

 

[Peat]

That Pickett trade is a super interesting wrinkle to the "does Sanders fall to the Steelers?" discussion. Browns are definitely out on a QB now.

Barring a trade up I think Cam Ward to the Titans at 1. I don't think Pickett take the Browns out of contention for Sanders but there are better players available. Right now I'd guess Sanders to the Giants at 3 if they can't get Rodgers. They seem desperate.

Heming and hawing on this.

On the one hand, Atlanta taking Penix is a good reason to push back on the idea they're definitely out, as people thought the Falcons were definitely out and absolutely weren't.

But the Falcons couldn't control getting a QB when they signed Cousins.

The Browns can. If they think Ward and Sanders are worth taking, they can get a QB.

I think you can create a convincing narrative that the Browns are thinking of drafting a franchise QB and want a better back-up than DTR for that (who they only thought of as a 3rd choice last season anyway). Pickett doesn't have a ton of NFL experience to pass on, but he's been through some real highs and lows in his time and knows the AFC North as well as any QB they could acquire. He knows what the pressure of being a 1st rounder is like, he knows what it's like for it to be going bad, and he knows what the work habits of a SB champion QB look like. I don't think anyone's complained about his work ethic, he'll provide a good example there, and he can be a better stop-gap buffer between a guy and starting than DTR. He's also very cheap this year which helps the Browns.

And... I don't really have a counter to that. Sure, Pickett as a stop-gap scratch-off player makes a bunch of sense also, but I just can't think of an argument that the Browns absolutely wouldn't take a QB. Trading for Pickett is not much different than signing Brissett or Andy Dalton or any other number of guys who've arrived to help a QB settle in; little less veteran and that's it really.

The real question is whether the Browns think Sanders is legit (and whether the Sanders camp would throw a strop over Cleveland) compared to their pick of Carter and Hunter.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Interesting and the jets are taking our cast offs

You honestly need to visit reality for just a little while.

Khan and AR2 said signing back one of Wilson or Fields was their plan, with Khan going so far as to say it would be “ideal”.

The Steelers then preferred Fields, but he didn’t trust Tomlin so he told them to f*** off and left.

Now a guy who got cut… let’s just pick a random guy like Rodgers as an example, that’s known as a castoff.

Understand how this works now?

 

[OnMyOwn]

Florio is suggesting that Rodger's deal will be 2 years and $90 million total, with $40 million guaranteed. I'd legitimately vomit if they gave him that deal.

Who cares? Again, they need to draft their guy either this year or next. Pay whoever, whatever, right now. I was for fields but he didn’t want to be here.

 

[MrBrightside]

Did Slay ever get announced or are we still 0-for?

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Did Slay ever get announced or are we still 0-for?

Slay and Rodgers aren’t technically free agents both weren’t officially cut yet

 

[xlm34]

Re: the comp picks, a team can only get up to a maximum of 4 in one year. It's a strict limit of 32 total picks that are awarded every year across the league. And it's still very much a fluid situation based on who else we sign. There's a whole formula with play time, net free agency loss, awards, etc... but to even qualify we have to end up with more qualifying FA lost than gained in this particular free agent period.

This part isn’t gonna be a problem. The well is drying up pretty quickly for guys the Steelers can sign that can qualify. The most I can see is maaaybe 2?

 

[bigdaddyk88]

You honestly need to visit reality for just a little while.

Khan and AR2 said signing back one of Wilson or Fields was their plan, with Khan going so far as to say it would be “ideal”.

The Steelers then preferred Fields, but he didn’t trust Tomlin so he told them to f*** off and left.

Now a guy who got cut… let’s just pick a random guy like Rodgers as an example, that’s known as a castoff.

Understand how this works now?

The Steelers offered a contract to a player said player took more money elsewhere the more you know.
I am not losing sleep over a guy who had 10 tds in 6 games more starts with under 220 yards combined for us. From the very beginning every available bridge qb were all the same to me

This part isn’t gonna be a problem. The well is drying up pretty quickly for guys the Steelers can sign that can qualify. The most I can see is maaaybe 2?

Depends on the position DL is still deep enough in free agency cb is dying pass rushers are deep in free agency.

 

[pistolpete11]

IF they are treating FA as a way to set themselves up for the 2026 draft, I applaud them for finally having a long term vision. I'm just worried that is cope.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

I would have tried to keep Roberts.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I would have tried to keep Roberts.

If Harrison can be the 4th olb and play st plus fill the roberts role i understand why they went younger.

 

[MrBrightside]

Slay and Rodgers aren’t technically free agents both weren’t officially cut yet

A lot of guys in that situation have been announced.

 

[Pens x]

I cant wait to see what dumb **** Mr. Omar Clean does today.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

A lot of guys in that situation have been announced.

Even guys who were post june cuts interesting

 

[bigdaddyk88]

The plan seems to be maintaining picks and cap space for 26 players the comp game by getting guys who were cut to fill in holes build the supporting cast out on offense. Give the o line another year to develop and grow so they can go big in the draft in Pittsburgh in 26. Throwing to DK GP Muth Ca3 is a good opportunity for the future rookie.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

They still have a shit ton of cap space. A Watt extension would probably result in even more for this year. They kind of have to use it eventually because of the cap floor rules, but there don’t seem to be a ton of enticing players to use it on.



This kind of make some sense. Metcalf doesn’t count, Rodgers wouldn’t count, and Slay doesn’t count.

Again, it was more about the draft capital (2nd rounder) moreso the contract $$.

I’ll wait to see how everything plays out before fully judging, but I’m not really seeing the plan for this cap space. Make sure you get comp picks and roll space over to next year? Dunno.

So far they’ve lost several. The players they are bringing in are via trade or cuts. That means they are winning the comp pick formula. If they bring in DK and Lsay those are via trade. Rodgers was a cut, so they don’t affect the formula.

Dan Moore = 3rd round Comp
Fields = 4th round comp
Donte Jackson = 6th or 7th round comp
Najee Harris = 6th round comp
James Daniels = 6th round comp
Russ should be in the 5th or 6th round range.

Mike Williams and Cam Sutton barring a dumb contract probably won’t bring anything back.

Regardless, if they play this smartly (doubtful) they could have something like an extra 3, 4, 5, and 6 next year to trade up for a QB at the draft held in Pittsburgh.

 

[The Old Master]

Who cares? Again, they need to draft their guy either this year or next. Pay whoever, whatever, right now. I was for fields but he didn’t want to be here.

yeah, seems like they could just wait and pick up a castoff from training camp.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Anyone calculate how long it would take to get from Pittsburgh to LA 3 yards at a time?

I'm going to miss seeing those 3-5 yard runs that should have been 10-15 with a back that had just a bit more speed. IMO, nothing held this offense back more than Najee. His lack of pace to the edge combined with the Jurassic playcalling made it so so easy for defenses.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

The Steelers offered a contract to a player said player took more money elsewhere the more you know.
I am not losing sleep over a guy who had 10 tds in 6 games more starts with under 220 yards combined for us. From the very beginning every available bridge qb were all the same to me


Depends on the position DL is still deep enough in free agency cb is dying pass rushers are deep in free agency.

Your willful ignorance is something to behold, I’ll give you that.

If you think this is about losing Fields and don’t see the actual major big picture issues here, not my problem.

I’m not going to play along though, sorry.

You are pretty clearly stuck in the denial stage of grief.

 

[Snooki Stackhouse]

Steelers are going to be absolutely loaded with comp picks next year, so that's one positive.

Anyone calculate how long it would take to get from Pittsburgh to LA 3 yards at a time?

Heinz field to SoFi stadium is about 2400 miles, which equates to 4.25mm yards.

At Naj's lumbering 3.9 yards per play, this would be 1.1mm plays.

At 40 seconds per play, ignoring stoppages or game requirements, this is 44mm seconds or 12,119 hours for Naj to slowly make his way to LA.

 

[Andy99]

1. Keep the failed coach, check
2. Mangle the development of young players on the O line, check
3. Unable to draft or develop any QB option, check
4. Mediocre draft results, check
5. Inability to develop a long term strategy for success in modern day football, check
6. Ownership that is timid, gets poor marks from players, check

Steelers are on a roll…love the 4th through 6th round comp pick strategy for next year…

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Love going after the same QBs as perennial stable orgs like… the Jets, Titans and Giants

Guess that’s where we’re at lmao