GDT: The Pittsburgher Thread - Here we go!

[PensandCaps]

Anyone who whines about players not " abiding by their contracts" must love licking the boots of billionaires.

The people who DON'T abide by the contracts in the NFL are the owners who don't agree to fully guaranteed contracts, they are the snakes, not the players who can get cut at anytime and have the contract ripped up.

 

[Shockmaster]

Anyone who whines about players not " abiding by their contracts" must love licking the boots of billionaires.

The people who DON'T abide by the contracts in the NFL are the owners who don't agree to fully guaranteed contracts, they are the snakes, not the players who can get cut at anytime and have the contract ripped up.

The CBA says they don't have to. Each time CBA negotiations come up, the NFLPA never fights for guaranteed contracts. Blame the piss poor union the players have, not the owners.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

Anyone who whines about players not " abiding by their contracts" must love licking the boots of billionaires.

The people who DON'T abide by the contracts in the NFL are the owners who don't agree to fully guaranteed contracts, they are the snakes, not the players who can get cut at anytime and have the contract ripped up.

I’m for the players to the point of they should be afforded every right they negotiated for under their CBA. Regardless of sport. But if they agreed to it, in this case, with the issue of guaranteed contracts. Then that’s their fault for not pressuring their players union to fight for that. If they want that then they should negotiate that in whatever give and take they need to when the CBA expires. And I have players I love in all sports I follow. But I’m always cheering for the logo on the front more than the name on the back. I just want the team to win, no matter who is on the field. That’s all I care about.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The CBA says they don't have to. Each time CBA negotiations come up, the NFLPA never fights for guaranteed contracts. Blame the piss poor union the players have, not the owners.

Por que no los dos?

Owners are a bunch of greedy money grubbers while players are too concerned with other bullshit.

 

[wheelz87]

-brings back Ben
-brings back juju
-trades for schobert/corner

All for naught if JJ ain’t playing

 

[ImporterExporter]

"The reason I took less money"
-Ben

Riiiiiight.

These assholes are so full of themselves. 9 figures worth of earnings just in contract value over the last 2 decades and you think playing on anything other than a league minimum is "taking less"?

Players should STFU and play. Simple as that.

 

[The Old Master]

"The reason I took less money"
-Ben

Riiiiiight.

These assholes are so full of themselves. 9 figures worth of earnings just in contract value over the last 2 decades and you think playing on anything other than a league minimum is "taking less"?

Players should STFU and play. Simple as that.

there are a lot of people that are very free with other people's money. but when it comes to their own ......

 

[MrBrightside]

 

[xlm34]

All Najee wanted to do was show off his shoe collection. Could be anything but there’s someone talking about a contract in the background.

 

[SomeDude]

Anyone who whines about players not " abiding by their contracts" must love licking the boots of billionaires.

The people who DON'T abide by the contracts in the NFL are the owners who don't agree to fully guaranteed contracts, they are the snakes, not the players who can get cut at anytime and have the contract ripped up.

The fact they don't have guaranteed contracts when the league literally prints money is absurd and the fault of a weak and short-sighted union. They are/were too distracted with being allowed to smoke weed than to care about stuff like that, I guess.

Expecting anyone to feel sorry for someone threatening to not play when they are slated to make $10 million is laughable.

 

[ImporterExporter]

The fact they don't have guaranteed contracts when the league literally prints money is absurd and the fault of a weak and short-sighted union. They are/were too distracted with being allowed to smoke weed than to care about stuff like that, I guess.

Expecting anyone to feel sorry for someone threatening to not play when they are slated to make $10 million is laughable.

There are a billion people on this earth who don't even have access to potable drinking water.

I have zero time or energy for any athlete who complains (which is what a holdout amounts to) about a multi million dollar contract they agreed to and signed in the first damn place.

And I am 100% in the team's corner considering they are operating within parameters set forth by the current CBA and a team policy that dates back numerous HOF'ers who didn't get what Watt is after.

Trading Watt now for a couple of 1sts, 2nd and 3rd rounders over the next 2 drafts is the best long term action plan Colbert could take right now. It sets you up for YEARS and allows you to not bank on 2022 being THE draft you need a QB in.

It would slam the door in Ben's face. STFU. You don't make policy on anything beyond the field of play and another lame attempt at martyrdom by Ben is one too many for me. The I took less angle is laughable. Then again there is a solid chance this guy sexually assaulted multiple women over his life so I rest my case.

It would also be a major f*** you to Tomlin who's the kingpin in the last 10 years of utter incompetence.

I'd love to see Colbert burn the entire place to the ground before walking out but it won't happen. We'll get mediocrity this year and then a pretty rapid decent into the abyss after that.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

Im not in anyones corner.

There is a CBA so as long as both prties comply with the rules of that CBA, who cares. Watt has ther right to use his availability as leverage. The Steelers have the right to not offer what they dont have to.

 

[K Fleur]

There are a billion people on this earth who don't even have access to potable drinking water.

I have zero time or energy for any athlete who complains (which is what a holdout amounts to) about a multi million dollar contract they agreed to and signed in the first damn place.

And I am 100% in the team's corner considering they are operating within parameters set forth by the current CBA and a team policy that dates back numerous HOF'ers who didn't get what Watt is after.

Trading Watt now for a couple of 1sts, 2nd and 3rd rounders over the next 2 drafts is the best long term action plan Colbert could take right now. It sets you up for YEARS and allows you to not bank on 2022 being THE draft you need a QB in.

It would slam the door in Ben's face. STFU. You don't make policy on anything beyond the field of play and another lame attempt at martyrdom by Ben is one too many for me. The I took less angle is laughable. Then again there is a solid chance this guy sexually assaulted multiple women over his life so I rest my case.

It would also be a major f*** you to Tomlin who's the kingpin in the last 10 years of utter incompetence.

I'd love to see Colbert burn the entire place to the ground before walking out but it won't happen. We'll get mediocrity this year and then a pretty rapid decent into the abyss after that.

Ok Boomer

 

[bigdaddyk88]

There are a billion people on this earth who don't even have access to potable drinking water.

I have zero time or energy for any athlete who complains (which is what a holdout amounts to) about a multi million dollar contract they agreed to and signed in the first damn place.

And I am 100% in the team's corner considering they are operating within parameters set forth by the current CBA and a team policy that dates back numerous HOF'ers who didn't get what Watt is after.

Trading Watt now for a couple of 1sts, 2nd and 3rd rounders over the next 2 drafts is the best long term action plan Colbert could take right now. It sets you up for YEARS and allows you to not bank on 2022 being THE draft you need a QB in.

It would slam the door in Ben's face. STFU. You don't make policy on anything beyond the field of play and another lame attempt at martyrdom by Ben is one too many for me. The I took less angle is laughable. Then again there is a solid chance this guy sexually assaulted multiple women over his life so I rest my case.

It would also be a major f*** you to Tomlin who's the kingpin in the last 10 years of utter incompetence.

I'd love to see Colbert burn the entire place to the ground before walking out but it won't happen. We'll get mediocrity this year and then a pretty rapid decent into the abyss after that.

Or he plays on his 5th year option I offer him the non exclusive tag allowing him to sign elsewhere and take 2 1sts use the 2 1st to get Watson. Or use the picks if I like a younger QB some good ones this draft. If I want I can exclusive tag him next year than non exclusive in 23

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Harris looking for a place to call home.

 

[JTG]

The Steelers aren't headed for a "massive rebuild" in any form. There's no need for it and it's not how they operate. Yeah, they'll need a QB, but the young talent they have at the offensive skill positions and all over the defense is as good as any team, and this is hardly an aging team:



Hell, take Ben out of this and they're without a doubt one of the youngest non-disaster teams in the NFL.

Add in the fact they will be in great shape with the cap next year, the last thing this team is going to do is dump veterans to rebuild.

Interesting chart. Houston is going to have 3 of the next 5 first overalls. And they cannot even flip their best asset for anything of worth. What a dumpster fire.

 

[Hullois]

Playing games with your best player when season starts in three days just isn't good any way you look at it.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

Playing games with your best player when season starts in three days just isn't good any way you look at it.

playing games, really.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

There are a billion people on this earth who don't even have access to potable drinking water.

I have zero time or energy for any athlete who complains (which is what a holdout amounts to) about a multi million dollar contract they agreed to and signed in the first damn place.

And I am 100% in the team's corner considering they are operating within parameters set forth by the current CBA and a team policy that dates back numerous HOF'ers who didn't get what Watt is after.

Trading Watt now for a couple of 1sts, 2nd and 3rd rounders over the next 2 drafts is the best long term action plan Colbert could take right now. It sets you up for YEARS and allows you to not bank on 2022 being THE draft you need a QB in.

It would slam the door in Ben's face. STFU. You don't make policy on anything beyond the field of play and another lame attempt at martyrdom by Ben is one too many for me. The I took less angle is laughable. Then again there is a solid chance this guy sexually assaulted multiple women over his life so I rest my case.

It would also be a major f*** you to Tomlin who's the kingpin in the last 10 years of utter incompetence.

I'd love to see Colbert burn the entire place to the ground before walking out but it won't happen. We'll get mediocrity this year and then a pretty rapid decent into the abyss after that.

The owners can cancel a players contract whenever they wish (and do so with great frequency) so why should players honor their contracts?

NFL players almost all end up with CTE and busted up bodies, so I’m pretty much in their corner to extract every dime they can from the owners.

The owners get fat off their human meat market and pretend to care about the players health (Hey let’s add another game! We care about their well being though!)

So while this is millionaires pitted agt billionaires and it’s a small matter up against the illls of the world, I’ll always root for the players to max out their value.

 

[The Old Master]

The owners can cancel a players contract whenever they wish (and do so with great frequency) so why should players honor their contracts?

NFL players almost all end up with CTE and busted up bodies, so I’m pretty much in their corner to extract every dime they can from the owners.

The owners get fat off their human meat market and pretend to care about the players health (Hey let’s add another game! We care about their well being though!)

So while this is millionaires pitted agt billionaires and it’s a small matter up against the illls of the world, I’ll always root for the players to max out their value.

they can only do what the agreement lets them. and while i'm not against a player getting the max he can, he still needs to abide by the rules too.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

The owners can cancel a players contract whenever they wish (and do so with great frequency) so why should players honor their contracts?

NFL players almost all end up with CTE and busted up bodies, so I’m pretty much in their corner to extract every dime they can from the owners.

The owners get fat off their human meat market and pretend to care about the players health (Hey let’s add another game! We care about their well being though!)

So while this is millionaires pitted agt billionaires and it’s a small matter up against the illls of the world, I’ll always root for the players to max out their value.

Negotiate a better CBA. Hold arguably the worst Players Union in North American sports accountable to who they represent. I support players up to the line of what they agreed too. Past that I’m for the team on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

 

[OnMyOwn]

Negotiate a better CBA. Hold arguably the worst Players Union in North American sports accountable to who they represent. I support players up to the line of what they agreed too. Past that I’m for the team on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

I’m in a similar boat. I get what Jiggy is saying, but ultimately they know the risk/reward of playing this sport from the time they’re 7 until they can’t do it anymore. CTE is well known, but chasing the money outweighs those risks for these guys. Especially where a lot of them come from. Owners will always do what’s best for business.

Get a better CBA if you don’t want cut at the drop of a hat, like what happened to L. Murray a day before he was gonna get like 3 mil from the Saints.

 

[MrBrightside]

I have no problems with the players getting as much money as they can. The idea that the owners are bad guys for not volunteering to pay money they aren't required to pay under the CBA or under the contracts between the parties is a really odd notion, however.

 

[ImporterExporter]

All the players speaking publicly on this issue is just another reason I loathe Mike Tomlin. He has no control over the locker room. Never did. Zero interest in having his team solely focused on football. Wash, rinse, repeat. He's a rah-rah, chest thumping, 10 dollar word, charlatan. All words, no action.

Players aren't agents and they aren't front office personnel. STFU.

You don't like the parameters as it pertains to contracts? Negotiate a better f***ing deal with the owners.

I also love people starting to throw the "Steelers are being cheap again" bullshit narrative out there. As if the Steelers haven't spent to the cap (max) every f***ing year since the cap was a thing. What lazy, inept, gibberish.

It's about principle and operating within the confines of a system that TJ Watt and every other player signed up for.

 

[SomeDude]

I have no problems with the players getting as much money as they can. The idea that the owners are bad guys for not volunteering to pay money they aren't required to pay under the CBA or under the contracts between the parties is a really odd notion, however.

This and...if you're a Steelers fan....wouldn't you want the team to maximize cap space to be able to field the best possible team? They should slap the tag on Watt for 2 years as they are allowed to do. It would be best for the team. Would you rather the Steelers be able to upgrade a position, or TJ Watt get a 20 ft longer boat?

If/when the players union ever does get a spine and negotiates fully guaranteed contracts, the total amount offered to them is also going to be reduced.