The Pittsburgh Penguins: last in the *East* after *9* games.

Headshot77

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They aren't really injured. Just a combination of mediocre goaltending and horrifically inadequate depth. Dubas did a good job of getting a buckshot worth of "guys" but none of them seem to be sticking (besides Karlsson, who is exactly as advertised and a treat to watch).

Has the bottom finally fallen out on this team?

Will Mike Sullivan finally feel some heat from management?

Is it too early in the season and everyone is over reacting?
 

Chips

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At first, I was very, VERY hopeful when I heard Dubas was coming to Pittsburgh.

Then, I was DEVASTATED when one of his first move was to resign Jarry (who am sure is a nice guy).

Now, now I look at him with sadness rather than hope.

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day season is ruined.
What all goalies were available this summer?
 

EbonyRaptor

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Is the Crosby/Malkin/Letang era coming to an end? I think the same question can be asked of the Ovechkin/Backstrom era. Boston seems to be weathering the loss of Bergeron/Krejci but we'll see if they can it going all season and for how many more seasons.

As a Hawks fan - it was painful to watch the team get old and fall apart and it took years for mgmt to acknowledge the Toews/Kane era was over and to finally do what was necessary to rebuild. How many more years will it take for the Hawks to become legitimate Cup contenders again - 5 years or 10 years or never? Before the 2010 Cup it had been 49 years since winning the Cup in 1961.
 

BB88

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Dubas ain't a miracle worker lol. Some pen fans thought he was their saviour.

He’s got to be the Gm who gets most excuses in the league. He got Torontos golden core and got zero results with it.

What I’d love to hear from him would be how were these summer moves made for longterm as well. His big speach was we want to compete now but also build for the future

Pens are in for a rough 8-10 years
 

KillerMillerTime

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Is the Crosby/Malkin/Letang era coming to an end? I think the same question can be asked of the Ovechkin/Backstrom era. Boston seems to be weathering the loss of Bergeron/Krejci but we'll see if they can it going all season and for how many more seasons.

As a Hawks fan - it was painful to watch the team get old and fall apart and it took years for mgmt to acknowledge the Toews/Kane era was over and to finally do what was necessary to rebuild. How many more years will it take for the Hawks to become legitimate Cup contenders again - 5 years or 10 years or never? Before the 2010 Cup it had been 49 years since winning the Cup in 1961.

Better chance Boston remains a PO Team post #37 this year because they have the talent in Goal and on D to make their commitment to team wide D a game-to-game premium and enough offense from #88,63 and #74 on the wings.
 
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AvroArrow

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Dubas fan club has been dead silent lol. Entire core is over 35, didn't make any sense to try and win again with this team. Adding Karlsson lol if only someone told em that he's one of the worst players in his own end.

Sid and Geno are nearing the end of their career, they've won everything. They should've been looking to rebuild, these guys can't carry their team to a cup at this stage but they could play a huge part in helping another team with a younger core take that next step to win a cup. Don't understand what Dubas was thinking, they should sell off by the deadline and prepare for the future. Sid can still bring in a massive haul but trading for Karlsson is just brutal.
 

Dipsy Doodle

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Lots of people pronouncing the end of Crosby/Malkin and Dubas a dud after 6 whole games. Fruit fly logic.

Larkin finishing 2nd in the Art Ross race this year too?

There is no "rebuilding" with Crosby/Malkin/Letang. It's unheard of in NA pro sports to have 3 superstars play together that long, and they're the core of the most successful team of their era. You see it through to the end and give them every opportunity to compete. The alternative is what...sell them off for a bunch of middling 1st rounders to hopefully get a core half as good in 10 years? Get real.
 

gtrower

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That core has 22 points in 6 games. How anyone can blame anything on them being ''too old'' is perplexing. You basically have to be clinically braindead to reach that conclusion.

Looks like they’ve been productive offensively yet still somehow a collective -3 (assuming you’re talking about Malkin Crosby Letang Karlsson). Not much PP production yet for those 4 so far so it would appear that they’re hemorrhaging goals the other way as well.

Regardless, way too early to draw conclusions either direction.
 

The Gr8 Dane

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They stink , but everybody had them as a sneak into the playoffs type of team so they can still recover , plenty of time

Dubas fan club has been dead silent lol. Entire core is over 35, didn't make any sense to try and win again with this team. Adding Karlsson lol if only someone told em that he's one of the worst players in his own end.

Sid and Geno are nearing the end of their career, they've won everything. They should've been looking to rebuild, these guys can't carry their team to a cup at this stage but they could play a huge part in helping another team with a younger core take that next step to win a cup. Don't understand what Dubas was thinking, they should sell off by the deadline and prepare for the future. Sid can still bring in a massive haul but trading for Karlsson is just brutal.
Rebuilding was not an option , Dubas has bosses too you know
 

SomeDude

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What all goalies were available this summer?
Several others who were not the main reason the team failed the last 3 playoff appearances. Either by horrendous play or not being available because they can’t be trusted to stay healthy at the most important part of the season.

This is such a tired response. You don’t handcuff yourself to a goalie that has done nothing but let you down every time they’ve had the opportunity. Try literally anyone else. Anyone. Crappy goalie? Ok, sign them to a cheap one year deal and use the cap flexibility to improve the team in front of them. Try something other than the same thing that has proven doesn’t work.
 

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