Other Sports: The Philadelphia Seventy Sixers 23-24 Season Thread: Punt, Pass, Or Kick? Post Trade Deadline
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JojoTheWhale
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Brother, this is exactly the shit I mean. You're quoting Points and Rebounds per game like this is 1996. That should be an internal sign that you're throwing shit at the wall. There is a 0% chance you saw Scottie Pippen Jr in high school enough times to have meaningful expectations for his college career.
I'm trying to tell you that the guy I posted and the other hardcores watch more of just high school and AAU basketball than you and I watch hockey combined. Here's the top of his first 2024 big board. That's from January 3rd 2023. These kids are still not close to finished with their senior high school seasons.
Here's April 2023. Tiers are in alphabetical order.
These are not boards from ESPN. They're not from someone trying to sell hyped up bullshit. It's an extremely knowledgeable basketball scout giving you his honest opinions. So he was a mid-first rounder in a generally poor draft class coming into the year, then he fell to the end of round 2 after he had major health problems exactly because no one thinks he's a sure fire NBA player. But he was worth a shot when the stakes were super low. I'm not sure what about this breaks people's brains.
Flybynite
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I did not scout Bronny James. I did not watch more than 2 full games he played that were broadcast. What I saw him do athletically at his size I did not see him as warranting any kind of '1st round' potential. So him going in the 2nd round. I got no issues with. I just don't think he's going to develop into an NBA starter.
What that one person's ranking shows me is that A LOT OF those guys ranked with Bronny, I don't actually think turn into future NBA starters either. Must have been a pretty damn awful HS graduating class. (which probably explains why so many European players went in the top of the draft as opposed to 1 and done from that HS graduating class)
What that one person's ranking shows me is that A LOT OF those guys ranked with Bronny, I don't actually think turn into future NBA starters either. Must have been a pretty damn awful HS graduating class. (which probably explains why so many European players went in the top of the draft as opposed to 1 and done from that HS graduating class)
Hollywood Cannon
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It's because his last name is James. Everyone has clawed for reasons to shit on a top 3 player of all time for the last 2 decades. Naturally, all those people are frothing at the mouth at the idea of his son ever contributing anything at allBrother, this is exactly the shit I mean. You're quoting Points and Rebounds per game like this is 1996. That should be an internal sign that you're throwing shit at the wall. There is a 0% chance you saw Scottie Pippen Jr in high school enough times to have meaningful expectations for his college career.
I'm trying to tell you that the guy I posted and the other hardcores watch more of just high school and AAU basketball than you and I watch hockey combined. Here's the top of his first 2024 big board. That's from January 3rd 2023. These kids are still not close to finished with their senior high school seasons.
Here's April 2023. Tiers are in alphabetical order.
These are not boards from ESPN. They're not from someone trying to sell hyped up bullshit. It's an extremely knowledgeable basketball scout giving you his honest opinions. So he was a mid-first rounder in a generally poor draft class coming into the year, then he fell to the end of round 2 after he had major health problems exactly because no one thinks he's a sure fire NBA player. But he was worth a shot when the stakes were super low. I'm not sure what about this breaks people's brains.
It's not the player himself, it's the name. And most importantly, an extension of his dad. It's so f***ing weird
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FLYguy3911
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I heard the SIxers LOVE that draft.
Best crop of 11 year olds in ages.
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Magua
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Chinatown88
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Tripod
I hate this team
You guys can take down the Celtics. Morey came thru this offseason.
JojoTheWhale
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Lowry is still important. Or if not him, someone to be on the ball for the non-Maxey minutes.
I assume KJ Martin gets kept with an inflated one year salary for an in-season trade.
Then one Marcus Morris archetype vet min who is playable defensively even if you give up some shooting and I’m calling this one hell of an offseason.
I assume KJ Martin gets kept with an inflated one year salary for an in-season trade.
Then one Marcus Morris archetype vet min who is playable defensively even if you give up some shooting and I’m calling this one hell of an offseason.
FLYguy3911
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At least this cap casualty/roster decision is easier to stomach and is more reasonable than Joe or Springer. Morey gonna Morey with those young guys.
Can't argue with PG and Martin though. 2 nice pickups...if you want to classify PG as a "nice pickup" lol. Move of the decade is more like it
Can't argue with PG and Martin though. 2 nice pickups...if you want to classify PG as a "nice pickup" lol. Move of the decade is more like it
FLYguy3911
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Joe, yes. But they did at least get a 2nd for Springer, and the reality is that trading him and getting his contract off the books was part of the strategy to set up for this offseason, which we all seem to be pretty happy with.
So he turned down longer term and higher AAV to sign with the Sixers? Can’t say I saw that coming.
JojoTheWhale
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His agent misread the market. He started out asking for 15 per. Then the money dried up.
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That's an unbelievable contract for a guy that I thought they priced themselves out of getting.
*sigh* ok fine... while i am still skeptical of the PG signing and think that years 3 and 4 of that contract could be potentially nightmarish... i'll concede that it was still a swing-for-the-fences move. And almost everything else they did this offseason ive either liked or loved. Sucks for Bball Paul though, unfortunately im not surprised that they werent able to trade him. Hoping he doesnt go to the Knicks or Celtics, i still wanna root for him.
*sigh* ok fine... while i am still skeptical of the PG signing and think that years 3 and 4 of that contract could be potentially nightmarish... i'll concede that it was still a swing-for-the-fences move. And almost everything else they did this offseason ive either liked or loved. Sucks for Bball Paul though, unfortunately im not surprised that they werent able to trade him. Hoping he doesnt go to the Knicks or Celtics, i still wanna root for him.
Flybynite
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Yea. The second apron and hard-capping rules make it very difficult. If a team is above the cap (or ends up above the cap) from executing a sign & trade that team then immediately becomes hard-capped at the 1st apron.
Teams that are at the 1st apron are not allowed to execute sign & trades so the teams already there are out of the running.
There were not many teams with significant cap space this off-season. Caleb Martin's agent could have tried to sign a full MLE with teams over the cap, but I think his agent likely kept trying to find a higher salary (I think MLE max this year was around 12m), but there are also restrictions on that. A team over the cap who uses the full MLE gets hard-capped and then can't exceed the 1st apron in salary during the entire year)
I think teams are being a lot more cautious of getting hard-capped or pushed about one of the aprons for additions they don't see as 'worth it enough'
Sixers waived Paul Reed and signed Martin into regular cap space.
Embiid
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Hinkie who?....Morey came through.
Have some concerns still mostly related to Embiid and PG's injury history but Morey did what he had to do this offseason. Just will try to temper my expectations but on paper should be able to challenge Boston and New York.
Have some concerns still mostly related to Embiid and PG's injury history but Morey did what he had to do this offseason. Just will try to temper my expectations but on paper should be able to challenge Boston and New York.
JojoTheWhale
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Add another reasonable vet min name to the stack.
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